[1.12.x][WIP] Restock Recolour [50.88%]

[MrShelter]

Somebody botted 1100 downloads on Spacedock, I don't know why and for what, but just subtract 1100 downloads from download number

[Squeaky]

11 hours ago, MrShelter said:

Somebody botted 1100 downloads on Spacedock, I don't know why and for what, but just subtract 1100 downloads from download number

If i download [WIP] Restock Recolour [50%]  twice I should have 100% right?

I think its site-wide, I uploaded a navball texture the other day that jumped up by 1k downloads randomly.

(Which personally I think is understandable as its a simply gawjus looking navball )

 

Congrats on 50% by the way! Love the work so far, thank you!

[RileyHef]

I haven't had time to grab a screenshot, but I noticed that the blue windows for command pods/other parts look extremely "flat" when using the recolour textures. For at least some parts it appears there is no reflection at all, like the Mk1-3 pod. With the addition of deferred rendering this is even more obvious. I'm unsure if this is intentional or not but it doesn't mesh well with other recolours like @ZZetho's Recolour Collection library for Near Future Spacecraft. I really enjoy the dramatic shine that is offered in those NF parts and would love to have them match with restock. Here's another mod which does the same for stock parts (obviously not compatible, but the images show just how big of a difference this can  make).

Anyways, I'd love to have both reflective windows and recoloured parts. If you plan to add this, fantastic! If not I'd be really interested to se know any tips/resources which would be helpful for me to do this myself. Again, haven't had time to dive into this yet but I'm hoping it is not too complex of an addition.

Great work, btw! This is my dream mod come true to finally start using TURD properly and the results so far have been AMAZING. Keep it up!

[Bobbejans]

congrats on 50%

[MrShelter]

2 hours ago, RileyHef said:

I haven't had time to grab a screenshot, but I noticed that the blue windows for command pods/other parts look extremely "flat" when using the recolour textures. For at least some parts it appears there is no reflection at all, like the Mk1-3 pod. With the addition of deferred rendering this is even more obvious. I'm unsure if this is intentional or not but it doesn't mesh well with other recolours like @ZZetho's Recolour Collection library for Near Future Spacecraft. I really enjoy the dramatic shine that is offered in those NF parts and would love to have them match with restock. Here's another mod which does the same for stock parts (obviously not compatible, but the images show just how big of a difference this can  make).

Anyways, I'd love to have both reflective windows and recoloured parts. If you plan to add this, fantastic! If not I'd be really interested to se know any tips/resources which would be helpful for me to do this myself. Again, haven't had time to dive into this yet but I'm hoping it is not too complex of an addition.

Great work, btw! This is my dream mod come true to finally start using TURD properly and the results so far have been AMAZING. Keep it up!

I might not exactly understand what you meant

So did you mean if windows are not as shiny as restock version(aka you turned on recolour and windows are not shiny anymore), or you meant windows are not as other recolours(aka other recolours' windows appear shinier than others)

[RileyHef]

2 hours ago, MrShelter said:

I might not exactly understand what you meant

So did you mean if windows are not as shiny as restock version(aka you turned on recolour and windows are not shiny anymore), or you meant windows are not as other recolours(aka other recolours' windows appear shinier than others)

Both! 

Here is an example between a regular restock part and the same part with Restock Recoloured. There is a pretty clear reflection of the sun on the regular part window that is especially noticeable when moving the camera around. For the Recoloured part this is never the case for any part regardless of where the light source/camera is.

Stock/Restock often have inconsistent reflections, so some parts like the Mk1-3 pod are less obvious to notice than others, but all of the Restock Recolours I've used so far seem to have a dark, completely flat look. (I feel like the Cupola would be another great example but for some reason I can't get the recolour to work).

 

Here is another comparison between  the reflection of stock TURD parts, other major recolour mods like ZZetho's, and Restock Recolour. Dark and flat, even when the window is directly facing the light source.

Noting again that this is with deferred rendering installed.

[MrShelter]

1 minute ago, RileyHef said:

Both! 

Here is an example between a regular restock part and the same part with Restock Recoloured. There is a pretty clear reflection of the sun on the regular part window that is especially noticeable when moving the camera around. For the Recoloured part this is never the case for any part regardless of where the light source/camera is.

Stock/Restock often have inconsistent reflections, so some parts like the Mk1-3 pod are less obvious to notice than others, but all of the Restock Recolours I've used so far seem to have a dark, completely flat look. (I feel like the Cupola would be another great example but for some reason I can't get the recolour to work).

 

Here is another comparison between  the reflection of stock TURD parts, other major recolour mods like ZZetho's, and Restock Recolour. Dark and flat, even when the window is directly facing the light source.

Noting again that this is with deferred rendering installed.

I'll try to see what's wrong 

Also, why isn't Cupola working for you?

[MrShelter]

16 minutes ago, RileyHef said:

Both! 

Here is an example between a regular restock part and the same part with Restock Recoloured. There is a pretty clear reflection of the sun on the regular part window that is especially noticeable when moving the camera around. For the Recoloured part this is never the case for any part regardless of where the light source/camera is.

Stock/Restock often have inconsistent reflections, so some parts like the Mk1-3 pod are less obvious to notice than others, but all of the Restock Recolours I've used so far seem to have a dark, completely flat look. (I feel like the Cupola would be another great example but for some reason I can't get the recolour to work).

 

Here is another comparison between  the reflection of stock TURD parts, other major recolour mods like ZZetho's, and Restock Recolour. Dark and flat, even when the window is directly facing the light source.

Noting again that this is with deferred rendering installed.

If I take a wild guess I would say its something with metallic gloss map, which accidentally overrides window shininess, and can be fixed with individual spec maps

Basically copy image, erase window fully from it, hopefully no issues

[RileyHef]

22 minutes ago, MrShelter said:

Also, why isn't Cupola working for you?

I think I figured it out. SSPR reworks the part, which takes priority over the Restock version when both are installed. I got the part recolour to work on a barebones modded install  w/o SSPR so no issue with the mod itself (except I did confirm the same window issue with this part too. It's even noticeable without deferred, just not nearly as dramatic).

19 minutes ago, MrShelter said:

If I take a wild guess I would say its something with metallic gloss map, which accidentally overrides window shininess, and can be fixed with individual spec maps

Basically copy image, erase window fully from it, hopefully no issues

Crossing my fingers! If it does end up being an easy fix then I also hope that you and the team can tune the window reflection levels to make a better match similar to TURD and other major recolours. Probably not high priority, but definitely something that will help with making parts more appear more cohesive.

[ZZetho]

24 minutes ago, MrShelter said:

I would say its something with metallic gloss map

It is, in the metallic gloss map, make the windows a dark-ish grey for a nice shine.

[MrShelter]

1 hour ago, ZZetho said:

It is, in the metallic gloss map, make the windows a dark-ish grey for a nice shine.

Hey thanks, working really nice! 

[theonegalen]

quite excited here

[alpine488]

Dude I have been waiting for this for forever. Lifesaver

[Nyxilo]

Hey @MrShelter, just remembered that someone already did a few configs for TURD / Restock (including that goddamn Small Nose Cone)
I don't think they are aware of your new initiative to make configs for Restock. Maybe they could be merged in your configs ? 
 

  As far as I know there is no conflict between both sources of configs - and it allows me to recolour most of the parts I use (said, all the aero ones  )

On 8/10/2024 at 7:38 PM, PyjackMeat said:

I guess the Restock patch someone is making has been dropped.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QfC-Y3TPWNng8tcbedgmr-nzblM8mQbE/view?usp=drive_link
Just a few Restock parts I did before hitting a wall.

Thanks for your amazing work !

Edited Sunday at 02:32 PM by Nyxilo
Forum crash while typing :/

[Nyxilo]

Small other issue I found, the Aerodynamic Nose Cone - Kerbal Space Program Wiki when switched over to "paint" resets back to Restock's white config (which I would guess is the second in the slider, so in the same place as "paint" ?)
Changing back to stock color then paint again seems to solve the issue, but it is quite inconsistent. Replacing the part does work, tho.