Taverius Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Got a few more models we're hoping to get ready, and it always depends on where DYJ is off to for work, but hopefully? P.S. I also clamped scaling so you cant make hourglass wings, fixed a bug that allowed some height offsets to creep in when moving the tip, redid the cost support to scale properly, fixed a whole number of wrong values that gave incorrect lift and CoL, and added support for a FAR 0.14.2 feature. Edited September 27, 2014 by Taverius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boontze Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 There is a bug where when I use a vertical rudder it tips my center of lift off to the side so meaning my plane veers off the runway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirSock Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) @SirSock: I think that's possible, although I don't think FAR supports that kind of distortion - control surfaces are attached at the leading edge, and giving them a sweep doesn't do what you think it does here, so they would behave as if they had not been angled that way.I'll think about it, but once we figure out /how/ to rotate the transforms, its trivial to add tweakable buttons to make a control surface match the leading/trailing sweep of the wing its attached to. Aything manual would likely be via tweakable, as we'd rather not add another mouse command.I don't think changing the characteristics would really matter too much as long as you limit the amount which you can manipulate it into a parallelogram, it's more about making aesthetically pleasing sweeped wings, it would be very very handy for making early jet-fighter style planes and such. Edited September 27, 2014 by SirSock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyHook Posted September 27, 2014 Share Posted September 27, 2014 I'll just leave this here ...https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42665548/KSP/Modeling/Screenshot_248.pnghttps://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42665548/KSP/Modeling/Screenshot_249.png*head explodes* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit Fiddler Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have an issue with the control surfaces. if I make a wing and setup control surfaces on it then I mirror the wing to the other side the control surface does not mirror correctly. it will have the tip and root swapped. thus if I have a control surface where I tweak the tip and root thikness to different values the other wing will have them reversed.Secondly on the P4 wing there is an option to have the "flaps" enabled or disabled. removing them for a spot to put control surfaces is nice, but why not just make this "flap" be a control surface? thus the control surface will automatically be placed correctly and have all the proper scaling etc. to make it match up with the wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordanjay29 Posted September 28, 2014 Share Posted September 28, 2014 I have an issue with the control surfaces. if I make a wing and setup control surfaces on it then I mirror the wing to the other side the control surface does not mirror correctly. it will have the tip and root swapped. thus if I have a control surface where I tweak the tip and root thikness to different values the other wing will have them reversed.I came here to report the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizz Posted September 30, 2014 Share Posted September 30, 2014 I'm having an issue with some of the wings - whenever I select them, I can't attach them to my plane, and when I drop them (put them away to select something else) I get a huge lag spike that lasts anytime between 5-30 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYJ Posted September 30, 2014 Author Share Posted September 30, 2014 I have an issue with the control surfaces. if I make a wing and setup control surfaces on it then I mirror the wing to the other side the control surface does not mirror correctly. it will have the tip and root swapped. thus if I have a control surface where I tweak the tip and root thikness to different values the other wing will have them reversed.Secondly on the P4 wing there is an option to have the "flaps" enabled or disabled. removing them for a spot to put control surfaces is nice, but why not just make this "flap" be a control surface? thus the control surface will automatically be placed correctly and have all the proper scaling etc. to make it match up with the wing.That was my original intention, but Unity doesn't appear to understand that moving parts of a skinnedmeshrenderer independent of it's parent armature is technically possible, I could work around it by making a more complex armature however...I don't think changing the characteristics would really matter too much as long as you limit the amount which you can manipulate it into a parallelogram, it's more about making aesthetically pleasing sweeped wings, it would be very very handy for making early jet-fighter style planes and such.Adding this feature should be very simple, so that's something we might do even if FAR doesn't support it yet. Just like we added wing thickness even though it currently does nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falken Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 With wing thickness symmetry I always just use the strip symmetry mod and matched them up.Really looking forward to when pwings is compatible with NEAR. I cannot live without my pWings, so I'm still using stock aero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadicon Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 Thanks again for the awesome mod! Not sure how I would make large scale space planes without it!Funny enough, the disappearing wings bug is what has been bothering me lately. Also the inability to adjust the trailing edge to not taper (tapering means it doesn't line up with control surfaces). Both just aesthetics far as I can tell, but yeah xD. Will be happy with any added features, bugfixes or improvements though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smunisto Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The trailing edge, I asked about it a long time ago, and was told that's an inherent bug thing in the way the wings are generated.Both this dreadicon mentioned bother me a bit too, but I live with it. Disappearing wings only bother you in SPH anyways, the trailing edge is the one thing that's kinda "off" about the mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreadicon Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 The trailing edge, I asked about it a long time ago, and was told that's an inherent bug thing in the way the wings are generated.Both this dreadicon mentioned bother me a bit too, but I live with it. Disappearing wings only bother you in SPH anyways, the trailing edge is the one thing that's kinda "off" about the mod.Agreed; I mostly come across the disappearing wings because I build giant space planes (3.75m body, triple-SABRE engine craft. Launches at least 16t into orbit in a 20m x 4m x 2.5m cargo bay). They typically have 4-8 drop tanks, and can achieve circular orbits of about 300km, depending on payload weight.Shame about the trailing edges; oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nli2work Posted October 6, 2014 Share Posted October 6, 2014 (edited) The trailing edge, I asked about it a long time ago, and was told that's an inherent bug thing in the way the wings are generated.Both this dreadicon mentioned bother me a bit too, but I live with it. Disappearing wings only bother you in SPH anyways, the trailing edge is the one thing that's kinda "off" about the mod.the disappearing wings has to do with the way Unity culls geometry when it is out of the camera view. Checking the "Update When Offscreen" setting in mesh renderer component will prevent the wing from disappearing when it is close to edge of screen in some situations. Larger wings are more prone to this than smaller wings. maybe the setting can be forced on by pWing. Edited October 6, 2014 by nli2work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYJ Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 the disappearing wings has to do with the way Unity culls geometry when it is out of the camera view. Checking the "Update When Offscreen" setting in mesh renderer component will prevent the wing from disappearing when it is close to edge of screen in some situations. Larger wings are more prone to this than smaller wings. maybe the setting can be forced on by pWing.Yepp, that seems to work. Should be in the next update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseit Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Is anyone having an issue with 0.25 where using "G" won't let you change wing length? Love the mod BTW. Makes using spaceplanes 10000000000000x more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 The thread title says this mod is for .24. That might have something to do with your issues running it on not-.24. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nli2work Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Is anyone having an issue with 0.25 where using "G" won't let you change wing length? Love the mod BTW. Makes using spaceplanes 10000000000000x more enjoyable.yea same here. hopefully everything will be good when pWing is updated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseit Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) I was hoping someone had a quick fix while we waited for an update Edited October 8, 2014 by cheeseit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AetherGoddess Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I was hoping someone had a quick fix while we waited for an updatepeople are working as hard as they can. it'll be fine soon. clear your mind and let it come to you. do not seek the updates. simply be, and the updates will be with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheeseit Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 I'm just playing around making bombers and trying to make a guided tomahawk like missile It's no rush just seeing if any one else had the issue as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYJ Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Moving the tipchord actually still works, it's just 50 times slower. Something changed in how mousespeed works in .25. The indev version works fine but I hoped we would be able to finish the SP+ style assets in time for the release, but even if we don't get that done I'll push out an update later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSSPutnik Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 Thanks DYJ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DYJ Posted October 8, 2014 Author Share Posted October 8, 2014 Updated for .25 support, added NEAR and a bunch of other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadpangod3 Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 yay!*battles FAR for the skies again*thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamyesque Posted October 8, 2014 Share Posted October 8, 2014 *ticks off another item on the MUST HAVE TO PLAY .25 list* Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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