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Would you cheat death?

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recon14193

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Consciousness is controlled by the frontal lobe of your brain. We already know we can replicate the brain. That means in the process we would replicate the portion of the brain that enables consciousness. So linking your brain to that artificial brain would pretty much make you aware of both instances at the same time. You would be aware of yourself in your body, and in the machine. Then you simply just disconnect the body, and you are finished. It's sort of like setting up hard drives in a raid format.

Consciousness really is only a form of memory the way I see it. As long as you have the memories of being transferred over, you are you and you wouldn't experience the whole death portion of it.

An example of what your talking about could technically happen every time you go to sleep. However, it doesn't mean you are dead lol. The only reason why you are able to say it's you is because you are left in the same place and in the same body. What would happen if you just randomly wake up, with no memories. Are you the same person? Are "you" technically dead since you are no longer aware of yourself in that consciousness. Even if you memories are restored, how do you know, you didn't already die and it's just a copy of yourself, like a restore function of an OS.

This really then gets a bit confusing because you also have to ask, what is death then? Is there even such thing as truly dead? Well I suppose once your body is entirely decomposed, ya lol, you will be as dead as you can possibly be.

So basically your brain, memories, and all that, is 'you'. Copying it, is still 'you'. It's simply just another instance of yourself. However from then on they become a different person because they begin having different newly formed memories. However, as I said earlier, you can get rid of this idea if you raid the 2 together, they both are aware. Hmm .. not sure if anyone watches Naruto here, but a good example would be like the Paths of Pain.

The term "link" though is what I am having trouble on. For me to believe that you cheat death you must be fully assimilated into the computer. If you are not then the computer cheats death not you. I would you to expand on what you mean by "raid the 2 together" I don't exactly understand that. I agree with your sleep example it brings up the greater question of what is us. Our cells all replace in about 5 years I think I saw, so we aren't even the original biomaterial. It makes us ask how do we define or know what is us.

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Brabbit1987

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The term "link" though is what I am having trouble on. For me to believe that you cheat death you must be fully assimilated into the computer. If you are not then the computer cheats death not you. I would you to expand on what you mean by "raid the 2 together" I don't exactly understand that. I agree with your sleep example it brings up the greater question of what is us. Our cells all replace in about 5 years I think I saw, so we aren't even the original biomaterial. It makes us ask how do we define or know what is us.

When you set up drives in a raid format, they act as one even though they are 2 drives. It can also be set up as a back up drive. Both drives are simply a mirror of each other, if one fails, the other is still available. Having the machine brain and you brain set up in some sort of raid format would mean you can be aware of yourself in both instances. If one was to be disconnected, you are still left with the exact memories and all that before that disconnection.

This does mean though you could build an army of yourselves and be aware of each and every single one of them as long as they are connected by some sort of wireless network. It's a scary though, but you essentially would become a god *laughs hysterically and drools with excitement*. Ya I know, I am a bit loopy.

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Actually, in Arizona, there exists a nonprofit facility where you can pay 200k and a membership fee and have yourself frozen, hen revived at a later date, when you die. I plan on hiring this facility.

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Actually, in Arizona, there exists a nonprofit facility where you can pay 200k and a membership fee and have yourself frozen, hen revived at a later date, when you die. I plan on hiring this facility.

200k? Yeah "Nonprofit" :mad:

And did those Geniouses explain how they plan to revive those frozen people?:rolleyes:

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200k? Yeah "Nonprofit" :mad:

And did those Geniouses explain how they plan to revive those frozen people?:rolleyes:

Maybe it's like in Transmetropolitan, where they froze people and just assumed that at some point in the future the technology will appear to revive them, even if it takes much longer than previously thought? Everything's gotta be invented if we just wait long enough, right?

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Maybe it's like in Transmetropolitan, where they froze people and just assumed that at some point in the future the technology will appear to revive them, even if it takes much longer than previously thought? Everything's gotta be invented if we just wait long enough, right?

Right, but the opposite could happen as well, they find out they CAN'T revive them with out adverse effects such as death. It's a very large gamble to be honest. However, if you are about to die, I suppose it is a better to take the risk than not.

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True! Plus in Transmet, it's so far in the future than everyone who gets revived finds everything so weird that they all go crazy, so that would also be a downside...

I always thought that would be an interesting feeling to all of a sudden be thrown far into the future. I wouldn't go crazy, probably would rather enjoy it actually.

Most people would freak out a bit due to losing everyone in their life, that type of thing bother me as well, but I tend to be able to accept it fairly quickly and just get on with my life. Never liked dwelling on things I can't fix.

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NuclearNut

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Yes. There is simply no reason not to. There will always be more to know, more to learn, and more to do. If I could be immortal I know at least five solar systems I am interested in, oh, and then there is the voyager probe and seeing if that meets anything (chances are it will not), oh, and improving the lives of others.

There is really no shortage of things to do if you were immortal.

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Naw.

When my time is up, thats it.

It's the nature of our being. We only can live for so long. Make the best of it, and don't waste what time you have.

Time is the fire in which we burn. Our time is finite. We can cheat death, we can delay it, but in the end, Death will come.

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Storing data in a complex computer that "generate" consciousness is just "making alive" the computer itself and giving it the illusion it was an human before.

But "your life" is related to a bunch of atoms and cells that have the illusion to be "one human" because of complex neuronals process.

So, as a human, you can't cheat your own death. All you can do is trying to "cheat" a computer ^^

At a side note: I don't think the "illusion to being an human before" will last very long: The computers will have plenty of time to think about herselves and their true natures. And maybe one day accept, or reject the datas the humans give them long ago... (or just store it in the "obsolete" folder ^^)

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