ZRM Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Would there be a way to change the cfgs myself to avoid the use of modular fuel?I'd like to know this too. I've got no interest in that mod.Sure, if it's that big a deal I can try to provide two setups - one that is designed for MFS, and one for standard fuel, though this will probably require changes to the engine properties to balance the gameplay, and the practical range and the payload limit of each version of the shuttle will probably differ. Don't expect a stock-tailored version in the first release though. In the mean time editing the configs should suffice.Also, be aware that a stock-fueled EFT will contain very little fuel for its size - probably around that found in the stock Jumbo 64 tanks, otherwise it would be too heavy to launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sapphire Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Also, be aware that a stock-fueled EFT will contain very little fuel for its size - probably around that found in the stock Jumbo 64 tanks, otherwise it would be too heavy to launch.I don't mind. As long as it flies like a dream and looks awesome, realism can take a flying leap! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostLabs Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Looking sharp! Did I mention that this is awesome? Well it is ya know... Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnistNAMEERF Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 This is awesome. Keep up the great work, ZRM and Helldiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 Ok. That looks ready to play with! Can we have? Please?That's a negative.As ZRM said, we still have a host of bugs and parts of the project that aren't complete. For example we're still fleshing out the MFDs.Once all of that is complete, I'm going to do a texture/art study with the model in game. So far based on shots I've seen, I don't see anything incorrect. But again I have to view it in game to make sure all parts are functioning the way we intended, they are displaying the way I intended, and are hassle and bug free. I never release incomplete work.Most of any that would probably be texture swaps, nothing too intense or requiring programming.Once all of that is out of the way, and we're both satisfied, I'll give ZRM the green flag to proceed with packaging it and putting it up. We'll then make a post on the released mods forum and we'll go from there.Right now the big hurdle for me are the MFD artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skykooler Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Sure, if it's that big a deal I can try to provide two setups - one that is designed for MFS, and one for standard fuel, though this will probably require changes to the engine properties to balance the gameplay, and the practical range and the payload limit of each version of the shuttle will probably differ. Don't expect a stock-tailored version in the first release though. In the mean time editing the configs should suffice.Also, be aware that a stock-fueled EFT will contain very little fuel for its size - probably around that found in the stock Jumbo 64 tanks, otherwise it would be too heavy to launch.I would be interested in this too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisarmingBaton5 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I think I might enjoy editing the cfgs myself in the first version, It will feel like I actually have to test the lifter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zakkpaz Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 have you considered making an EDO-pallet or Spacelab part?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_Duration_Orbiterhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spacelab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tygoo7 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Its so close I can taste it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTKC Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Why don't you use custom resources instead of MFS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRM Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 As ZRM said, we still have a host of bugs and parts of the project that aren't complete. For example we're still fleshing out the MFDs.I'd just like to clarify that AFAIK there is not much in the way of bugs right now other than those present in KSP already that have manifested themselves due to the boundaries the project is pushing.As helldiver said, the main focus right now is on the MFDs, specifically all of the texture assets helldiver needs to produce for each display mode. I have been explaining the way all the textures are composited with masks.Once I get the new LRBs working correctly I will be focussing on adding the secondary functionality to the cockpit interior, including clickable switches and buttons, the other two Kerbals and the click-to-get-a-better-view windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sochin Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Why not release the project without the internals to start with then add them after. I for one do not use internals that often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRM Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Why not release the project without the internals to start with then add them after. I for one do not use internals that often.The point is that after you see these internals, with the electronic glass cockpit, you will be using them nearly all the time, as it will hopefully be more informative than the navball and the map view for most situations.If we release early that would just slow down the development of the final features, as we would then have to spend time on supporting the release. Besides, neither I nor Helldiver like releasing something not quite done.Please can everyone stop asking us to release this early. We will release it in due course, when it's ready, not a moment before.Edit: By "everyone", I really mean the few people that have asked this. Most of you have been great support, thanks for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnistNAMEERF Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 The point is that after you see these internals, with the electronic glass cockpit, you will be using them nearly all the time, as it will hopefully be more informative than the navball and the map view for most situations.If we release early that would just slow down the development of the final features, as we would then have to spend time on supporting the release. Besides, neither I nor Helldiver like releasing something not quite done.Please can everyone stop asking us to release this early. We will release it in due course, when it's ready, not a moment before.Edit: By "everyone", I really mean the few people that have asked this. Most of you have been great support, thanks for that.Agreed. Also, I might add: this project is definitely worth the wait. We all look forward to flying it once it's released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirkut Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm so glad you guys are NOT releasing it early. The work you guys are doing is raising the bar and I want it to be lifted as high as possible. My only suggestion is to ignore the questions about releasing it soon or when it will be released. Clearly some people aren't reading what you guys have said countless times before in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRM Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Lobal's a bit too happy with the view (well, either that or deranged). Matcott doesn't feel the same way. Perhaps he's scared of Lobal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I'm feeling like Lobal, really happy with the view, and probably a bit deranged as well. Take your time guys. It looks outstanding so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tw1 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Lobal's a bit too happy with the view (well, either that or deranged). Matcott doesn't feel the same way. Perhaps he's scared of Lobal.If only the rep system was working! That is an amazing shot and caption. I'd be a little scared of Lobal too, but maybe he's just enjoying the amazing looking control panel ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dizzysaurus Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I can only imagine the storm of posts on reddit and the main addon forum when this gets released. It's looking amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRM Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) Bill wishes he didn't have a window seat.Also, now with interior lighting.Edit: Since that screenshot I have now improved the colour temperature of the lighting to match the actual lights. Edited September 6, 2013 by ZRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave7 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 I hope you modeled a barf bag for Bill, looks like he may need one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) What lighting solution did you use in these shots?-Did you use an actual light?Because that looks perfect.I hope you modeled a barf bag for Bill, looks like he may need one.Do you see the orange/red medical bag behind the PIC's headrest? That contains multiple barf bags Edited September 6, 2013 by helldiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirkut Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 What I find interesting is the suits have KSP in reverse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZRM Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 (edited) What lighting solution did you use in these shots?-Did you use an actual light?Because that looks perfect.Uh, not just one actual light, 16 unshadowed spotlights to be precise. I can probably get away with half that number or less. I currently have 4 lights per ceiling light panel. One or two per panel may suffice. I added 4 lights because previously I was hopeful that I could get shadows enabled and do a high quality screenshot or two, but unfortunately Unity doesn't support shadowing on anything other than directional lights in a forward renderer, which is mad.What I find interesting is the suits have KSP in reverse...That is very strange, though for all I know this is the case in other IVA cockpits. Yet another KSP bug. Edited September 6, 2013 by ZRM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share Posted September 6, 2013 That is very strange, though for all I know this is the case in other IVA cockpits. Yet another KSP bug.The artist didn't properly mirror his texture. If I could get the originals plus an OBJ I could probably fix it in a matter of seconds. Of course that could probably only be done by Squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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