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Destroyed another space station by hitting Shift instead of Alt


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Does this happen to anybody else?

2+ decades of using Windows has taught me, at an instinctual level, that when you want to select multiple things you hold down SHIFT. So I get docked with my space station, want to transfer fuel, click one tank, hold down shift to click the other, watch my space station rip itself to shreds, and THEN realize that what I did was throttle up my engines.

And of course I didn't hit F5 at any point over the past hour.

Sorry, I'm just ranting. I know I should be saving more often but MAN it annoys me when the single most common "select all" key in the universe is bound with the only key that will instantly destroy my station.

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I've destroyed a station by hitting space before. Had a probe with SRB's attatched to it docked (needed something to balance the load on the last station part so built an experimental probe in), However I have never throttled up enough to rip a station apart. Hell even my probe with the SRB's didn't really do much damage, just altered the orbit enough to set my station on a collision course... It did however manage to rip off the main docking ports from the rest of the station.

That said I remapped my throttle controls to my mouse. Button 4 = up button 5 = down button 6 = all stop.

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For whatever reason, Windows has me more wired to press left Ctrl to select multiple objects (I know they both work slightly differently, but even in situations where shift will help me select a whole chunk of files, I press Ctrl and select them individually). But Ctrl luckily isn't as destructive because all it does is decrease throttle :P

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My head appears able to cope with Shift for select outside of the game and Alt to select tanks for fuel transfer. What my head cannot grasp is Shift within the game to zoom the camera in the VAB and Shift during flight or after landing to operate the throttle. In the worst case I'd just finished connecting up the units of my little Mun base using KAS, swinging the camera around to admire my work and... you guessed it, zooming in for a closer look. Engines roar, cables strain to take up the load and the whole base sets off to explore the adjacent crater. Explosions were pretty at least.

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I only did this once, and the station bent like a bannana with two different craft docked, I thought it was going to snap in half but it survived. The only station I actually lost, I spent several hours on it docking lots of parts, and stupidly pressed the end flight button. It was like a punch in the guts when I realised what I had just done, the nearest quicksave was right at the beginning! All that time gone in one unthinking mouse click. ;.;

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Does this happen to anybody else?

2+ decades of using Windows has taught me, at an instinctual level, that when you want to select multiple things you hold down SHIFT. So I get docked with my space station, want to transfer fuel, click one tank, hold down shift to click the other, watch my space station rip itself to shreds, and THEN realize that what I did was throttle up my engines.

And of course I didn't hit F5 at any point over the past hour.

Sorry, I'm just ranting. I know I should be saving more often but MAN it annoys me when the single most common "select all" key in the universe is bound with the only key that will instantly destroy my station.

Remember that 'X' cuts the throttle down to zero.

Also, (shameless plug) check out my Fuel Balancer mod for transferring fuel around: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/showthread.php/25823 :D

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Does this happen to anybody else?

2+ decades of using Windows has taught me, at an instinctual level, that when you want to select multiple things you hold down SHIFT. So I get docked with my space station, want to transfer fuel, click one tank, hold down shift to click the other, watch my space station rip itself to shreds, and THEN realize that what I did was throttle up my engines.

And of course I didn't hit F5 at any point over the past hour.

Sorry, I'm just ranting. I know I should be saving more often but MAN it annoys me when the single most common "select all" key in the universe is bound with the only key that will instantly destroy my station.

You can also right click on your engines and manually shut them off. That way, throttling up or down does absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if there's a hotkey for that, I just learned how to do that last night, after shift+tabbing to open my steam overlay led to some sticky situations :confused:

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Only time I've been accidentaly throtteling was the first time I fired up KSP through steam.

Shift+tab did indeed bring up the overlay thingy, and by the time I got out of there, my rocket was way off course.

Now I usually just pause, or enter the docking mode with RCS dissabled.

Oh, and shutting down any engines connected (in any way) to a station, or lander, is something I try to do as soon as the docking/landing is successfully completed.

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You can also right click on your engines and manually shut them off. That way, throttling up or down does absolutely nothing. I'm not sure if there's a hotkey for that, I just learned how to do that last night, after shift+tabbing to open my steam overlay led to some sticky situations :confused:

Action Groups are your friend. You can set up an action group to toggle engines on and off and also gimballing (ie turn steering on and off). Would be nice for some indication of whether the engine is on or off though... Sometimes when you hit action group buttons they ignore the first press.

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For whatever reason, Windows has me more wired to press left Ctrl to select multiple objects (I know they both work slightly differently, but even in situations where shift will help me select a whole chunk of files, I press Ctrl and select them individually). But Ctrl luckily isn't as destructive because all it does is decrease throttle :P

It could be destructive if you're trying to slow down. :P

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I never ever use quicksave, so if i mess up something, i actually learn from it

Odd, I learned how to land on Mun by quicksaving right before my deorbit burn, and then trying to land about a half dozen times. If I had to launch from Kerbin each time I think I'd have given up.

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When switching between docking mode and staging mode for angle of approach during docking has resulted numerous times in me throttling up my main engine, instead of translating up with RCS, which gives the effect of the most impatient and violent docking attempt ever. Maybe that's how that cargo module collided with the MIR station so badly that one time.

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