The Jedi Master Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) Maybe I've just been using it wrong, but every time I use the Skipper engine by Rockomax, I crash. Is it because I'm using it as a side booster engine? Also, even as a 'mid-stage booster', it isn't nearly as useful as the nuke or even the poodle. Anyone else have these complaints? Edited August 8, 2013 by The Jedi Master Wrong part name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnno Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The Jedi Master said: Maybe I've just been using it wrong, but every time I use the Splitter engine by Rockomax, I crash. Is it because I'm using it as a side booster engine? Also, even as a 'mid-stage booster', it isn't nearly as useful as the nuke or even the poodle. Anyone else have these complaints?Splitter engine? What's a Splitter engine? Do you mean Skipper? Skipper's awesome.All engines have their uses, none of them 'stink', it's your usage of them that stinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusTurbo Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 I'm a big fan of the Skipper. It works well in clusters for huge rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupid_chris Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The Skipper is a very good tradeoff between high thrust and reasonable efficiency. It fills the thrust gap between the Mainsail and it's closest competitor the LV-T30 pretty well. I often use it on side booster or to tug relatively heavy things around within Kerbin'S SOI. I don't really have any complaints on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Themohawkninja Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Skipper + 720 units of liquid fuel make an excellent orbital insertion stage for anything <= 20 Tonnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Another endorsement for the Skipper here. It's a very useful engine and I'm glad they added it to the stock choices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jedi Master Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 So... not only am I using it wrong... but I also had the wrong name?! *facepalms self*Oh, well, we all make mistakes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 If you're talking about the Skipper, I use it for booster stages and sometimes for interplanetary transfer vehicles. It's a great compromise engine.My only wish for stock (I've already modded one in, works like a charm) is an engine between the Skipper and the Mainsail, because sometimes the Mainsail is way too much for a central engine where the Skipper is too small. Since I use a laptop I prefer to keep my part counts reasonable; having a ton of LVT-30s isn't always an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MockKnizzle Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 If every time you use the Skipper you crash, then your flying is the problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GusTurbo Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 9 Skippers, working in perfect harmony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jedi Master Posted August 8, 2013 Author Share Posted August 8, 2013 GusTurbo said: -snip-9 Skippers, working in perfect harmony.On the launch stage, no less! What am I doing wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whackjob Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 4 skippers for this lander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sof Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Its useful for the orbital insertion stage. That last kick needed to get into orbit after dropping the first mainsail stage. Poodles and nukes are too weak to achieve orbit before falling back into the atmosphere, and another mainsail would just be too heavy/eat all the fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRV Ron Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 As others have said, the Skipper is a good mid range engine either in Asparagus boosters, or as the second stage. The alternative in between a Skipper and Mainsail using stock parts is mounting an LV-45 in the center of a Rockomax fuel tank followed by four LV-30 mounted near the edge on small cube connectors.If part count is an issue, the Nova Punch mods offer some good mid range multiple engines that count as one part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sof Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 SRV Ron said: If part count is an issue, the Nova Punch mods offer some good mid range multiple engines that count as one part.They are all overpowered though. One of them is 1400KN thrust (100 less than the mainsail) and weighs half as much with better ISP at all altitudes. All the fueltanks are lighter for the amount of fuel they contain too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Sof said: They are all overpowered though. One of them is 1400KN thrust (100 less than the mainsail) and weighs half as much with better ISP at all altitudes.This is exactly why I modded my own, gave it stats exactly halfway between both engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I find it great on my Nova launchers. Rather than a 7th mainsail on the center stage, use a skipper and I can make much better use of the fuel it usually has left (about 80-80% full with the skipper). Makes it much more efficient for doing transfers, which it usually ends up helping with since it always has so much fuel left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NASI Director Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I used it as a mid-stage engine for my almost-look-alike Saturn. It lifts my 4.5 tonne payload pretty darn well if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
softweir Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The Jedi Master said: So... not only am I using it wrong... but I also had the wrong name?! *facepalms self*Oh, well, we all make mistakes... We need more detail! Maybe you could post a couple pics of your rockets, better still a video of a launch attempt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJonez Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The Skipper is pretty great. I use it a fair bit. Like others have said, it fills the gap between the Mainsail and the smaller engines perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aqua667 Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Skipper is amazing! Great for heavyish payload's final circulazation burn (as stated before), or as a booster engine when I don't need the brutal mainsail. I like how the engine nozzle looks, dark carbon fiber/tungsten carbine colored. Before the skipper it was from 220 Kn on the poodle to 1500 on the mainsail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merinsan Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 I have to say, since it's introduction, it's one of my favorites. I frequently use it to do transfers from LKO to the Mun.As to why you are crashing...maybe you are just using it inappropriately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justadude Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Please, please change the title. I almost cried when I saw it. How can anyone not love the Skipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acealeam Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 The only useless one I can think of is the aerospike, but it atleast looks really cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbralRaptor Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 (edited) The Skipper is useful in that it fills in a thrust gap between the the LV-T30 (or *shudder* Poodle) and the Mainsail, as well as providing niceties like electricity and TVC. That said, its actual performance is utterly meh. 3x LV-T30s get you essentially the same thrust and better Isp for less mass. Edited August 9, 2013 by UmbralRaptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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