Jim Corps KS-1 mk2 "Selene" *ARM part update*

[Majorjim!]

Hi all!

I am very happy to be releasing an updated version of my Apollo style rocket Selene.

I used the new ARM parts to increase the realism both in looks and function.

She now has correct ullage motors and a second stage separating ring.

Having been forced to move from Skippers to Mainsails she is now very powerful. The first stage will take you up to over 600 meters per second.

FLYING NOTES:

-Hit T then throttle up to max and hit space bar

-Start a slow turn to 45 degrees when passing 200 meters per second

-Press space to separate first stage and fire retros in first stage

-Press space again to fire Second stage ullage motors

-Then space again to fire second stage motors

-Press space again to separate inter-stage ring

-Press 9 for escape tower separation

-fly baby fly!

-at 40,000 meters start a turn to 20 degrees

-keep second stage connected during coast to ap

-Hit space a few seconds before circularizing burn to separate third stage and fire ullage motors to push all that fuel down

-Then again to fire third stage motor

-once in orbit use third stage to shoot for the Mun

-Press 6 to detach payload fairing. you can stage it with space but the docking port wont detach so press 6!

-turn around and dock with lander-this is easy!

-press space again and pull out lander with RCS

-Use CSM for Munar insertion

-10,000 meters is good

-Trasfer pilot into lander

-THIS IS IMPORTANT! Deactivate toroidal tanks around the ascent stage for Mun landing and activate them again for Ascent

-Once on the surface press space to seperate the rover payload faring

-Then again to release the rover

I guess you know the rest!!!!

Here are some pictures and a video of the full launch:

PHEW!!

I think I will use Imgr next time..

Anyway there she is!

Thanks for looking.

MJ

DOWNLOAD LINK: http://www./download/x82kbbrs4lzdo6t/Jim-Corp+SELENE+mk+2.craft

Edited April 23, 2014 by Majorjim

[GusTurbo]

Looks like Mulbin has some competition!

[Giggleplex777]

That rover is so cute! I can't believe that you were able to fit that inside the lander!

I can see that you attached the CSM to the fairings. Must have been a pain to attach.

[Majorjim!]

That rover is so cute! I can't believe that you were able to fit that inside the lander!

I can see that you attached the CSM to the fairings. Must have been a pain to attach.

Yeah that rover was a pain!! And the funny thing is I didn't attach the CSM to the fairing. Im not sure why there is no fairing on the poodle..

[Majorjim!]

Looks like Mulbin has some competition!

Thanks Gus. but without some of His techniques this wouldn't have been built!

[Capt Snuggler]

really, really nice dude. well done. can you post a close up of those fairings?

also how do you take those off center screen shots?

Edited November 29, 2013 by Capt Snuggler

[Majorjim!]

really, really nice dude. well done. can you post a close up of those fairings?

also how do you take those off center screen shots?

Cheers dude. To take off-center shots, press and hold the middle mouse button and rotate.

Pics of the fairings:

MJ

[Rune]

Wow, impressive Apollo replica. Looks much better than my Project Phoebus. Can I assume you have some consistency of engines? Like Mainsail=F-1, Poodle=SPS, I don't know what you use as a J-2 equivalent... It is always nice to see how the T/W, mass ratio and staging can get you an Apollo-like profile in different combinations.

Also, part count? Just so I can rest assured mine is still a fraction, so I can accept that it will never look as slick as these, but it is still worth being posted.

Rune. The rover is just great. Wish I had the mass budget to put one on Phoebus... I tried!

[Majorjim!]

Wow, impressive Apollo replica. Looks much better than my Project Phoebus. Can I assume you have some consistency of engines? Like Mainsail=F-1, Poodle=SPS, I don't know what you use as a J-2 equivalent... It is always nice to see how the T/W, mass ratio and staging can get you an Apollo-like profile in different combinations.

Also, part count? Just so I can rest assured mine is still a fraction, so I can accept that it will never look as slick as these, but it is still worth being posted.

Rune. The rover is just great. Wish I had the mass budget to put one on Phoebus... I tried!

Hi Rune.

I have tried as much as possible to stick to the Saturn V features but this is a Saturn V alike, not a recreation so I had some space to make changes.

The whole rocket weighs 351.56 t. I had to increase the size of the first stage by 1/4 to allow it to climb to around 20k m altitude and increase the velocity at separation.

The stages are as follows:

1. 4 Mainsails

2. 4 LV-T30 1 Skipper

3. 1 Skipper

So I am out by one engine compared to the real one.

Part count is 750. there are quite a few struts and fuel lines in there and it may be possible to reduce the number and remain as stiff as it is now. But It would require more testing. And I have done enough of that for a while.

I will have a look at your Phoebus Rune and report back.

MJ

Edited December 1, 2013 by Majorjim

[Majorjim!]

I have noticed a few things that I forgot and one bug that I haven't run into before. I was launching the rocket to get weights of stages and the first stage would no longer separate properly..

So I have fixed that.

Also there is a bug in the game/my craft that causes the mainsail to not gimble when launched by action group. So I removed the first action group.

My apologies to anyone who has flow the craft and exploded spectacularly.

Anyway, link in the first post has been updated.

Thanks all!

MJ

Edited December 1, 2013 by Majorjim

[John FX]

Very nice, looks like you have some wriggle room as far as TWR goes if you decide to have 5 engines on the first stage. Apollo turned off the center engine about 80% of the way through the stage 1 and 2 burns anyway so you could probably do that with your current craft.

Also very cute rover. Does it have a way of recharging like a solar panel?

EDIT : Hehe, I also hid mine in the fairing but it`s a little larger...

Edited December 1, 2013 by John FX

[Majorjim!]

Very nice, looks like you have some wriggle room as far as TWR goes if you decide to have 5 engines on the first stage. Apollo turned off the center engine about 80% of the way through the stage 1 and 2 burns anyway so you could probably do that with your current craft.

Also very cute rover. Does it have a way of recharging like a solar panel?

EDIT : Hehe, I also hid mine in the fairing but it`s a little larger...

Yeah I am tempted to try another Mainsail in there. It would clip into the other nozzles though.. Perhaps a Skipper?

Yup I have another version of the rover with a probe and solar panel. I was going to make that the one in the rocket but the panel clipped too much into some cubic struts and would sometimes break off..

Plus I thought that its safer to have one without something so fragile on it. Its almost indestructible as you can just repair the wheels! The batteries in there give it a good range for local exploring but with a time limit.

Like real life. You just head back when its half empty.

here is a pic of the solar version:

MJ

[John FX]

Very nice minimalist design. Have you thought about just a few fixed panels? you could use them almost like bodywork. they are a bit closer fitting so might survive.

I couldn`t resist the classic two man buggy with the four big wheels and headlights, just for the `we were driving on the mun one day` feel. This has sort of been the design brief for mine, a craft that can fit the buggy, rather than the other way around. I`m liking these new mini Apollo craft that are coming out though.

[Rune]

Hi Rune.

I have tried as much as possible to stick to the Saturn V features but this is a Saturn V alike, not a recreation so I had some space to make changes.

The whole rocket weighs 351.56 t. I had to increase the size of the first stage by 1/4 to allow it to climb to around 20k m altitude and increase the velocity at separation.

The stages are as follows:

1. 4 Mainsails

2. 4 LV-T30 1 Skipper

3. 1 Skipper

So I am out by one engine compared to the real one.

Part count is 750. there are quite a few struts and fuel lines in there and it may be possible to reduce the number and remain as stiff as it is now. But It would require more testing. And I have done enough of that for a while.

I will have a look at your Phoebus Rune and report back.

MJ

No worries, we each take our replicas in different directions, and that is the good part. Also, as John FX says, it gives you room for expansion in the future if you decide to do v2.0 (uprated Saturn!). And don't worry for part count, I was going for it from the start, so it's rather unsurprising my replica is almost a third of yours on that regard (250-something I think). Great for potato computers! But sadly much worse looking as a result, even though I threw some fairings to do the CM-hanging form the fairings thing

Rune. We could do an Apollo-style thread, I'm sure.

[John FX]

We could do an Apollo-style thread, I'm sure.

Funny you should say that, come and join in! everyone welcome, show off your apollo style craft.

http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/59459-Apollo-KSP-Discussion-Thread

[Majorjim!]

No worries, we each take our replicas in different directions, and that is the good part. Also, as John FX says, it gives you room for expansion in the future if you decide to do v2.0 (uprated Saturn!). And don't worry for part count, I was going for it from the start, so it's rather unsurprising my replica is almost a third of yours on that regard (250-something I think). Great for potato computers! But sadly much worse looking as a result, even though I threw some fairings to do the CM-hanging form the fairings thing

Rune. We could do an Apollo-style thread, I'm sure.

Wow, you have a lot of great looking ships Rune! I love those VTOL SSTOs!

And as John FX says, have a look at his Apollo thread.

MJ

[SoldierBoy027]

I have been looking for an Apollo style rocket/lander and this one is fantastic. Can't wait to try it!

[Majorjim!]

I have been looking for an Apollo style rocket/lander and this one is fantastic. Can't wait to try it!

Glad to hear that SoldierBoy! Let me know how she treats you.

MJ

[astropapi1]

That thing is glorious.

[John FX]

That thing is glorious.

I only just realised that if it were fitted in an Eagle it would fit into the quarter circle sort of space the original rover fitted into.

(couldn`t find a decent image of it either stored or being unpacked)

[Majorjim!]

I only just realised that if it were fitted in an Eagle it would fit into the quarter circle sort of space the original rover fitted into.

(couldn`t find a decent image of it either stored or being unpacked)

You mean the slight bulge on the port side on the LM? The RL one I mean.

[Gojira]

We can now disable Mainsail gimbal in the VAB, so the action group isn't even necessary anymore. Great work on this.

[Majorjim!]

We can now disable Mainsail gimbal in the VAB, so the action group isn't even necessary anymore. Great work on this.

That is good news! thanks for that.

[Majorjim!]

Hi everyone,

I have made some major changes to Selene. First post for all the goodness.

MJ

[Capt Snuggler]

Nice work dude! have you tried getting a two-man lander in there? seems like it should easily have the power to lift it.

I have some small lander building techniques that might suit. will send pics when I have them.