specs Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Perfect, this is definitely going to be my new crew transport.She flies like a dream!Quick experiment: I'm going to try, and rendezvous with my telescope in geosynch orbit. Let's see what she can really do*!*without FAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazari1382 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Quick experiment: I'm going to try, and rendezvous with my telescope in geosynch orbit. Let's see what she can really doLooks good, can you show a screen with the actual connected port? What structure is that closest to the shuttle? Also nice screen with the chute Razorcane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It's the "Pimp my Kerbals" Texture pack hereWow, suddenly I just had this vision of Peter Stormare as a German saying, "Do you know what we're going to do now? Unpimp your Kerbal...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itsdavyjones Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Well, I can get the shuttle launched, but landing tallies are as follow:Unplanned Rapid Dis-assembly - 5 Major - 3 Minor - 2Successful landings - 0The crew survived every landing.Otherwise amazing mod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naten Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I cannot answer PM's at the moment unrelated to technical issues or bugs as I'm very busy answering people's questions and any technical issues.If you would like a peek as to how a lot of the KSO was done, see the original Kerbin Mini Shuttle thread and look for the External Fuel Tank modeling from start to finish posts I made.What modeling program, art program, etcetera to use is way beyond the scope of this or that thread. However there are numerous resources on the web dealing with several modeling programs including Blender or MilkShape as well as student licenses for 3DMax or Maya. There are numerous tutorials on how to get started modeling in such programs.I see, thanks for that, but I've already sorta... kinda... got everything done but a few things... Well, here's my PM. Hello, Helldiver. I'm working on my own shuttle, Helldiver, you inspired me. It's going to be more blunt, and probably a bit smaller.Your shuttle is so cute, Helldiver; it makes me cry... Well, here: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/68514-WIP-My-Shuttle-Orbiter-Tribute-to-Helldiver-ALSO-QUESTIONS-Feedback-pwees%21I've got models all set, and some bits here and there of texturing, and Unity; I can handle its... Unityness. What I want to know is how you got all of those props in your IVA view. Do I download them and place them individually, or is it defined by a transform? Also, windows. Windows, ah, windows. They scared me away from doing IVA's. Do you know how to window a make for inside ship look Kerbal perspekteev? (Translation: Do you know how to maek veendoh?)In Blender, my models look transparent from the inside, same with KSP, Unity and stuff. (Even though they are sorta the same thing, but KSP is an extension of Unity in the form of a game...) Do I just need to intrude in through a door, and kinda "carve out" and clear up the interior? I really wanna know.If you've read this far, I love you. Nobody ever listens to me. Naten's an idiot. He's ranting about windows again. He's USELESS AND DUMB. Let's see how long it takes for him to notice that we're doing this.I'm sure that's what they're doing. It makes me sad. Snjo, and maybe you, Desmond Tiny and BlazingAngel are the only ones that listen to me. I hope you do, it'd make my day. On a similar hand to what I was saying until I self-flamed myself hard (), do you know about what I need to do? Please walk me through doing these things, as well as making a payload bay. I can make animations, export .fbx's into Unity, make emissives, and stuff, but do I need Snjo's plugin for the door animation? Thanks so much. Great day to you, good sir! Cheers,-NatenThanks for responding, Lord of the KSO Helldiver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neutrinovore Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://i.imgur.com/TPjsyAN.jpgI was never good at landing, but I was able to land this thing. Ignore the HyperEdit window, I had it open in case the shuttle collided with my station(which happened the first time I tried to de-orbit). I wonder what the chances are of a shuttle de-orbiting from 550km and hitting a station at 100km.Lol, too bad you don't have a video, I bet that was an epic collision! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscosmos Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Specs, that station looks so cool. What mod is that big module and the Orion looking capsule from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) http://i.imgur.com/TPjsyAN.jpgI was never good at landing, but I was able to land this thing. Ignore the HyperEdit window, I had it open in case the shuttle collided with my station(which happened the first time I tried to de-orbit). I wonder what the chances are of a shuttle de-orbiting from 550km and hitting a station at 100km.This is just gorgeous! Love how you deployed flaps on final!Perfect, this is definitely going to be my new crew transport.https://31.media.tumblr.com/54a3346e805cb00f0efa482f51a85181/tumblr_n0jpu9200r1tq6149o1_1280.pngShe flies like a dream!Quick experiment: I'm going to try, and rendezvous with my telescope in geosynch orbit. Let's see what she can really do*!*without FARFuture updates and phases will improve on the docking module, as well as add a better docking ring and frame that doesn't cut so much into the cargo bay. Edited February 6, 2014 by helldiver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enneract Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQPToBNI8kUThat didn't take long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
specs Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Looks good, can you show a screen with the actual connected port? What structure is that closest to the shuttle? Also nice screen with the chute Razorcane.Oh ja! Here's a closer pic:Pretty basic stuff, although there is a reason behind the corresponding Clam-o-Tron jr.:Cargo, baby! Oh, yeah!Edit: In my first post, that module on the right is my telescope service vehicle; the one on the left is my crew escape vessel.Specs, that station looks so cool. What mod is that big module and the Orion looking capsule from?Thanks!The command pod's from here:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/48867-WIP-Apollo-like-crew-module-(Updated-download-28-12-2013)And the habitat is from:http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/43840-Hab-Hub-(and-other-strange-things) Edited February 6, 2014 by specs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoubleOSeven1 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 (edited) Anyone experiancing flickering using the latest version? (could be the fault of beta drivers (i think))Edit: known issue with beta drivers... Edited February 6, 2014 by DoubleOSeven1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalculusWarrior Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Quick experiment: I'm going to try, and rendezvous with my telescope in geosynch orbit. Let's see what she can really do*!From what I've found (of course, I didn't exactly have the most efficient launch profile), she can get you up to an apoapsis of roughly geosynch, and a periapsis inside the atmosphere. You'll probably need to pack a little extra fuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazari1382 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Nice pics specs. Helldiver is planning to do a module that will be more appropriate for standard ports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentmassen Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Is this deadly reentry ready? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Mucking about with a riff on George von Pragenau's alternative shuttle stack designs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tada Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Just quick question - I´ve noticed that shuttles on various pics have different names, how that works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisarmingBaton5 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 KST-2The rest of the mission was a failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonkeyLunch Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I would love to add this to my mod folder. But since deadly reentry is also in there, ill have to wait for compatibility. A lot of users use that mod, so not supporting it will limit how many choose to enjoy this great looking addon. I sure hope the mod maker decides to make compatibility more of a priority. My gamedata folder needs a space shuttle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tada Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think that someoene mentioned it can survive deadly re-entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helldiver Posted February 6, 2014 Author Share Posted February 6, 2014 Just quick question - I´ve noticed that shuttles on various pics have different names, how that works?Go to the OP and scroll down to my second post (right after the OP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cydonian Monk Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I think that someoene mentioned it can survive deadly re-entry.Indeed. I've used it with the default DRE settings with no issues. (Aside from RealChutes drag chutes burning off... that's a different issue.)If you're using more aggressive DRE settings, try a rolling reentry where you roll left a few degrees then right a few degrees, repeat.... That spreads the heat around to different parts. (I've had to do this with stock spaceplanes, too, FWIW.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazari1382 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 A DRE config was added to the install. I don't use it, so it was taking values from other parts. I'll be tweaking it based on feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sentmassen Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 Indeed. I've used it with the default DRE settings with no issues. (Aside from RealChutes drag chutes burning off... that's a different issue.)If you're using more aggressive DRE settings, try a rolling reentry where you roll left a few degrees then right a few degrees, repeat.... That spreads the heat around to different parts. (I've had to do this with stock spaceplanes, too, FWIW.)For DRE I have moded the the shielded ships to have high heat bleed off (because Ive set my DRE exponent to 1.12). Ill download this tonight and make the same changes. But I don't know if this actually has directional ablative shields set up, that I DONT know how to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffp12 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 I've tried rescaling the shuttle with some success. I wanted it to fit large sized parts.http://imgur.com/a/IPFmRI've changed the rescale factor on each part to 1.5, and then doubled every value (amount of fuel, mass, thrust, etc.). The real work came in changing all the attach nodes, but again, multiplying most of the values by 1.5 did the trick (had a hell of a time with the nose gear as the correct value changed in the opposite direction as expected).Anywho, I got all the parts fitting together and got the shuttle to work just fine, except for one thing...When you reload a save, or even revert to launch, the command module, the crewed part of the shuttle, it shrinks back to the regular size. I don't understand why it does that or how to fix it, nor do I understand why only that part does this resizing and nothing else...I've made some modifications as well. I have previously made an upscaled version of the closable aerodynamic docking adapter, and used that on the nose of the shuttle (rather than doing those off-axis dockings). I've also added these ports to the top and bottom of the external tank, along with probe parts, batteries, etc., so that the ETs can be used in orbit perhaps as wet workshops. But doing so caused a problem. I found that if I attach something to the bottom of the ET, it changes the function of the External tank's "decouple" mechanism. Now instead of decoupling from the orbiter, it decouples the docking port off the bottom of the tank. Then it's impossible to seperate the tank from the orbiter. I also added a decoupling mechanism to the command pod section of the orbiter, so that I could strap on some rockets and abort and just seperate the crew cabin (and added parachutes to it). I found that when I hit abort, it actually wouldn't sever the external tank from the command pod (because of aforementioned problem). So this added decoupling module I added to the part file may contribute to these issues. I also have found it very difficult to fly the orbiter coming back. my strategy of multiplying values by 1.5 doesn't seem to have worked when it came to the flight characteristics of the shuttle.What should I be doing to the drag coeff and the deflectionliftcoeff? I left drag alone and multiplied the deflectionliftcoeff, but that doesn't seem to have worked. (shuttle flips around and wants to fly backwards). Also I don't have FAR or any other mods installed except for the inflatable parts and some rescaled stock parts I've made myself. Anyway. If anyone knows how to better upscale the shuttle, let me know what I'm doing wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nazari1382 Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 For DRE I have moded the the shielded ships to have high heat bleed off (because Ive set my DRE exponent to 1.12). Ill download this tonight and make the same changes. But I don't know if this actually has directional ablative shields set up, that I DONT know how to do.I made a new cfg to test the modules with ablative shields.If you use Deadly Reentry please test this out!http://www./download/ut7iuhlif5wd59m/DRE_KSO_Ablative_shield_testing.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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