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Larger parts are coming to KSP!


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Now our Saturn V replicas will not have to be an ungainly cluster of tanks.

But that was part of the challenge. The near impossibility of building something that size this that doesn't offend the kraken in some way made success so rewarding XD

Now it will be trivial.

Honestly tho, I'm really looking forward to this. Haven't been this excited for an update since they added rover wheels!

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[JOKE]No. This means that Whackjob can make a gilly sized rocket out of the same amount of parts.[/JOKE]

Either way, I will be interested to see what they do. I think it wouldn't be enough for a Saturn V just to have 3.75m parts. That barely covers the S-IVB. No, if we are going to have a true kerbal scale SLS or Saturn V there will need to be 5m parts. Squad working with NASA on the mission pack means that the new part are almost defiantely going to be a blend of SLS/Saturn V/Stock, and hopefully we will get 3.75m docking parts and crew tanks. Kerbal scale Apollo-Venus Flyby anyone?

Also, if the Devs see this: Please, please, PLEASE make stock SLS style fairings!

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This probably means whackjob can make bigger rockets with less parts.

Or better still, even bigger rockets with even more parts...

which makes launching the "even bigger than giant" rovers I make easier*

And you have to expect the VAB to be enlarged.... and the launchpad rebuilt

Boris

*landing them is another matter :D

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But that was part of the challenge. The near impossibility of building something that size this that doesn't offend the kraken in some way made success so rewarding XD

Now it will be trivial.

Honestly tho, I'm really looking forward to this. Haven't been this excited for an update since they added rover wheels!

The main challenge is to keep parts from randomly falling off, which isn't fun at all. I'm super excited about larger parts.

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Well, you can see what this would look like right now with the Anvil rocket parts. Fairings and all. I've been launching some very large ships with nice, sleek-looking cones over them. The fairings go up to 5 meters. The pats (erm, parts) are 4m or 4.5? Not sure. Anyway, very large and sturdy, and blessedly strut-free. I only strut my payload to the decoupler now.

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I think he said that the new tanks are 6 times as big as the orange tanks, so depending on wether he meant diameter or volume they could be up to 15 meters.

Edit: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/68894-Newest-Squadcast-Highlights-lots-of-new-info-about-24 yeah in the Q&A he said that on big tank will make up for 6 orange tanks and 6 rockomax engines, so I assume it will be 5 or 6 meters.

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Okay, so in Squadcast they said size 3 parts. Now, 0.625m parts are modeled as size 1/2 and 1.25m parts are size 1, and 2.5m parts are size 2. This has to do with KSP converting the model's size units to meters and applying the default 1.25 rescale factor (but plenty of you already know that :P).

Size 3 parts, run through that same scalar, would be 3.75m parts. For anyone who runs KW Rocketry, this will be nothing new, just another mod gone stock.

Now, the SLS is 8.4m diameter on the first stage. That translates to ~5.3 meters in kerbal scale. A true-to-life SLS replica would need a 3.75m command pod for Orion and the upper stage, and 5m parts for the lower stage, with 2.5m SRBs (though if you ask me SRBs are something we need to stop using IRL). An SLS replica would be HUGE!!!!

So, either 3.75m parts, or both 3.75m and 5m parts are coming to KSP.

5m parts, in all honesty, would make going anywhere with any payload trivial. I feel like that's something that should be reserved for use with RSS or with the NASA pack only. 3.75, tanks and engines are big enough.

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I think he said that the new tanks are 6 times as big as the orange tanks, so depending on wether he meant diameter or volume they could be up to 15 meters.

He said one stack of the new stuff equals a full 6 jumbo, 6 mainsail lifter.

For comparison, the largest KW tank equals 8 jumbos. The largest KW engine equals 3 mainsails and a skipper (roughly).

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The main challenge is to keep parts from randomly falling off, which isn't fun at all. I'm super excited about larger parts.

Of course that is awful. There is seemingly no intelligible pattern to making things not fall off. Sometimes it just works, usually it doesn't.

I'm happy that this will be a thing of the past. The thing that made me appreciate the awfulness slightly tho was the fact that I had been playing with RSS lately, and the fact that couldn't get more than 40 tons to orbit with a reasonable launcher made me appreciate the just how hard real space exploration is.

He said one stack of the new stuff equals a full 6 jumbo, 6 mainsail lifter.

For comparison, the largest KW tank equals 8 jumbos. The largest KW engine equals 3 mainsails and a skipper (roughly).

He could also have meant the diameter of the core tank vs the diameter of a jumbo tanks with 6 additional radial jumbo tanks.

With all these interpretations the diameter could be anthing from 1:1 scale to half =P

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