Comrade Jenkens Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 Now that the technology has matured a bit I'd like to see what you guys have come up with while I've been away!Pics would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woopert Posted March 1, 2014 Share Posted March 1, 2014 (edited) Excited to see what people come up with! Edited September 7, 2014 by Woopert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chirality Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) My Dual Kraken Engine ssto to Anywheretm. The workhouse (And only) ssto in the KnoefCo fleet. Check them out here. Edited March 2, 2014 by Bouncingbunny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 what's a kraken drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chirality Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 what's a kraken drive?Quoting the KSP wiki, A Kraken Drive is any assembly that lets the player control a vehicle's position using any of the Deep Space Kraken bugs. Kraken drives can be assembled with stock parts, and are of interest due to their ability to propel or halt ships effectively forever, at no cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I still don't get how this works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chirality Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I still don't get how this worksOK, quoting the wiki again:Kraken DriveA Kraken Drive is any assembly that lets the player control a vehicle's position using any of the Deep Space Kraken bugs. Kraken drives can be assembled with stock parts, and are of interest due to their ability to propel or halt ships effectively forever, at no cost.Contents [hide] 1 Background2 Use and "operating modes"3 Construction4 History5 NotesBackgroundBefore Krakensbane was introduced in v0.17, the Deep Space Kraken generated phantom forces that would act on vessels moving at very high velocity. Noticeably, when moving at extremely high velocity ex. on an orbit taking the player's ship close to the Sun, the player's orbit would visibly change due to intense Kraken-induced acceleration.Krakensbane significantly reduced phantom forces but did not remove them entirely. Physics errors can still be magnified, and even controlled, by building certain assemblies. This is the basis of the Kraken Drive.Use and "operating modes"Since Kraken drives are usually built using some assemblage of landing legs or other moving part (ex. aircraft gears) tilted so as to clip back into the vessel when extended, they can usually be toggled on and off.Kraken Drives seem to have two modes of operation: Low-, and high-velocity, with the presence of atmosphere as a possible third variable. At low velocities, below ~800m/s in the vicinity of Kerbin, many K-Drives will accelerate their vessel to a constant velocity that tends to be in the range of 0-5m/s. Above 800m/s over Kerbin, many K-drives will begin to exert constant acceleration on a ship.This discrepancy between operating velocities can be dangerous to vessels attempting to slow down using a K-Drive. If the vessel falls below the cutoff velocity, but is moving much faster than "low velocity", activating the K-Drive can make the drive try to slow itself to low velocity, instantly.Alternatively, some K-Drives seem to serve as anchors, holding the vessel fixed to a position relative to the parent body.Certain K-Drives seem to function differently in atmosphere as well as, or rather than, switching modes based on velocity.ConstructionThere is as yet no sure method for building a Kraken Drive. Performance can vary depending on the precise placement of parts, and may depend on hardware specifications, although this is by no means certain.[1]What is known is that K-Drives are usually constructed out of some moving parts ex. legs or wheels, and some structural parts, as well as reaction wheels. Legs and wheels are usually arranged in such a way that they will clip into other parts of the spaceship when extended. This can be seen in many K-Drive threads.[2][3][4] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythic_fci Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Alrighty, here's something I posted on it's own thread...The Hermes Kraken-Drive Light SpacecraftAt a mere 59 parts, it's potato computer friendly.The K-Drive is active here. This K-Drive isn't focused on power; rather, it was designed for reliability. The max speed of this K-Drive is 6Gs, but most of the time it'll use 1-3 Gs.Home sweet home. Yes, there are liquid engines for fine course corrections.As I said, this has it's own thread. Link: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/71215-The-Hermes-Kraken-Drive-Light-Spacecraft'The link for the Hermes is here: http://www./download/f2...Drive_Ship.zipThe link for the subassembly of the drive is here (I named it the Archer class drive): http://www./download/ya...ubassembly.zipCredits:Comrade Jenkins for creating and designing the first K-DrivesLevelord for giving the general idea of a 1m K-Drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainGiblets Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I've made a K-drive car Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pauly Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Jebidiah: Bill?Bill: [laughing] The Kraken drive brought me back. I told you she won't let me leave - she won't let anyone leave. Did you really think you could destroy this ship? She's defied space and time. She's been to a place you couldn't possibly imagine. And now... it is time to go back.Jebidiah: [sounding bored] I know. To hell.Bill: You know nothing. Hell is only a word. The reality is much, much worse.The Kraken Drive is pure EVIL!Lol sorry but every time I see the kraken drive I think of my favorite space horror movie Event Horizon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The K-Drive has a showcase and a wiki posting. It's officially a feature now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KissSh0t Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 An SSTO with a Kraken Drive could go anywhere...Maybe something to try building... mmmm/// Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade Jenkens Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 The K-Drive has a showcase and a wiki posting. It's officially a feature now.However the joint update in 0.24 may remove the feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythic_fci Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 However the joint update in 0.24 may remove the feature. From our understanding, the K-Drives are powered not by joints themselves, but instead by the reaction when the suspension on the landing legs freaks out about being clipped into a bigger part. Hopefully that means it'll work =D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 What happens if you lock the suspension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythic_fci Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 (edited) What happens if you lock the suspension?No idea. It's never been tested.EDIT 3/3/14 It still works, at least on my drive. Edited March 3, 2014 by FCISuperGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythic_fci Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Another post: The Falcon IIIIt's a K-drive SSTO with a jet engine for ascents.Javascript is disabled. View full album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 The K-Drive has a showcase and a wiki posting. It's officially a feature now.Holy boop. I made into KSP's wiki! There's like a tiny mention at the end. I can die happy now. Rune. And a... link to the Far Star? If I grin just a tiny bit more I'm going to need stitches, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Sierra Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 No idea. It's never been tested.I've tried it. It just breaks the leg with no propulsion. (then again, it was a very poorly designed krakendrive) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew123 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Sigh... computer still out of action, until I get time to assemble my desktop, and many exams next week. At least I think private school is fun. :)Also, I want to post that k drive warship, but I have to rebuild it since my hd was fried with the old laptop. More technical power issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 This reminds me very much of the contraptions people build in Minecraft, where people punch trees and physics are made up.I love the proof of concept, although this is not a way of playing KSP that suits me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mekan1k Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 (edited) Anyone have sub-assemblies with kraken-drives? I want to bolt one into a shuttle bay and get it to Duna and back...Or, to be more specific, is there someone who knows the principle of how to make a kraken-drive? I am curious to how it could be potentially scaled up... Edited March 3, 2014 by Mekan1k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Accelerando Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 From my own experiments, you need your landing legs to clip into at least one active reaction wheel or have one in the vicinity of the legs if not touching them, ~1m away  in the latter case, a big structural part beneath the legs can be touching the legs instead. R-wheels provide the torque to jitter the spaceship around and generate forward motion. Largest and smallest landing legs can be used. Not sure about the mid-size, or rover parts/aircraft gear.I've been able to make assemblies that wobble a lot, but no linear motion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mythic_fci Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Anyone have sub-assemblies with kraken-drives? I want to bolt one into a shuttle bay and get it to Duna and back...Or, to be more specific, is there someone who knows the principle of how to make a kraken-drive? I am curious to how it could be potentially scaled up...Yes, on my Falcon III post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kola2DONO Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 I have been experimenting with this technology, and i managed to make a kraken drive making the ship spin around, it may be usefull for large ships so they just can spin around until they get in the right heading and stops the spin with timewarp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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