[1.8.x-1.10.x] SmokeScreen 2.8.14 - Extended FX plugin (18 April 2020)

RobotsAndSpaceships · March 2, 2015

Ok, using hotrockets as scratch I've created a new "zero" config that I like for a SRB. So I rebuild the config and when I restart KSP the new SRB effects is On from the begining and it's replaced by the stock fx when I launch it. Anybody knows what I'm doing wrong here?

I had the same problem, it was due to the lack of an end curly bracket.

Sherrif · March 2, 2015

[smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy
(Filename: C:/BuildAgent/work/d63dfc6385190b60/artifacts/StandalonePlayerGenerated/UnityEngineDebug.cpp Line: 49)
UnloadTime: 119.930283 ms
Crash!!!

Every Time. Why is that?

It's a RAM crash too, somebody's got a RAM leak, but THIS mod always is the last module to do anything before it crashes, and It runs out of RAM at 3 Gigs, not 3.6, or 4 like it technically should. I have 8 and plenty free RAM for unity to grab it's 4 Gigs, in fact it could easily grab 6 with plenty of overhead if it was a 64 bit game. An explanation as to why it's always this mod on that last line is all I'm asking for.

Enceos · March 2, 2015

Every Time. Why is that?
It's a RAM crash too, somebody's got a RAM leak, but THIS mod always is the last module to do anything before it crashes, and It runs out of RAM at 3 Gigs, not 3.6, or 4 like it technically should. I have 8 and plenty free RAM for unity to grab it's 4 Gigs, in fact it could easily grab 6 with plenty of overhead if it was a 64 bit game. An explanation as to why it's always this mod on that last line is all I'm asking for.

Smokescreen is not the culprit. If you remove it you'll still keep crashing. I think it's a RAM issue. 3 Gigs is already on the edge of crashing.

sarbian · March 2, 2015

Smokescreen is unloading itself like a good mod and I left a debug line for when it unloads. If other mods had a debug line in their OnDestroy you see them too. The game crash on a scene transition, those free and then allocate a lot of mem.

Cetera · March 25, 2015

I posted this before in the HotRockets thread, but it seems like it may be dead.

Is anyone able to give me some pointers for developing my own configs? I would, of course, share back with the community. I really want to build configs that allow for a much more realistic exhaust plumes. I've been watching a lot of launch videos and doing a lot of reading to get a feel for launch plumes, and everything leads me to believe that Kerbal doesn't come close to portraying what a real launch is like. I have some questions:

1. Is this even possible with smokescreen, hot rockets, and Kerbal? Will the game and engine support this?

2. If #1 is possible, is there anyone who can assist me with building these configs?

Here's my research. I am only linking things, rather than embedding them, as some of these images are large, and those who aren't interested don't need to scroll through or load pictures hosted elsewhere:

Falcon 9

The best video of a launch that really has excellent focus on the engines and plume is this one, of a Falcon 9 launch:

At 1:50 into the video, approximately a minute and a half after liftoff, the Falcon 9 is passing through Max Q, and the exhaust plume radius is approximately three or four times the radius of the Falcon 9 launch vehicle:

At approximately 2 minutes into the launch, the Falcon 9 launch vehicle is at 33 km elevation, and the plume radius looks to be easily six times the radius of the launch vehicle.

At about 2:30 into the launch, the vehicle is at 58 km elevation, and the plume is massive, about 10x the radius (or more) of the launch vehicle.

Second stage engine ignites at about 3 minutes into the launch and the plume rapidly expands out past the edge of the picture with the camera zoomed in.

Apollo/Saturn 5

Here is the Saturn 5 launch vehicle very shortly after launch, with the condensation shock ring visible. The plume itself looks to be maybe 1.5x the radius of the vehicle, but the flame appears to be at least as long as the launch vehicle.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Apollo_11_launch.jpg

This picture shows the Saturn 5 1st stage with a plume of at least 5-6 times the radius of the launch vehicle:

http://www.ehartwell.com/afjwiki/images/4/49/KSC-69PC-413-detail.jpg

NASA has a very similar picture here (http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/apollo/apollo6/hires/s68-27366.jpg) and here (http://www.hq.nasa.gov/office/pao/History/alsj/a410/ap10-KSC-69PC-188HR.jpg)

From this page (http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/apollo.html) we have an image of the S-IVB TransLunar Injection burn of Apollo 8, as captured on the ground from Hawaii:

http://www.astr.ua.edu/keel/space/a8_saomaui.jpg

This last image looks like the plume itself may be 100x or more longer than the vehicle, and a 1000x times its radius.

Is something like this even doable in Kerbal?

sarbian · March 26, 2015

First a question : Do you want to design the exhaust particle / effect (the sprite) regardless of expansion or do the one provided with stock/hotrockets and other mods that use SmokeScreen works for you ? If the answer is yes then the best tutorial for that part is the first pots in the hotrocket thread.

If you "just" want to change expansion with the atmo then it's mainly a config problem. Once you have a basic SmokeScreen effect set up for an engine put it on tank attached to a clamp, go the the launchpad, activate infinite fuel in the cheat menu, start the engine and open SmokeScreen config UI (you need BlizzyTool bar to see the button). Then you can play with the config value and the inputs (atmo density, speed, ...)

Realism Overhaul (and late post in HotRocket thread) has config that do something like you want with the Falcon 9 (look at the image album) so you could use that as a starting point if you need more.

What you want for the Apollo is more complex. The scale of the effect you want make it hard to do with current SmokeScreen since it would need way too much particles. I plan to play with mesh for exhaust at one point (I have some idea to make them work with multiple engine) but I won't do that for a while.

If you need more info keep posting.

HafCoJoe · April 23, 2015

Big question. Is HotRockets currently the only mod that reworks the stock engine effects with your plugin? I'm curious as it seems as though HotRockets isn't being officially updated and so there might be no passed around mods that rework engine effects (official meaning not being passed around between users and updated, but updated by the creator). ;.; that would make many space programs sad...

Edited April 23, 2015 by Avera9eJoe

Mecripp · April 23, 2015

There are alot of mods that have Engine FX that use the smokescreen plugin and as far as hotrockets there are CFG from users but don't think anyone can update the thread.

HafCoJoe · April 23, 2015

Are there no other default engine part effects though? And hello again MeCripp . I've seen you around a lot recently and thanks for all the help.

Mecripp · April 23, 2015

lets goto the hotrockets thread and hello again hehe

iDInkeD06 · April 28, 2015

Will be updated soon ?

sarbian · April 28, 2015

2.6.0 Quick fix for 1.0

I'll do something cleaner later.

Download : SmokeScreen-2.6.0.0.zip

iDInkeD06 · April 28, 2015

Thanks

Bizz Keryear · April 29, 2015

2.6.0 Quick fix for 1.0
I'll do something cleaner later.
Download : SmokeScreen-2.6.0.0.zip

Thanks, for the quick dirty patch.

And, thanks in advance for for the clean patch to come.

ColonialDagger · April 29, 2015

2.6.0 Quick fix for 1.0
I'll do something cleaner later.
Download : SmokeScreen-2.6.0.0.zip

Does the smoke stay on the ground/outside the flame trenches when launching from the earth or the launch pad?

sarbian · April 29, 2015

ok, let me do that again.

2.6.0 Quick fix for 1.0

I'll do something cleaner later.

Sirrobert · April 29, 2015

ok, let me do that again.
2.6.0 Quick fix for 1.0
I'll do something cleaner later.

Can I asume you'll update it on CKAN once that's done?

And thanks for the mod

gendalf · May 23, 2015

Please add some proper links/example-pics of the configs to the OP. Kinda like Kerbal Konstructs provides links to Kerbin-Side, KSC++, etc.

igor_perusco · May 26, 2015

I don't know if it's the 1.0 quick fix which broke something, or i'm doing something wrong (most likely) but i cannot get any particles working for the engage/disengage effects

@PART[liquidEngine]{
    !fx_exhaustFlame_blue = DELETE
    !fx_smokeTrail_light = DELETE
    !fx_exhaustLight_blue = DELETE
    !fx_exhaustSparks_flameout = DELETE

    !sound_vent_medium = DELETE
    !sound_rocket_hard = DELETE
    !sound_vent_soft = DELETE
    !sound_explosion_low = DELETE

    @MODULE[ModuleEngines]
    {
        @name = ModuleEnginesFX
        %powerEffectName = exhaustfx
    }

    EFFECTS
    {
        exhaustfx
        {
            // NOTE: I removed the 10 or so emmiter spam that was under here to shorten the post
            // and replaced it with a generic one, as what was there was not really relevant (i hope)
            MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST
            {
                name = plumeExtBoundary
                modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/flamejet
                transformName = thrustTransform
            }
            AUDIO
            {
              channel = Ship
              clip = sound_rocket_hard 
              volume = 0.0 0.0
              volume = 1.0 1.0
              pitch = 0.0 0.2
              pitch = 1.0 1.0
              loop = true
            }
        }
        engage
        {
            AUDIO
            {
              channel = Ship
              clip = sound_vent_medium
              volume = 1.0
              pitch = 2.0
              loop = false
            }
            MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST
            {
                name = ignitionFlash
                modelName = MP_Nazari/FX/fusionflame2
                transformName = thrustTransform
                singleEmitTimer = 1.0
                // curves go here, yadda yadda, you know the rest
            }
        }
        disengage
        {
            AUDIO
            {
                channel = Ship
                clip = sound_vent_soft
                volume = 1.0
                pitch = 2.0
                loop = false
            }
        }
        flameout
        {
            AUDIO
            {
                channel = Ship
                clip = sound_explosion_low
                volume = 1.0
                pitch = 2.0
                loop = false
            }
        }
    }
}

However i mess around with the curves and the different variables, nothing i do affects the "ignitionFlash" emitter. It's stays on constantly at its default setting and responds to no variable i put in there, not even resing it works.

What do i have to do to get a particle emitter to work under the engage/disengage effects?

note: i've tried both MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE and MODEL_MULTI_PARTICLE_PERSIST

i apologize for the messy code, it looked much better in NP++

Edited May 26, 2015 by igor_perusco

sarbian · May 26, 2015

I think there is a problem in stock for the Engage/Disengage FX with the change to ModuleEnginesFX in 1.0 . I ll have to test it tonight.

sarbian · May 26, 2015

It ended up to be more complex than anticipated. I had a problem in my code (easy) and there is a problem in stock that goes a little deep with when the effect are initialized. I won't go into the details but I added a workaround in SmokeScreen and made a bug for the devs.

Tell me if it works for you igor_perusco.

2.6.1 Fix the singleEmitTimer and add workaround for the stock effect init problem

Download : SmokeScreen-2.6.1.0.zip

igor_perusco · May 27, 2015

Thank you i'll definitely give this a try in a few days when my pc becomes usable again (HDD failure)

Blacks · May 28, 2015

hello there till igor it will test i can post data from output_log.txt & KSP.log from 2.6.1 version

[LOG 01:05:25.489] Load(Assembly): SmokeScreen/SmokeScreen

[LOG 01:05:25.490] AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at D:\Games\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\SmokeScreen\SmokeScreen.dll

[LOG 01:05:25.933] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:05:54.943] Load(Texture): SmokeScreen/SmokeScreen

SmokeScreen v2.6.1.0

[LOG 01:07:31.000] [ModuleManager] :BEFORE[sMOKESCREEN] pass

[LOG 01:07:31.073] [ModuleManager] :FOR[sMOKESCREEN] pass

[LOG 01:07:31.147] [ModuleManager] :AFTER[sMOKESCREEN] pass

[LOG 01:09:09.355] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:09:10.125] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:09:11.454] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnSceneChange

[LOG 01:09:12.227] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:09:13.297] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:09:16.241] ActiveTextureManagement: Name: SmokeScreen/SmokeScreen

[LOG 01:09:37.221] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnSceneChange

[LOG 01:09:37.471] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:09:37.850] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:09:38.860] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:09:39.313] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:00.388] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnSceneChange

[LOG 01:11:01.121] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:11:01.467] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:02.364] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:11:02.822] Assembly:SmokeScreen, Version=2.6.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null

[LOG 01:11:02.898] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:38.518] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnSceneChange

[LOG 01:11:38.817] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:11:40.299] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:41.172] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:11:42.119] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:42.120] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'SmokeScreenConfig' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:42.121] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'SmokeScreenUI' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:11:44.163] SmokeScreenConfig could not load config

[LOG 01:17:49.643] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnSceneChange

[LOG 01:17:50.466] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:17:51.005] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:17:51.818] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

[LOG 01:17:52.317] AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

[LOG 01:19:40.488] [smokeScreen PersistentEmitterManager] : OnDestroy

Load(Assembly): SmokeScreen/SmokeScreen

AssemblyLoader: Loading assembly at D:\Games\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\SmokeScreen\SmokeScreen.dll

Non platform assembly: D:\Games\Kerbal Space Program\GameData\SmokeScreen\SmokeScreen.dll (this message is harmless)

AddonLoader: Instantiating addon 'PersistentEmitterManager' from assembly 'SmokeScreen'

Load(Texture): SmokeScreen/SmokeScreen

SmokeScreen v2.6.1.0

[ModuleManager] :BEFORE[sMOKESCREEN] pass

[ModuleManager] :FOR[sMOKESCREEN] pass

[ModuleManager] :AFTER[sMOKESCREEN] pass