[1.12.5] KerbTrack v1.6 Head tracking using your webcam, TrackIR, opentrack, joystick (2024-07-08)

[TechnicalK3rbal]

Can we get some more detailed install instructions?

[Dirt_Merchant]

Ok guys, got this working in .23.5. The install goes like any other, installed to gamedata that is. In order for it to work, however, you need to place the freetrackclient.dll into the root ksp directory. This file is included with freetrack, but I cannot say what the situation with faceTrackNoIr is. Honestly though, building yourself a freetrack setup, or even springing for a TrackIr setup is the better option by such a wide margin, at least as things are now.

[Nuke]

i think facetrack uses the same api as freetrack. but dont quote me on that. there is source for the dll but i think it was written in pascal.

[mythic_fci]

Testing with FaceTrackNoIR on 0.23.5, will report back with results (with FreeTrackClient.dll)

EDIT: Works fine, but sucks. I'm downloading FreeTrack.

Edited April 5, 2014 by FCISuperGuy

[Dirt_Merchant]

I can report that using this plugin with my freetrack setup works great! This mod is so awesome I can hardly type about it without becoming awesome too!

[soggymushrooms]

For those of you saying you're going to FreeTrack: DON'T

FaceTrack has other trackers in it that are for tracking leds, the one it uses is called PointTracker , it is a fork of FreeTrack as FreeTrack has not been updated in years. It also has more configuration options for smoothing and such. The single biggest thing it does is calibrate the tracker offset, i.e. the offset from the reference led to the center of your head. This alone took me forever to do in FreeTrack, and I couldn't even get it to work in-game. It also outputs to games that only use TrackIR, as well as ones that support FreeTrack.

TL;DR: FreeTrack sucks, use PointTracker integrated into FaceTrackNoIR instead.

[UAL002]

I have track IR 4. How do I use this with Freetrack? Im so confused.

[mythic_fci]

For those of you saying you're going to FreeTrack: DON'T

FaceTrack has other trackers in it that are for tracking leds, the one it uses is called PointTracker , it is a fork of FreeTrack as FreeTrack has not been updated in years. It also has more configuration options for smoothing and such. The single biggest thing it does is calibrate the tracker offset, i.e. the offset from the reference led to the center of your head. This alone took me forever to do in FreeTrack, and I couldn't even get it to work in-game. It also outputs to games that only use TrackIR, as well as ones that support FreeTrack.

TL;DR: FreeTrack sucks, use PointTracker integrated into FaceTrackNoIR instead.

As expected. Switched back to FaceTrack after FreeTrack couldn't even detect my goddamn face. However, there's a bug in the mod where the thing will stutter back to a single position for 1 second in IVA.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FCISuperGuy

[UAL002]

Ok so I have TrackIR 4 hardware, I have the older version of Freetrack thats supports it, now what?

[mythic_fci]

Ok so I have TrackIR 4 hardware, I have the older version of Freetrack thats supports it, now what?

Calm down bud, 2 comments with the same meaning!

First of all, download the mod and paste to the GameData folder.

Go to the FreeTrack folder and search for the "FreeTrackClient.dll" file. Copy and paste it into the KSP folder, and JUST the KSP folder (NOT the GameData Folder).

The plugin should work now, but just.

If you want to clean up the performance, go to GameData/KerbTrack/Plugins/PluginData/settings.cfg and edit the files. You can test with a ship on the launchpad and switching back to KSC main view to reload settings to your satisfaction.

Edited April 6, 2014 by FCISuperGuy

[UAL002]

Nogo. Running Freetrack first? I never see that the freetrack camera window sees my trackclip. My only dropdown menu item is the demo video.

Moved over TIRviews.dll too.

Edited April 6, 2014 by UAL002

[Nuke]

For those of you saying you're going to FreeTrack: DON'T

FaceTrack has other trackers in it that are for tracking leds, the one it uses is called PointTracker , it is a fork of FreeTrack as FreeTrack has not been updated in years. It also has more configuration options for smoothing and such. The single biggest thing it does is calibrate the tracker offset, i.e. the offset from the reference led to the center of your head. This alone took me forever to do in FreeTrack, and I couldn't even get it to work in-game. It also outputs to games that only use TrackIR, as well as ones that support FreeTrack.

TL;DR: FreeTrack sucks, use PointTracker integrated into FaceTrackNoIR instead.

freetrack is stable software, it doesnt need to be updated. it also is really good if properly configured and with a well designed set of markers. the freetrack forum has pages of information about building your tracking rigs. if you want something that can work out of the box with no effort, then it is not for you. but it is pretty damn versatile when you know what you are doing. its also the only option i know of that works with wiimotes and trackir cameras that i know about. it is however nice to have other options.

Nogo. Running Freetrack first? I never see that the freetrack camera window sees my trackclip. My only dropdown menu item is the demo video.

Moved over TIRviews.dll too.

you need the optitrack sdk. you can get everything from here:

http://naturalpointofview.blogspot.com/p/trackir-cameras-with-freetrack.html

Edited April 6, 2014 by Nuke

[UAL002]

My hero. I'll start in on it now.

EDIT: I got it working. Its rough, but wow. This has tons of potential.

Edited April 6, 2014 by UAL002

[Unit327]

Would you consider hosting the code on github? I'd love to contribute, mostly to get linuxtrack or opentrack support in for linux/osx users and github is the easiest way to do that.

[pizzaoverhead]

Would you consider hosting the code on github? I'd love to contribute, mostly to get linuxtrack or opentrack support in for linux/osx users and github is the easiest way to do that.

I'd been meaning to do this. It's available now here.

[GROOV3ST3R]

When everyone is referring to NEXT-Gen technology......

THIS is what First-Gen tech feels like. the original makeshift-OCULUS virtual reality. This is insane I might give it a go.

[Nuke]

Would you consider hosting the code on github? I'd love to contribute, mostly to get linuxtrack or opentrack support in for linux/osx users and github is the easiest way to do that.

it looks like opentrack can emulate the freetrack interface. so you can use that to open up a lot of other interfaces that wouldn't otherwise be supported.

the downside is that it doesnt support freetrack api on linux. which really doesnt make sense. the source for the freetrack dll is available here (its freakin' pascal), im surprised nobody ported it to linux. seriously it only exports like 4 functions. might be possible to build a wrapper to convert linuxtrack calls to freetrack calls on linux.

Edited April 12, 2014 by Nuke

[Unit327]

After downloading and playing with both, linuxtrack is definitely the way to go. It's just so much more mature, the options for setup, configuration and testing are so much better than opentrack.

After trying headtracking in xplane the result was vommit inducing, so I'm not sure how interested I'll be in working on it though. Could have just been my dodgy piloting skills, anyone would be sick the way I was flying. Helicopters are hard!

[KAO]

me = blown away

smooth AND amazing. I guess I still need to get the hang of it, my motions are nowhere near as smooth as the ones in the video. But nevertheless, it's a phenomenal plugin.

[Nuke]

After downloading and playing with both, linuxtrack is definitely the way to go. It's just so much more mature, the options for setup, configuration and testing are so much better than opentrack.

After trying headtracking in xplane the result was vommit inducing, so I'm not sure how interested I'll be in working on it though. Could have just been my dodgy piloting skills, anyone would be sick the way I was flying. Helicopters are hard!

you could probibly support both libraries, conditionally using one or the other based on your platform. the data they output are pretty much the same, though linuxtrack has a few other functions to export.

it would be nice if we could support all tracking devices on all platforms, but no unified multiplatform head tracking library exists. for example linuxtrack doesnt look like it supports inertial trackers. ftnoir and opentrack, don't support trackir cameras, freetrack does albeit kind of unofficially, but it is the most cumbersome to setup and quite well aged. i suppose its possible to support all the interfaces (except, ironically, naturalpoint's), having some kind of autodetect. the freetrack protocol does seem to hit most of the bases though, except for linux/osx. so two protocols is probibly enough.

[Carcharoth]

Hello, I have a little question, this mod is broken on KSP v0.23.5?

Thanks.

[z26]

That would be pretty cool combined with the first person eva of lazorsystems!

[Carcharoth]

Thanks, I made a mistake and did not put the dll in the KSP main directory.

[Persa]

+1 for this to continue development! I've created my own headset with IR LEDs to use with freetrack!

[crinkelite]

I'm having trouble compiling this. visual studio 2010 is unable to open .csproj files. Is there a free and easy way to get this compiled?

Thanks