[DEV][0.24.x][Jul 24] SCANsat v7.0rc4 -- Real Scanning, Real Science, at Warp Speed!

[DMagic]

However it does not seem to be cross-pollinating with the built-in Kethane Overlay (my Kethane overlay looks like nothing has been scanned even though I have a ~98% scan on bigmap (just missing a few degrees at the poles)).

Are you rebuilding the Kethane grid database from the settings menu?

Unfortunately there is really no simple way to automatically transfer SCANsat data back to Kethane without creating even more performance issues. On top of that the Kethane grid display won't update with the SCANsat data even after rebuilding its database; with multiple Kethane resources you can just switch which type is being displayed to get it to reset, but with just Kethane you have to re-load, or switch vessels, or something along those lines to get the grid to reset.

This will all need better documentation and demonstrations before the main version gets updated.

[elfindreams]

Are you rebuilding the Kethane grid database from the settings menu?

Unfortunately there is really no simple way to automatically transfer SCANsat data back to Kethane without creating even more performance issues. On top of that the Kethane grid display won't update with the SCANsat data even after rebuilding its database; with multiple Kethane resources you can just switch which type is being displayed to get it to reset, but with just Kethane you have to re-load, or switch vessels, or something along those lines to get the grid to reset.

This will all need better documentation and demonstrations before the main version gets updated.

Nice that did it... even with all those steps it is still easier than the stock scanners

Just a suggestion though, put the ability to switch highlighted resources onto big map instead of settings. It seams like switching between resources is something you have to do frequently and settings is a place for things you don't do often at all.

[Ralathon]

Is it possible to adjust the color scheme for a map? I'm playing with RSS and the resulting heightmap for the moon is nearly completely white because most of the landscape is several kilometers above sea level. This makes it hard to spot the orbit lines and markers from an IVA rasterprop map.

[technogeeky]

Is it possible to adjust the color scheme for a map? I'm playing with RSS and the resulting heightmap for the moon is nearly completely white because most of the landscape is several kilometers above sea level. This makes it hard to spot the orbit lines and markers from an IVA rasterprop map.

I'm working on this as we speak. I'm building it in a *very* robust and general way, so it's taking a while. But it will be worth the wait.

[Ralathon]

I'm working on this as we speak. I'm building it in a *very* robust and general way, so it's taking a while. But it will be worth the wait.

Awesome! Thanks.

[BrutalRIP]

can someone please tell me how to add the ability to scan for mks resources to a part. thanks

[Boomerang]

So is anyone else using this dev version with Karbonite and not able to actually see the deposits on the SCANSat map? I've got the latest version and all the relevant options have been added to my SCANSat menus. I can select ORS vs Kethane resourses, I've selected Karbonite, and I've enabled the Karbonite option that appears on the big map along with all the other buttons. I've got a satellite with the Karbonite scanner in orbit and it's showing me the orange spheres that indicate concentrated deposits.

But no matter what other settings I apply in the big map, it won't show me anything regarding Karbonite. I've switched between the types of scans and color/black & white and the map never changes, not even over areas that I've just orbited over with the scanner.

And it's not throwing any sort of error in the debug menu.

So I don't know if perhaps I've mis-installed something in either SCANSat or Karbonite/ORS. But if anyone knows what would cause this behavior, I'd love to know. Ditto if this would be better asked in the Karbonite thread.

[elfindreams]

So is anyone else using this dev version with Karbonite and not able to actually see the deposits on the SCANSat map? I've got the latest version and all the relevant options have been added to my SCANSat menus. I can select ORS vs Kethane resourses, I've selected Karbonite, and I've enabled the Karbonite option that appears on the big map along with all the other buttons. I've got a satellite with the Karbonite scanner in orbit and it's showing me the orange spheres that indicate concentrated deposits.

But no matter what other settings I apply in the big map, it won't show me anything regarding Karbonite. I've switched between the types of scans and color/black & white and the map never changes, not even over areas that I've just orbited over with the scanner.

And it's not throwing any sort of error in the debug menu.

So I don't know if perhaps I've mis-installed something in either SCANSat or Karbonite/ORS. But if anyone knows what would cause this behavior, I'd love to know. Ditto if this would be better asked in the Karbonite thread.

It is not all that clear (but that is what happens when you are dealing with not one but two dev builds ) you need to create a MM config file like:

@PART[Karbonite_Antenna]:FOR[Karbonite]:NEEDS[sCANsat]

{

MODULE

{

name = SCANsat

sensorType = 262144

fov = 4

min_alt = 5000

max_alt = 750000

best_alt = 100000

scanName = Karbonite Scan

power = 0.5

}

}

To create a Karbonite scanner, and then do a scan like you would for any other scanning type. Then you need to go into options, select overlay, ORS, Karbonite. Then on Big map select Karbonite.

[DMagic]

can someone please tell me how to add the ability to scan for mks resources to a part. thanks

Download SCANsat from this thread, download MKS from that thread, use the parts included with the mods, follow the example for ORS scanning found on the first page here.

It is not all that clear (but that is what happens when you are dealing with not one but two dev builds ) you need to create a MM config file like:

If RovedDude doesn't include the config in the Karbonite download then I'll include it here, but I would really prefer that ORS developers handle the scanner modules on their end.

[Boomerang]

It is not all that clear (but that is what happens when you are dealing with not one but two dev builds ) you need to create a MM config file like:

@PART[Karbonite_Antenna]:FOR[Karbonite]:NEEDS[sCANsat]

{

MODULE

{

name = SCANsat

sensorType = 262144

fov = 4

min_alt = 5000

max_alt = 750000

best_alt = 100000

scanName = Karbonite Scan

power = 0.5

}

}

To create a Karbonite scanner, and then do a scan like you would for any other scanning type. Then you need to go into options, select overlay, ORS, Karbonite. Then on Big map select Karbonite.

Here's where I confess that for my reasonable experience with editing cfg files, I've never made a MM patch myself. Would I save that as a specifically-titled cfg file someplace?

Edit: I've looked through the Karbonite folders and I'm a bit out of my depth here, but there doesn't appear to be that sort of SCANsat-specific code either in the karbonite scanner cfg itself or in any other text files. I might be missing something though.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Boomerang

[BrutalRIP]

Download SCANsat from this thread, download MKS from that thread, use the parts included with the mods, follow the example for ORS scanning found on the first page here.

If RovedDude doesn't include the config in the Karbonite download then I'll include it here, but I would really prefer that ORS developers handle the scanner modules on their end.

Yeah it was my own fault really i didnt realize mks was using stock antenna...thanks anyway

[elfindreams]

Here's where I confess that for my reasonable experience with editing cfg files, I've never made a MM patch myself. Would I save that as a specifically-titled cfg file someplace?

Edit: I've looked through the Karbonite folders and I'm a bit out of my depth here, but there doesn't appear to be that sort of SCANsat-specific code either in the karbonite scanner cfg itself or in any other text files. I might be missing something though.

That is the beauty of MM, all you have to do is put it in a .cfg file somewhere in your GameData directory (make a new one named mytweaks.cfg if you want) and done.

[elfindreams]

Hmm Idea time... make it so the scansat buttons are available in the tracking center and have it switch the map based on which body has "focus" so you can go look at maps you have done on other planets even if you don't have anything orbiting them right now and can keep track of progress if you are fast forwarding multiple scans from that location.

[Boomerang]

That is the beauty of MM, all you have to do is put it in a .cfg file somewhere in your GameData directory (make a new one named mytweaks.cfg if you want) and done.

Thank you very kindly, I'll have a play with it.

[RoverDude]

The SCANSat config is now included as part of the Karbonite release. At some point I'll do a video showing how to do this, just to help out and lower the volume of questions from Karbonite/MKS/OKS folks in this thread

Unrelated note - given the upcoming rules changes on data gathering mods, and given that ModStats in it's current implementation does not abide by that, and also given that I expect a large portion of my user base for Karbonite to not want mods with ModStats, I have a two part question.

1. Will ModStats be included in future versions of SCANSat?

2. If so, will there be a download option without the inclusion of ModStats?

My users suggested I bring this up with you, so here I am

[DMagic]

The SCANSat config is now included as part of the Karbonite release. At some point I'll do a video showing how to do this, just to help out and lower the volume of questions from Karbonite/MKS/OKS folks in this thread

Great, let me know about color choices. Sometime I'd like to get some kind of color selection built into the SCANsat ORS resources, preferably through some kind of config file. I think handling the same way that Kethane resources do would work well, just taking an "empty" color and a "full" color and lerping between them based on concentration.

1. Will ModStats be included in future versions of SCANSat?

2. If so, will there be a download option without the inclusion of ModStats?

It's an area of active discussion right now. We'll be turning this dev build into version 8 and releasing that soon in the main thread, so if anything happens it will happen then.

[mecki]

Does SCANsat add SCANsat-ability to my dish antennas? Or is this another mod that adds this?

EDIT: Found out it's MKS…

Edited August 1, 2014 by mecki

[mecki]

I don't get any overlay when I enable the ORS / Karbonite overlay…

[mostlydave]

Please drop the modstats! I don't know about everyone else but I when. I see modstats is included I cringe.

[Mecripp]

With this mod and http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/87335-24-2-Karbonite-Mineable-Burnable-and-Community-Friendly-0-0-11-2014-08-02 installed ScanSat don't work the toolbar icon does'nt do anything and the parts won't deploy, can't get the map to come up and can get the Science points at the launchpad running Linux 64 bit.

EDIT- This is spamming the log

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object

at SCANsat.SCANsat.OnUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at Part.ModulesOnUpdate () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

at Part.Update () [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0

(Filename: Line: 4294967295)

Edited August 2, 2014 by Mecripp2

[Olympic1]

@DMagic

You're making quick progress on GitHub, expecting an update soon.

[RoverDude]

FYI - I just tested the latest build of SCANSat with the current MKS/OKS/Karbonite versions with zero issues.

[DMagic]

@DMagic

You're making quick progress on GitHub, expecting an update soon.

Yep, pretty much ready.

FYI - I just tested the latest build of SCANSat with the current MKS/OKS/Karbonite versions with zero issues.

Not that I expected any issues, but I've been testing this too just to make sure.

The threshold values look good for Karbonite on the planets I've checked so far. I like the detector, too.

[WololoW]

Hey, I see it says MapTraq is depreciated, any plans to add an option so that we will not need a config for MM to add maps to all pods/probes?

@PART
[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand]]
{
    //enables SCANsat maps on all pods and probes//
    MODULE
    {
        name = SCANsat
        sensorType = 0
        fov = 0
        min_alt = 0
        max_alt = 0
        best_alt = 0
        power = 0.05
    }
}

Edited August 4, 2014 by WololoW

[elfindreams]

Hey, I see it says MapTraq is depreciated, any plans to add an option so that we will not need a config for MM to add maps to all pods/probes?

@PART
[*]:HAS[@MODULE[ModuleCommand]]
{
    //enables SCANsat maps on all pods and probes//
    MODULE
    {
        name = SCANsat
        sensorType = 0
        fov = 0
        min_alt = 0
        max_alt = 0
        best_alt = 0
        power = 0.05
    }
}

MapTraq is deprecated because you don't need a config any more to add maps to all pods/probes. The ScanSat button is now available without a part or a special MM config.