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Beale Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 http://img18.rajce.idnes.cz/d1803/11/11509/11509823_4a07bec57533c466448cb56354add4bc/images/tantares.jpg?ver=0Heh! I can't believe that is possible, nice! Solar panels!From CurtquarquessoNeedles to imitate older Soyuz designs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZodiaK Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like the antennas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Ohh! I like the new solar panels! Maybe that way it'll actually fit in the 1.5 metre fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 I like the antennas.Many thanks!Ohh! I like the new solar panels! Maybe that way it'll actually fit in the 1.5 metre fairing.Though that was the idea, they still do not fit perfectly unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidy12 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Nice detail on the Antennas. Definitely include them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Though that was the idea, they still do not fit perfectly unfortunately.Maybe I could just clip them a little further into the SM. It won't hurt anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeguy868 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Heh! I can't believe that is possible, nice! Solar panels!From Curtquarquessohttp://i.imgur.com/7OtQAAM.gifNeedles to imitate older Soyuz designs?http://puu.sh/klpmV/95ff798e54.jpghttp://puu.sh/klpvR/80852c5c87.jpgAdding the antennas somewhat hampers the versatility of the panels, so I'd lean towards leaving them out.Though, the new folding method is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtquarquesso Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 (edited) Glad to help out! On the solar panel antennas...What if there were two distinct styles of Soyuz solar panels? We currently have tracking, and non-tracking. Soyuz solar panels have never been able to track, so why not remove their sun-tracking ability, and make two styles as not to break saves?1. TMA style solar panels: Folds out nice and straight, with tiny, tiny antennae on the solar panel tips.2. 7K-T style solar panels: Folds out kinda wavy and crooked, with long, forward facing antennae, with smaller, trailing antennae facing rearwards. Edited September 23, 2015 by curtquarquesso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyMeToTheMinmus Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I really, reaaly like the idea of those 7k solar panels... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pTrevTrevs Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Heh! I can't believe that is possible, nice! Solar panels!From Curtquarquessohttp://i.imgur.com/7OtQAAM.gifNeedles to imitate older Soyuz designs?http://puu.sh/klpmV/95ff798e54.jpghttp://puu.sh/klpvR/80852c5c87.jpgI like the new stowed configuration, I like the slight crinkle, I like the forward facing needles. The back needles, however, look strange, although I can't put my finger on why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 23, 2015 Author Share Posted September 23, 2015 Glad to help out! On the solar panel antennas...What if there were two distinct styles of Soyuz solar panels? We currently have tracking, and non-tracking. Soyuz solar panels have never been able to track, so why not remove their sun-tracking ability, and make two styles as not to break saves?1. TMA style solar panels: Folds out nice and straight, with tiny, tiny antennae on the solar panel tips.http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2015/03/27/science/space/launch28modules/launch28modules-tmagArticle.png2. 7K-T style solar panels: Folds out kinda wavy and crooked, with long, forward facing antennae, with smaller, trailing antennae facing rearwards.http://space.skyrocket.de/img_sat/soyuz_7k-ok-p__1.jpgPerhaps it is best at this point to make some truly distinct set of panels... I will investigate options The back needles, however, look strange, although I can't put my finger on why.Because they are not accurate at all? It's a shame, but because of limitations the panels have to be symmetrical like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjsnh Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Love those new concept solar panels - but if you go with the 'needles', only use top/forward facing ones to keep with the Soyuz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beale Posted September 24, 2015 Author Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Love those new concept solar panels - but if you go with the 'needles', only use top/forward facing ones to keep with the Soyuz.Sadly not possible, the symmetry works through rotation, not actually mirroring the mesh. I suppose possibly by way of 'LookAt' constraints something could be managed, however not sure if it is worth it.As I have an entire hour trapped in a waiting room, perhaps I can throw out a few ideas of what I'm doing next, in a big not particular order list.- ATV solar panrls, courtesy of CurtQ.- Cygnus++, courtesy of CurtQ- Poisk module.- LK texture cleanup, possible look at splitting ascent / descent.- Finish PPTS.Then, possibly and in no order:- Fobos grunt rework?- More Venera parts (Needed Orbiter)?- Fuji rework?- TKS rework?- Extend Salyut part range (larger Salyut 7 or Almaz panels)?- TMK parts? (Very old idea in thread, look back to early pages).Should keep me occupied (alongside, yknow, life) through to the end of the year Anything I miss? Edited September 24, 2015 by Beale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divico Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Anything I miss?Launch clamps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nothingSpecial Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 If you go for static two-sided panel (unlike usual panels that have to rotate/be rotated with whole craft), they can have foward antennaes, i.e. you can trade real functionality for real overall shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtquarquesso Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) @Beale, with regards to the solar panel antennae, I believe if you animate the panels like normal, then at the last minute make the meshes for your antenna objects children of the end-most panel, it should work out fine. I wouldn't worry about colliders for the antenna. They're primarily aesthetic. There's got to be a way to pull it off. Sounds like a plan. A few other suggestions, mainly cleanup. • Turn the 0.625m APAS-89 into an APAS-75. It'd be the perfect size, and wouldn't be as redundant. • Turn the 1.25m TKS docking probe/drogues into CBMs. I'm currently using the CxAerospace CBMs, and they're great. • There needs to be a smooth way to attach a 0.9375m docking probe onto the end of the TKS docking module. Currently, there are no suitable adapters. It's always a bit awkward. • Mir 6-Way node needs some help. It's always been a bit funky. Even if it meant more polygons, could it be made more spherical? End-caps for it are also a must. • Gemini needs some help as well. Its sizing is a bit awkward, and it's docking probe needs a counterpart. We don't need a bespoke Agena as you can already make that, but it's docking port is somewhat needed. If you do decide to make any changes, refer to my scaling guide for it a few pages back. I think that's everything I can think of. I'll almost always prefer polish and part culling over new stuff. Heh. Edited September 24, 2015 by curtquarquesso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minepagan Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 @Beale, with regards to the solar panel antennae, I believe if you animate the panels like normal, then at the last minute make the meshes for your antenna objects children of the end-most panel, it should work out fine. I wouldn't worry about colliders for the antenna. They're primarily aesthetic. There's got to be a way to pull it off. I've seen that done before....infact, you could animate the antennas separately from the panels. I think(?) it was HGR or Bobcat's Soviet pack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) I've seen that done before....infact, you could animate the antennas separately from the panels. I think(?) it was HGR or Bobcat's Soviet pack....HGR's. It is not sun-tracking but makes up for it by being double sided. Bobcat's was single sided, static, and without antennae. Raidernick used static panels with static antennae. Edited September 24, 2015 by Jack Wolfe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
passinglurker Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) As I have an entire hour trapped in a waiting room, perhaps I can throw out a few ideas of what I'm doing next,Well naturally I'd reiterate what I said about adding an R5 0.9m rocket to the LV pack and changing the SAS and tech tree balance to hopefully make early game a little more clean but as for the answers you are actually looking for... in a big not particular order list.- ATV solar panrls, courtesy of CurtQ.- Cygnus++, courtesy of CurtQ- Poisk module.- LK texture cleanup, possible look at splitting ascent / descent.- Finish PPTS.Since they seem to be done and well received I see no harm in implementing CQ's parts next. the poisk module would seem to be just as fast to implement considering the speed you turned those progress modules out.LK I'm not so sure is necessary it's currently functional, fitting, and IVA'd to boot, and since its hardware that never flew one can argue we can be looser with the historical accuracy and all. If anything it can wait in favor of expanding and fixing part sets that are less far along first......Like PPTS for example though my focus on the left end of the tree recently means I haven't given it much thought. Then, possibly and in no order:- Fobos grunt rework?- More Venera parts (Needed Orbiter)?- Fuji rework?- TKS rework?- Extend Salyut part range (larger Salyut 7 or Almaz panels)?- TMK parts? (Very old idea in thread, look back to early pages).I don't use fobos enough to say if it needs a reworkvenera's texture sheet is looking pretty empty and the parts would be useful for other soviet science probes due to their modular seeming natureFuji sounds fun with you saying you may go wild speculating with it and it looks a bit dated and out of place at present(it's like the only one with a separate heat shield).TKS rework for similar reasons to LK doesn't seem all that necessary. Maybe the IVA's? A future revamp wouldn't change the dimensions so they'd be future proof right?There are even more salyut parts in real life!? TMK only existed as concepts that widely varied in appearance. If they ever got around to actually building it then probably (like going wild with the japanese Fuji speculation and blending with real HTV) the russian TMK probably would have just wound up being made out of real surplus Salyut and TKS bits like Mir and the ISS russian segment so only thing we'd really need is some form of plausible large interplanetary propulsion (be it conventional, NTR, or electric)EDIT: Oh! oooooor you could make a new larger than salyut station part or parts that cover TMK, skylab, and the apollo applications venus flyby all in one set! still using saylut mir and tks parts with a new propulsion set would probably be easier and get much the same effect. Edited September 24, 2015 by passinglurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Launch clamps?Yes! Please include launch clamps and towers! It would just give that complete finish to the rockets, and there's such a limited amount of mods that add in launch clamps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Divico Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 Yes! Please include launch clamps and towers! It would just give that complete finish to the rockets, and there's such a limited amount of mods that add in launch clamps!I'm working on the towers myself (and a bit around it) but I haven't done an actual part yet. I hope Beale will do it... Tantares-sized Launchpad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenomousRequiem Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 I'm working on the towers myself (and a bit around it) but I haven't done an actual part yet. I hope Beale will do it... Tantares-sized Launchpad:http://i.imgur.com/0q2mkYC.jpg?1Oh, I like that! Is that released with the current version of Kosmodrome, because I feel that that's a must have for Tantares! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hraban Posted September 24, 2015 Share Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) Hello Beale, I'd like to add your works by less model-bound parts. A handful of parts as a preview. I work hard on the textures.2.50m Pod like Tucana named BTG Adv. II (BTG = Besatzungs Transport Gerät)1.875m SAS and Battery ComboInGame promohttp://imgur.com/a/oMZpf/all Edited September 25, 2015 by hraban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helmseye Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 thank you so much, since I heard of KSP I have dreamed of making something similar to a soviet space programme now I can do it for realthank you thank you thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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