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[1.12.X] Tantares - Stockalike Soyuz and MIR [16.1][28.05.2024][Mars Expedition WIP]


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35 minutes ago, VenomousRequiem said:

The texture on the new ATV is so boring though... I think it's fine the way it is. 

7 minutes ago, NeoFatalis said:

Yeah the textures of the new ATV are kinda boring when you compare it to the current one , the new ones look to me like some generic fuel tank:P

Here are old and new side-by-side.

The old part certainly does not look bad, considering its age. But, there are a few problem:

  • Too high texture density.
  • Thermal blanket textures look poor, "thermal sweater vest" more like.
  • Old part will look wrong next to new Porkjet stock parts.

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55 minutes ago, Beale said:

Here are old and new side-by-side.

The old part certainly does not look bad, considering its age. But, there are a few problem:

  • Too high texture density.
  • Thermal blanket textures look poor, "thermal sweater vest" more like.
  • Old part will look wrong next to new Porkjet stock parts.

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While you do make a good point, I do agree with Venom that the new texture just looks... bland.

I suggest adding some color to it. Make it pop.

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46 minutes ago, Danny88 said:

Now you have me wanting to launch a ATV with THIS as the flag decal.

Do it, and I'll put it in the Album (alongside your Mun lander).

28 minutes ago, Third_OfFive said:

While you do make a good point, I do agree with Venom that the new texture just looks... bland.

I suggest adding some color to it. Make it pop.

The old classic! :wink: 

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I am joking, I think there is a lot of work to be done on the appearance of the ATV.
Maybe Cygnus colour?

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I did find this picture of a V-2.

It makes me wonder if KSP in general is too grey

@captainradish It's the problem with modular design. Brightly coloured parts are more difficult to use in multiple designs of crafts.

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Question: are there any grey or dark grey fairings that go well with Tantares parts? I do not have tweakscale configured for Tantares, so I cannot use those fairings for larger launch vehicles. Any tips on how to do that?

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2 minutes ago, Danny88 said:

Question: are there any grey or dark grey fairings that go well with Tantares parts? I do not have tweakscale configured for Tantares, so I cannot use those fairings for larger launch vehicles. Any tips on how to do that?

There's a Tantares fairing collection on CKAN. I don't remember what it's called, though.

 

Edit: it's called Tantares Fairing Extension and it's here: 

 

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2 minutes ago, Danny88 said:

BURNS-VEST (Biological Universal, Return Natural Science - Vehicle, Electronic Supply Transfer) mission setup. 

 

Glad to be of help. :D

 

My current campaign I'm still launching cheap com satellites.

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7 minutes ago, captainradish said:

Glad to be of help. :D

 

My current campaign I'm still launching cheap com satellites.

On 1.1.2 I'm doing a fair number of Kerbin system missions couple of asteroid fly-bys, no major planet missions yet other than probes.

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1 minute ago, Danny88 said:

On 1.1.2 I'm doing a fair number of Kerbin system missions couple of asteroid fly-bys, no major planet missions yet other than probes.

Remotetech is fun, but damn does it require a lot of infrastructure. I've gotten pretty good at setting up Molniya orbits, though.

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6 hours ago, Beale said:

Do it, and I'll put it in the Album (alongside your Mun lander).

The old classic! :wink: 

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I am joking, I think there is a lot of work to be done on the appearance of the ATV.
Maybe Cygnus colour?

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@captainradish It's the problem with modular design. Brightly coloured parts are more difficult to use in multiple designs of crafts.

Nice :D

One last suggestion

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I would modify the bottom bit to look more like the old one. And maybe add a window or to on the top.

Again, I'm only suggesting. The choice is up to you.

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15 minutes ago, Jack Wolfe said:

I love mashing up the different space programmes. It's surprising how well it works.

I love mashing up different space programs too!  I do it by crashing them into the same crater. Works surprising well.  :cool:

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3 hours ago, Third_OfFive said:

Nice :D

One last suggestion

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I would modify the bottom bit to look more like the old one. And maybe add a window or to on the top.

Again, I'm only suggesting. The choice is up to you.

Yeah, I agree. I never liked those tiles on the bottom...

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On 6/3/2016 at 8:52 AM, Beale said:

Alternate texture for the Soyuz? Per request of @MrMeeb

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Just my personal preference, but can you do this new texture for Soyuz AND keep the old grey texture in the alternate configs folder? I would still like to have the all grey version for early R-7 versions (Sputnik, Molniya, etc.) and then this version for Soyuz flights.

On 6/3/2016 at 11:50 AM, Beale said:

I have a few suggestions:

  • Ariane 5
    • I wholeheartedly agree it needs an upper stage, preferably all of versions flown or planned :wink:.
    • I also think that 3.125m would be a good size for Ariane 5, and 1.875m for the boosters.
  • ATV
    • Rivets and indents are always nice visually, something to somehow make the blanketed part pop...
    • I like the Cygnus color, that  tan color could be your standard for "cargo craft"
  • Colors
    • Yellow for Mono propellant is established and possibly Cygnus Tan for Cargo,
    • Maybe Orange for Soyuz related LFO parts
    • Maybe Red highlights on Proton LFO parts (to represent the different type of IRL fuel, even though it is still an LFO in game?)
    • Blue highlights on parachute parts?
  • Soyuz 2-1v
    • I would really like to see a fuel tank for the core stage of the Soyuz that is shorter for no booster configurations like the Soyuz 2-1v. Tantares already has the tank on the left and the one I'd like to also see in Tantares is the on the right. DH5LnFT.jpg
    • Who knows, maybe some sort of NK-33/RD-191/RD-181 engine can also be made for such rockets...

Keep up the great work Beale, and most importantly, do what you want to do next.

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How does one go about producing the L3 Moon Expedition Complex (the moon landy thingie part of the N1, hence the name N1-L3)? I know all of the parts are there, but I don't know how to build the LK Lander, or the stage below Blok D, or the Soyuz 7K LOK. Does anybody know how to build this?

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On 6/5/2016 at 7:12 PM, OTmikhail said:

 

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Who knows, maybe some sort of NK-33/RD-191/RD-181 engine can also be made for such rockets...

Nice suggestions!

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For the thin Soyuz, it is a possibility, but not a priority.

4 hours ago, Joeybafoey said:

How does one go about producing the L3 Moon Expedition Complex (the moon landy thingie part of the N1, hence the name N1-L3)? I know all of the parts are there, but I don't know how to build the LK Lander, or the stage below Blok D, or the Soyuz 7K LOK. Does anybody know how to build this?

Here is a craft file.

 

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