1/10 Stock System Config for RSS

[INSULINt]

Anyone tried this with the mod that adds all the extra runways and landmarks?

[Whirligig Girl]

Anyone tried this with the mod that adds all the extra runways and landmarks?

That sounds like a horrible idea. I should try it.

[Deadpangod3]

i know the cause of the bumpiness, basically,

the planet is too small.

Detail:

when you have a smaller planet, the heightmap has less area to spread out the mountains/hills/etc., so a tiny hill could be turned into a large hill, or in this case, mountains, BIG mountains.

i would imagine the solution would be editing the heightmap to make the mountains lower, but i havnt tried this, as i would probably screw this up, but what i know so far i discovered while making asteroids for my asteroid belt pack for planet factory.

[wasmic]

i know the cause of the bumpiness, basically,

the planet is too small.

Detail:

when you have a smaller planet, the heightmap has less area to spread out the mountains/hills/etc., so a tiny hill could be turned into a large hill, or in this case, mountains, BIG mountains.

i would imagine the solution would be editing the heightmap to make the mountains lower, but i havnt tried this, as i would probably screw this up, but what i know so far i discovered while making asteroids for my asteroid belt pack for planet factory.

AFAIK there's no heightmap for Kerbin. It's procedurally generated by the game.

[Norpo]

I wonder how small one could make it with the game still being playable? (not including balance, of course it's going to be imbalanced as hail)

1%?

0.1%?

What's the "you can make a rocket that's the size of the planet if you try hard enough" limit?

This begs further research!

[NathanKell]

AFAIK there's no heightmap for Kerbin.

false

It's procedurally generated by the game.

true.

The heightmap is just one of the "mods" applied to Kerbin's terrain; there are many others, and they're all based on noise functions. The actual mesh itself, too, is procedural, just some of the information used to create it (the base heightmap) is non-procedural.

Sounds like the deformity of the heightmap, and the frequency and deformity of the other PQSMods, needs to be changed.

[Whirligig Girl]

I wonder how small one could make it with the game still being playable? (not including balance, of course it's going to be imbalanced as hail)

1%?

0.1%?

What's the "you can make a rocket that's the size of the planet if you try hard enough" limit?

This begs further research!

Someone definitely needs to try and make a 1% Scale config for this. KSC would be perched on top of a hill or something, but it would totally be worth it just to be able to hug Gilly.

[Whirligig Girl]

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[gmpd2000]

What about the 0.1% config?

[Thunderous Echo]

What about the 0.1% config?

I decided to punch some numbers into my calculator.

Original image: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/34082-Planet-Size-Comparison-Graphic

If I had drawn the runway, it would be the width of the image.

Obviously, we need this.

Also, Gilly would be 26 mk1 lander cans in diameter.

[EDIT] I just realized I drew the VAB on Laythe. The size is correct, though.

Edited February 4, 2015 by Thunderous Echo

[Thunderous Echo]

While playing with this pack, I accidentally escaped Kerbin while trying to fly a plane.

[Whirligig Girl]

So why isn't anyone making a 1/100 scale config? Is it hard to get the pqs settings right? If so, how can that be fixed?

[Whirligig Girl]

1% Config test:

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Very fun at first, but then, well, I'll quote what I said on Reddit about this.

You can try mixing around with the settings in the 1/10 stock system config for RSS, that's just what I've done. Be here be Krakens. Hell Krakens. I tried launching (after having flatened the terrain) and I got an instant-ish hell kraken.

Actually, it seems like it only hell kraken'd once! Flying into orbit in a rocket now!

Actually 2: It then hell-krashed when I tried pulling a turn sideways to land at KSC2, which lies on a large, snowy white hill. I wonder why this happens.

[Norpo]

1% Config test:

Now, the true test.

Hyperedit something to Gilly.

Try to cover it up with structural plates.

[Nicholander]

GregroxMun, please, PLEASE do a 0.1% config test. And then go to Gilly. Awesomeness awaits.

[_Augustus_]

How about a 0.01% config with a 0.6km Kerbin?

That would be the most awesome dumb thing ever.

[Thunderous Echo]

At those kinds of scales, you run into the problem that gravity is calculated from the root part, not from each part separately.

Why do I know this? Well... I've built some megameter-long crafts in my day.

Also, I seriously doubt KSP could handle that to begin with.

[gmpd2000]

How about a 0.01% config with a 0.6km Kerbin?

That would be the most awesome dumb thing ever.

That would be a 0.06 km (60m!) Kerbin.

Awesome.

[Thunderous Echo]

That's 60 Mk1 lander cans stacked end to end. Kerbin would be smaller then the VAB.

[BFGfreak]

Well on the bright side a space elevator would be easy to make at that scale.

[Thunderous Echo]

Well on the bright side a space elevator would be easy to make at that scale.

Build a space elevator? Naw, man, just use the runway.

[Whirligig Girl]

What if we just removed planets entirely from the game and made "planets" into on-rails objects with gravity, but like PQScity objects made from 3D models instead of procedural/heightmaps. For scales like 120m Kerbin, for instance. It would remove the scaledspace camera clipping, the weird terrain, all of that unfortunate stuff.

Although that isn't much of a RSS config, more of a completely different mod.

Maybe more worth it to remake Science of the Spheres

[Thunderous Echo]

What if we just removed planets entirely from the game and made "planets" into on-rails objects with gravity, but like PQScity objects made from 3D models instead of procedural/heightmaps. For scales like 120m Kerbin, for instance. It would remove the scaledspace camera clipping, the weird terrain, all of that unfortunate stuff.

Although that isn't much of a RSS config, more of a completely different mod.

Maybe more worth it to remake Science of the Spheres

So, like this?

This is just the Mun as a part (like any command pod or fuel tank). It doesn't have gravity and it isn't on rails, but we're getting closer.