Emilio Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 Hum... i didn\'t found the sources from C7 (i wanted to see how it works)...About the folding wings, you should reduce lift when folded, check the MuMech Toggle family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketscienist Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 It´s awesome. When NovaSilisko is ready with the re-entry heat plugin it should have a heatshield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilio Posted April 5, 2012 Share Posted April 5, 2012 I totally agree about that heatshield.One more thing on the folding wings : if you fold them mid-air IRL, they would be ripped apart, right ? So, in your folding system, you should include something like this :override OnGetKeyDown('yourFoldingKey'){//Do your folding system hereset drag = 99999set breakingForce = 1set breakingTorque = 1}If folded on ground on in space, no problem. But in flight, the huge drag created combined with the low breaking force and torque, will rip the wings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trbinsc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Well, it depends on the way they fold, some folding wings work perfectly well in flight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilio Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 ? ? ? What aircraft does fold wings in flight ?Well, my only example is the IL-2 series, where the Corsair and all other carrier planes doesn\'t like folding them in air... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trbinsc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 I can\'t remember what plane it was, but its wings rotated 90º before it achieved supersonic velocities to minimize drag. Also, SpaceShip One\'s wings folded after it was slowed down in the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emilio Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Rotating 90°, don\'t you mean Variable Geometry Wings ? \'cause some aircrafts like the Rockwell B1-B rotates their wings in flight.About SpaceShipOne, i don\'t know exactly...Yeah, i think it depends on the folding system... The WW2 planes were in metal+tissue, and they weren\'t originally intended to fold their wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trbinsc Posted April 6, 2012 Share Posted April 6, 2012 Yeah, a WW2 plane would definitely fall apart if it had folding wings in flight. But I\'m pretty sure a plane that\'s designed to do it would have no trouble at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 6, 2012 Author Share Posted April 6, 2012 Hey.I think trbinsc is thinking about the B-70 Valkyrie. It had wings that rotated 90º downward, when It entered supersonic flight. Unfortunately it had a collision with a F-104 in a photo shoot, and the project was cancelled. For my shuttle with folding wing. I have that weird Idea that use the folding wing, for use at reentry, so the shuttle dos not go nose first when enter atmosphere. But keep a natural 40~50º reentry attitude. But if it actually will work, I dont know.And the reentry heat. Looks really good. And the shuttle Im making has actually the wing in 1 mesh. So I can use that as shield. And will not have any problem implement that.And of course a little update from me Will note, there is not much detail in the textures. But that is something Ill make on later update of the shuttle. Just want to finish the model, and make it flyable first. before I finish up all texture details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynorus Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Very nice, Anariaq. You\'re a lot farther than I am (Still modeling), and you\'re doing good. The problem? I\'m a programmer, not a modeler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustymcclintock Posted April 7, 2012 Share Posted April 7, 2012 Many thanks, though could look better if I knew how to texture properlymaybe ask a more experience modder if they would lend a hand? if all they need do is help you slap a badass texture on there it might not be unreasonable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 7, 2012 Author Share Posted April 7, 2012 maybe ask a more experience modder if they would lend a hand? if all they need do is help you slap a badass texture on there it might not be unreasonable?Could be a solution. But really want to learn more how to do textures. So right now I want to do it my self. But maybe later if I give up Ill start to ask around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 Some update. Finally got away long enough from KSP to finish some UV and texturing.The DoorThe mount and fuel for sec. engines.And finally the main wing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketscienist Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It´s really really cool. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mynorus Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 9, 2012 Author Share Posted April 9, 2012 It´s really really cool. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)Wow.Thanks!Don\'t have any update. Just me fooling around, and made some shots of all the finished parts. Can see that I need to fix the wing texture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodog Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 oh god yes. please get even an experimental out so i can look at it lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmat Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 YEP, This is coming along real good. Will definitely be keeping an eye on the progress and waiting (im)patiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketscienist Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 The windows are small. Can you show how big it will be? Compare it with a normal Fuel tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 10, 2012 Author Share Posted April 10, 2012 YEP, This is coming along real good. Will definitely be keeping an eye on the progress and waiting (im)patiently.oh god yes. please get even an experimental out so i can look at it lolHey I\'m planning on releasing the shuttle alone, As experimental. To find as much bugs. While you guys testing it. Ill finish up the rest of the parts. But at this moment. Im not finished with the shuttle yet.The windows are small. Can you show how big it will be? Compare it with a normal Fuel tank.Hey added a fueltanks same size as the standard, in one of the pics. And updated some few things. Winglet and control surface.EDIT.fixed the error in the wing texture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketscienist Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 OK thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trustme2 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 I\'m really looking forward to this craft! Reminds me a bit of X-33/Venture star from CardBoardBoxProcessorhttp://kerbalspaceprogram.com/forum/index.php?topic=4604.420 (page 29 and up) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko dash Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 this is looking amazing, if it flys anywhere as good as it looks it will be the best shuttle made so far.ps: would you mind helping me with a simple livery for x-plane? this is the favorite of all my custom aircraft and it deserves better than flat grey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anariaq Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 this is looking amazing, if it flys anywhere as good as it looks it will be the best shuttle made so far.ps: would you mind helping me with a simple livery for x-plane? this is the favorite of all my custom aircraft and it deserves better than flat grey.Hey what version of X-Plane are you using? it will be a little problematic to help you, if you are using X-Plane 10.x Right now I only have 9 and at current state. I cant get my hands on version10... yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko dash Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 9 for me also, 10 is out of my reach due to cost. and my computer is getting old and didn\'t handle the demo too well.the aircraft is a large mach 3 SST utilizing the power of 6 of the massive GE-4 (63,000lbs in full afterburner) engines, I\'ve been tinkering with it for over a year trying to get intercontinental range, while still keeping the performance for mach 3 while being able to use current international airports.i\'ve never been able to do the textures though, best i could do was a white paintjob with a pinstripe. but even something that simple i couldn\'t make look right due to the way x-plane tries to wrap a flat image over a complex ovaloid shape, and don\'t even get me started on how bad the cockpit turned out.to not make this post completely off topic.rather than trying to fit the little shuttle in the big one\'s bay, how about carrying it piggyback like the SR-71/D-21 or the proposed B-70/X-15 delta. to problems the D-21 had shouldn\'t happen if you detach out of the atmosphere.if .15 allows for everything we think it will the combo of the two might be able to do runway to orbit without any extra boosters, maybe make it so that you can extend the fuselage of the big one with some extra tanks and other optional parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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