plasmeus Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 (edited) So the problem is in weight..... that explains why fuel tank about the same size as a procedural interstage installed between engine and tank didnt wobble. Maybe changing part weight in cfg file can help?Yeah that would probably fix it. Now that I think of it, it is almost certainly because of the top decoupler has too much mass.Edit: Also, the extra mass is probably the reason the cover "sticks" to the capsule after being jettisoned. Edited December 1, 2014 by plasmeus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miximix Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi everyone! For some reason, after installing all the necessary mods via ckan, the game stops loading parts at around 3/4 of the way and the line shows the next: ProceduralParts/ZOtherMods/RFSRB/proceduralISRBRealFuels. I was trying to use x64 bit version. Is it some kind of incompatibility problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwaster Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Yeah that would probably fix it. Now that I think of it, it is almost certainly because of the top decoupler has too much mass.If you find that decreasing decoupler mass leads to part wobbling, you might want to think about de-physicalizing the part. (PhysicsSignificance = 1)I've done that with several problematic parts including the 5 meter KWR decouplers and haven't regretted it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandcando Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 I found another visual mod that looks awesome, but lightweight. Check out Collision FXI thought it might be an interesting inclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender222 Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 Hi everyone! For some reason, after installing all the necessary mods via ckan, the game stops loading parts at around 3/4 of the way and the line shows the next: ProceduralParts/ZOtherMods/RFSRB/proceduralISRBRealFuels. I was trying to use x64 bit version. Is it some kind of incompatibility problem?What you could do is go manualy delete that specific part and try again but I'll stop you there. It is explicity written here and on several of the dependent mods that it does not work in x64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miximix Posted December 1, 2014 Share Posted December 1, 2014 What you could do is go manualy delete that specific part and try again but I'll stop you there. It is explicity written here and on several of the dependent mods that it does not work in x64.So, it's better not even try to run RSS on x64, right? Because on x32 game starts nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felger Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 If you find that decreasing decoupler mass leads to part wobbling, you might want to think about de-physicalizing the part. (PhysicsSignificance = 1)I've done that with several problematic parts including the 5 meter KWR decouplers and haven't regretted it once.My only wish is that de-physicsing a part didn't remove its mass from the rocket. Ah well, c'est la vie. I have carefully gone over the FASA apollo cm config to try to find the cause of its reentry problems. based on some quick calculations I did the mass for the capsule itself seems about right but I am not sure if the top decoupler has been included or not in the mass. It is either that, or the center of mass is off. Or worse still its aerodynamics could be off.This should be fixed in the next release. **fingers crossed**I would gladly help! Also I am working on an entire Delta series of launchers pack for KSP. Currently in the modeling phase! So, I think the best pack, if you're still interested, would be the US Probes pack, since the Delta series put a few of those in orbit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felger Posted December 1, 2014 Author Share Posted December 1, 2014 So, it's better not even try to run RSS on x64, right? Because on x32 game starts nicelyThat's correct. Unfortunately, the windows 64-bit version is horribly unstable, so most modders don't feel like sorting out the difference between actual bugs, and inherent-to-ksp-64-being-unstable bugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Well, or you could use DX11 mode ("-force-d3d11-no-singlethreaded -popupwindow"), ask NathanKell for a 64bit RSS and download the rest from the unofficial forks thread. That'd leave you without RealChutes, but the game is playable without them and there's the Landertron XT plugin for all your propulsive landing needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanKell Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 And then receive no support from any of us, because there's nothing we can do to help you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Of course, that's at your own risk, but as far as I'm concerned, it works. Might be the only way to run RSS with memory to spare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JT2227 Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Gentleman. I believe we have a problem. My spacecraft weighs a multiple of planet Earth's Weight. 2.25x10^25 Kilograms. Earth weighs 5.9x10^24. I'm pretty sure this is a bug, that or Earth would probably be destroyed by the gravitational forces... Every time I hit "Return to launch pad" I think the rocket's weight grew exponentially...The culprit, is the procedural separator, and it seems to be the part that grows in mass. Has anyone else seen this problem?Mass (ive) problem: http://imgur.com/a/dxWNFOutput_log.txt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzwBQu9jNY8cT01sWGpNUnpzZGs/view?usp=sharingCraft File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzwBQu9jNY8cTUJHMXpfdXlOQlU/view?usp=sharingAnd thanks for the amazing mod with amusing failures! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyR Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 AutoPruner - UI version.COMING SOONâ„¢-----*whisper*@Felger - The link to the first DevBuild has been sent to your forum's mailbox.#BuildTheHype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felger Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 AWESOME!Request: Can you move the 'apply' button to the lower right hand corner to make it more apparent that nothing is actually done until you hit 'apply'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felger Posted December 2, 2014 Author Share Posted December 2, 2014 It's a very good thing you don't have Principia installed. You'd royally screw up the orbital path of the Moon with antics like that!That is a very strange bug, first glance, the Ares CTV's procedural parts are throwing a boatload of NullRef Exceptions when you load it up. Have you tried updating Procedural Parts? (No idea if the new version solves any of that kind of issue) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BevoLJ Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 Felgar, the changes to the list in the OP (/u,/i) are fantastic. Perfect. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANWRocketMan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 (edited) Gentleman. I believe we have a problem. My spacecraft weighs a multiple of planet Earth's Weight. 2.25x10^25 Kilograms. Earth weighs 5.9x10^24. I'm pretty sure this is a bug, that or Earth would probably be destroyed by the gravitational forces... Every time I hit "Return to launch pad" I think the rocket's weight grew exponentially...The culprit, is the procedural separator, and it seems to be the part that grows in mass. Has anyone else seen this problem?Mass (ive) problem: http://imgur.com/a/dxWNFOutput_log.txt: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzwBQu9jNY8cT01sWGpNUnpzZGs/view?usp=sharingCraft File: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzwBQu9jNY8cTUJHMXpfdXlOQlU/view?usp=sharingAnd thanks for the amazing mod with amusing failures!TweakScale does that I noticed. The solution I found was to launch with it, and then revert to the VAB and the mass resets itself to a proper more reasonable amount. This happens with practically ALL the tweakscalable parts. Structural parts and everything do the same. Edited December 2, 2014 by ANWRocketMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jandcando Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 TweakScale does that I noticed. The solution I found was to launch with it, and then revert to the VAB and the mass resets itself to a proper more reasonable amount. This happens with practically ALL the tweakscalable parts. Structural parts and everything do the same.http://i.imgur.com/Bz3duVR.pngNo clue how to help you, but I have to say that this is a fascinating bug! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANWRocketMan Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I'm not the one with the issue. Guy on previous page had more or less the same problem. You can get around it by launching and reverting to the VAB. I'm not sure whether it's TweakScale or the RO configs that add TweakScale to these parts. Not too big an issue, honestly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gryphorim Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I am having an issue getting RO to install using CKAN puffy planet. It downloads the required mods, then begins to list the mods it's installing, then just says it's done, and nothing is installed! I've tried rolling back to the last stable version of CKAN, but it wouldn't even boot up. I then rerolled to puffy planet and tried to install one-by-one, and for some reason cannot get FAR to install, is this a clue, or the same bug? How do I get it to work?FYI, I am using a clean install, moved away from my steam install, with the CKAN install path updated to suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miximix Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I haven't played RSS for some months and i see a lot has changed. As i can see, no engines packs (RTFS, realengines) are required anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hattivat Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 I haven't played RSS for some months and i see a lot has changed. As i can see, no engines packs (RTFS, realengines) are required anymore?No, Realism Overhaul succeeded realengines, and is now an engine pack in and of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miximix Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 No, Realism Overhaul succeeded realengines, and is now an engine pack in and of itself.But looks like the've changed engine stats. As for LR-89 - earlier it was a 2m engine with 840 ish thrust, but now it's 1,6m (although written 2m) and has 750 thrust. This completely messes up my 2m launchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingopete Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 No, Realism Overhaul succeeded realengines, and is now an engine pack in and of itself.I was wandering the same thing, this makes allot more sense now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZaPPPa Posted December 2, 2014 Share Posted December 2, 2014 TweakScale does that I noticed. The solution I found was to launch with it, and then revert to the VAB and the mass resets itself to a proper more reasonable amount. This happens with practically ALL the tweakscalable parts. Structural parts and everything do the same.He's right. I have also noticed that if you use the little '>' and '>>' icons, everything scales up properly (most of the time), but with some components using the actual slider to tweak the scale blows up values like ejection force to massive numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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