The old-times challenge

[Australian Sloth]

Well, this is a challenge for the manly and brave, whilst still being easy and non complex.

A throwback to the early days of ksp where there was no fuel lines, rcs or asas.

This is more of a challange for those who have never had the satisfaction of completing a full orbit or twelve.

Task: Complete an orbit of kerbin with the following restraints:

Stock parts only

No rcs or asas. Only SAS.

No fuel lines

No orbital view

No addons at all.

Only srb\'s can be attached to radial decouplers

Bonus points for landing on the light side of kerbin and landing on land

[sal_vager]

This is something I have been meaning to do since I learned there used to be no map, I\'m getting so used to flying without ASAS now that I managed it on my second attempt.

Here\'s the ship I used.

The Matchstick

Here\'s the rest of the flight

At Apoapsis, I normally aim for 70k

Periapsis, I went around again to Apoapsis before reducing speed by 10m/s

De-orbiting over the day side, I thrust straight down to change the angle of my flight

Splashdown in the sun, this challenge was harder than I thought it would be, it\'s easy to become reliant on the map

Edited for spelling

[iamwearingpants]

If you want to experience 0.7.3 you might want to add no LFE-45, and no stacking tanks as another level. \'Twas truly hard to orbit with that.

[sal_vager]

Anything else? what about having a tank then a stack decoupler then another tank?

Can I put stack decouplers on the srb\'s?

[TNTGODZZ]

challenge accepted. brb will post when done.

EDIT: should we NOT have gimballing engines? just sayin they were implemented around the time of orbital view.

[semininja]

No gimbaling engines sounds like a good restriction to have.

[Causeless]

If you want to experience 0.7.3 you might want to add no LFE-45, and no stacking tanks as another level. \'Twas truly hard to orbit with that.

Haha, I remember that...

I never once managed orbit until 0.8 and above.

[Tim_Barrett]

When was the atmosphere turned from a brick wall into a larger, but more smoothed out area?

It used to end right at 34.5km

[Causeless]

When was the atmosphere turned from a brick wall into a larger, but more smoothed out area?

It used to end right at 34.5km

Changed with 0.10.1.

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

I could get my 0.9.0 game out for a while and play around on that. Take some pics?

[Guest]

I could get my 0.9.0 game out for a while and play around on that. Take some pics?

Sweet. Do it.

[Causeless]

I could get my 0.9.0 game out for a while and play around on that. Take some pics?

But that has struts, don\'t be silly!

0.8 is the earliest I have... I wonder if anyone can find the first released version online.

[Linchowlewy]

additionally R8 winglets didn\'t pivot way back when, so using them for suborbital control would be cheating.

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

But that has struts, don\'t be silly!

0.8 is the earliest I have... I wonder if anyone can find the first released version online.

You can just not use struts.

[Girlinhat]

I used to orbit all the time without ANY of that stuff. Back in my day, you got a nav-ball and a few kerbals strapped to explosives, and you made an orbit out of it! Had my tables written up to mark what speed I wanted, no map meant you had to fly by knowledge and instruments.

[semininja]

I used to orbit all the time without ANY of that stuff. Back in my day, you got a nav-ball and a few kerbals strapped to explosives, and you made an orbit out of it! Had my tables written up to mark what speed I wanted, no map meant you had to fly by knowledge and instruments.

I used to circularize my orbits by burning straight down to cancel out vertical speed, then adjusting orbital velocity to see how close to 34.5km I could get without deorbiting...

Oh, version 0.8, how much fun you were...

[Guest GroundHOG-2010]

I used to circularize my orbits by burning straight down to cancel out vertical speed, then adjusting orbital velocity to see how close to 34.5km I could get without deorbiting...

Oh, version 0.8, how much fun you were...

Agreed. That was a real challange compared to what we have now.

[Girlinhat]

I got mechjeb and almost got a pure SRB orbit working. Oh how things are generally much easier now...

[GOOMH]

Trying this out now. Currently I\'m waiting to see what my Ap is so I can calculate my Pe. It\'s kinda nice to do it this way because it makes up for me failing to orbit in 0.10.

EDIT: Done! after 20 minutes of waiting I final achieved my Ap which was 101,476 m which put my Pe at 58,313 m. I feel so good right now lets wait it out to see how unstable my Pe is.

[Girlinhat]

58k km is within atmosphere, you\'ll be aerobraking at that height, unless you\'re in an older version with 35k atmosphere shell.

[GOOMH]

58k km is within atmosphere, you\'ll be aerobraking at that height, unless you\'re in an older version with 35k atmosphere shell.

Oh I know but at that height it\'ll take around 10 or so passes before it gets low enough to become sub orbital.

[SteevyT]

I don\'t remember whether this was the one that reached escape or orbit. I know it was capable of one of them and returning the crew safely though.

[maltesh]

Ah, those were the days. I wound up working out a table that would give the minimum velocity to miss the atmosphere at apoapsis, then eventually wound up turning it into a program that, given your altitude and speed at two points ten seconds apart, would work out your position in your orbit and draw it for you. Learned a heck of a lot about orbital mechanics doing that.

[foamyesque]

I can very nearly do a Mun mission with these requirements... Only issue is the map, I\'d need to go dig out some calculators instead.

[Zephram Kerman]

This thread sounds kinda like grandpa Simpson lying about when he was an astronaut.

You kids had it easy! Why, back in my day, if we wanted an orbit we had to work for it. There were no fancy \'rooster bockets\', no \'stability\' thingamabob, no parachutes; we had to walk to orbit, up hill, right through the slabosphere, both ways if we were lucky. And we were grateful! We were happy to have it! We were happy because nothing like this had ever been done before. (falls asleep, and dreams of Goddard Kerman)

Makes me appreciate KSP even more. Thanks again, Squad! 8) O//