[WIP] KopernicusTech - An integration attempt between Kopernicus and KittopiaTech (v0.13 - 03/26/15)

_Augustus_ · February 15, 2015

So, with a ratio of Jool's Semi-major axis to Jupiter's, Porp's orbit would be 194,338,676,838,090m (194,338,676,838km) in ratio to Tyche (supposed orbit at 2.2 x 10^12km).... Man that's bloody far lol.
edit: Yah, just tested that, causes NaN errors in the game. Would have to be a much lower altitude, I'm guessing.

Put it at Flo's apoapsis.

CaptRobau · February 15, 2015

Having a problem:

I want to have a game with Kerbin as a moon of Urlum. I have the latest KopernicusTech install, and the latest outerplanets. When I recover after my first launch, and go back to the VAB (or the SPH), the editor has the engine animation firing nonstop, and nothing works except for 'new craft' which works after several pushes (and editor re-loads), and 'save craft'. i can also edit the name - if I save and them open the the saved ship file, it is blank after the first lines that have the vessel name and game version.

If I close KSP and reload, every subsequent launch has me immediately in the center of the Sun, exploding due to heat.

I will post images tomorrow later or tomorrow.

the MM code I used:

@Kopernicus
{
	@Body[Urlum]
	{
		@Properties
		{
			@radius = 6531000
            @mass = 1.79e+25
            @geeASL = 2.85556
			@ScienceValues
			{
				@landedDataValue = 30
				@splashedDataValue = 1
				@flyingLowDataValue = 5
				@flyingHighDataValue = 4
				@inSpaceLowDataValue = 1.75
				@inSpaceHighDataValue = 1.5
				@recoveryValue = 1.5
			}
		}
        @Orbit
        {
			@inclination = 0
            @eccentricity = 0
            @semiMajorAxis = 013599840256
            @longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
            @argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
            @meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 0
            @epoch = 0
        }
	}
	@Body[Kerbin]
	{
        %flightGlobalsIndex = 1
		@Orbit
		{
			%referenceBody = Urlum
			%inclination = 0
			%eccentricity = 0
			%semiMajorAxis = 112000000
			%longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
			%argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
			%meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
			%epoch = 0
		}
	}
	@Body[Mun]
	{
		@Orbit
		{
			%referenceBody = Urlum
			%inclination = 0
			%eccentricity = 0
			%semiMajorAxis = 345000000
			%longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
			%argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
			%meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
			%epoch = 0
		}
	}
	@Body[Minmus]
	{
		@Properties
		{
			%mass = 2.6457897e+20
			%radius = 200000
			%geeASL = 0.045
			%rotationPeriod = 22500
		}
		@Orbit
		{
			%referenceBody = Urlum
			%inclination = 0
			%eccentricity = 0
			%semiMajorAxis = 745000000
			%longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
			%argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
			%meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
			%epoch = 0
		}
	}
}

This doesn't even move Kerbin. You're moving Urlum to orbit Urlum. You also don't need all those @s. Only in front of the parts that are already in Kopernicus/System.cfg. Like this:


// Apply this patch after the Kopernicus mod is loaded
@Kopernicus:AFTER[Kopernicus]
{
    @Body[Kerbin]
    {
        @Orbit
        {
            @referenceBody = Urlum
            inclination = 0.375
            eccentricity = 0
            semiMajorAxis = 745000000
            longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
            argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
            meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
            epoch = 0
        }
    }
}

Edited February 15, 2015 by CaptRobau

Borisbee · February 15, 2015

Thank you! I'll check it out later.
Btw, I just remembered about your question on how scaled spaces were generated. KT use the actual terrain height (measured from center of the body, using GetSurfaceHeight function) as basis for scaled space mesh calculation. Here is the function that does it. It simply adjusts radius of each vertices on the mesh, so they will match up with actual terrain on the same coordinate.

Interesting, it seems that it *should* be taking into account all PQS mods that modify the planet but for some reason PQSMod_VertexHeightOblate and PQSMod_VertexHeightOffset apply only to localspace. Maybe those two mods work differently than the others. I can't think of a good reason why they shouldn't be taken into account in the scaledmesh.

ABZB · February 15, 2015

It does move Kerbin:

that what this chunk does:


	@Body[Kerbin]
	{
        %flightGlobalsIndex = 1
		@Orbit
		{
			%referenceBody = Urlum
			%inclination = 0
			%eccentricity = 0
			%semiMajorAxis = 112000000
			%longitudeOfAscendingNode = 0
			%argumentOfPeriapsis = 0
			%meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
			%epoch = 0
		}
	}

I put in the % (which adds if that field is not present, modifies like @ if it is) when I was trying to figure out if I had some property double-entered.

The rest of it moves Urlum to Kerbin's old orbit, and re-positions the Mun and Minmus to orbit Urlum. I also played with mass, radius, and ASL gravity for fun. I had zeroed out inclinations and eccentricity thinking the glitches might be due to having something collide ( I was wrong, apparently).

Edited February 15, 2015 by ABZB

Candlelight · February 15, 2015

This isn't really a bug, but more of the PQS not being set correctly. The fading you see is the transition from scaledspace to local. Your color map is not being applied to the planet so that's why you see it fade away when you get closer. Look to see if you have a color mod on the planet that's interferring. Click the save button, and paste your planet config here.

Ok, here is the .cfg file:


@Kopernicus 
{
    Body
    {
        name = Ethan
        flightGlobalsIndex = 18
        Template
        {
            name = Tylo
        }
        Properties
        {
            radius = 550000
            geeASL = 0.73
            mass = 3.2606908e+22
            description = A big rocky planet situated a bit farther than Eeloo.It has one large moon that is half of Ethan's size, Ron.
            ScienceValues
            {
                landedDataValue = 85
                splashedDataValue = 0
                flyingLowDataValue = 0
                flyingHighDataValue = 0
                inSpaceLowDataValue = 35
                inSpaceHighDataValue = 25
                recoveryValue = 10
            }
        }    
        Orbit
        {
            referenceBody = Sun
            color = 0.9,0.55,0,1
            inclination = 3
            eccentricity = 0.1
            semiMajorAxis = 110984567100
            longitudeOfAscendingNode = 90
            argumentOfPeriapsis = 45
            meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
            epoch = 0
        }
        ScaledVersion
        {
            Material
            {    
                texture = Kopernicus/Textures/Ethan_color
                normals = Kopernicus/Textures/Ethan_normal         
            }
        }
    }
}

And here is the Kittopia config:


// CustomData


PlanetEthan
{
    AdditionalData
    {
        Stock = False
        AddAtmoFx = False
        AddOceanFx = False
        OceanLoadTextures = False
        UnlitOcean = False
        ModScaledAtmoShader = False
        AddRings = False
        AddParticles = False
        DisableOrbitRenderer = False
    }
    Orbit
    {
        semiMajorAxis = 110984567100
        eccentricity = 0.1
        inclination = 3
        meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
        epoch = 0
        argumentOfPeriapsis = 45
        LAN = 90
        RefBody = Sun
        orbitColor = RGBA(0.900, 0.550, 0.000, 1.000)
    }
    CelestialBody
    {
        bodyName = Ethan
        bodyDescription = A big rocky planet situated a bit farther than Eeloo.It has one large moon that is half of Ethan's size, Ron.
        GeeASL = 0.73
        Radius = 550000
        Mass = 3.2458694186395E+22
        gravParameter = 2166293250000
        sphereOfInfluence = 564844787.493308
        hillSphere = 1225727357.21178
        gMagnitudeAtCenter = 2166293250000
        use_The_InName = False
        isHomeWorld = False
        ocean = False
        atmosphere = False
        staticPressureASL = 1
        atmosphereScaleHeight = 0
        atmosphereContainsOxygen = False
        maxAtmosphereAltitude = 0
        altitudeMultiplier = 1.4285
        altitudeOffset = 0
        atmoshpereTemperatureMultiplier = 1
        useLegacyAtmosphere = True
        atmosphereMultiplier = 1
        pressureMultiplier = 0
        rotates = True
        rotationPeriod = 214559772.439931
        solarRotationPeriod = False
        initialRotation = 0
        rotationAngle = 0.0113880143440973
        directRotAngle = -342.320760053958
        tidallyLocked = True
        inverseRotation = False
        inverseRotThresholdAltitude = 100000
        angularV = 2.92840797255422E-08
        atmosphericAmbientColor = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 1.000)
    }
    PQS
    {
        PQSMod_CelestialBodyTransform
        {
            deactivateAltitude = 330000
            forceRebuildOnTargetChange = False
            forceActivate = False
            overrideFade = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 0
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
        {
            seed = 4447895
            deformity = 1000
            octaves = 8
            persistence = 0.5
            frequency = 24
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 50
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexSimplexHeight
        {
            seed = 98374
            deformity = 2000
            octaves = 8
            persistence = 0.5
            frequency = 4
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 59
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexHeightMap
        {
            heightMap = rockymoon_height (MapSO)
            heightMapDeformity = 6000
            heightMapOffset = 0
            scaleDeformityByRadius = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 49
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_FlattenOcean
        {
            oceanRadius = 1
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 60
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexHeightNoiseVertHeightCurve2
        {
            deformity = 8000
            ridgedAddSeed = 1530393239
            ridgedAddFrequency = 12
            ridgedAddLacunarity = 2
            ridgedAddOctaves = 4
            ridgedSubSeed = 1212096306
            ridgedSubFrequency = 12
            ridgedSubLacunarity = 2
            ridgedSubOctaves = 4
            simplexHeightStart = 0
            simplexHeightEnd = 9000
            simplexSeed = 1909396195
            simplexOctaves = 6
            simplexPersistence = 0.699999988079071
            simplexFrequency = 4
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_AltitudeAlpha
        {
            atmosphereDepth = 8000
            invert = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = False
            order = 999999999
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_UVPlanetRelativePosition
        {
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 999999
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_HeightColorMap
        {
            blend = 0.4
            lcCount = 3
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 201
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexColorMap
        {
            vertexColorMap = rockymoon_color (MapSO)
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 200
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSLandControl
        {
            useHeightMap = False
            vHeightMax = 10000
            createColors = False
            createScatter = True
            altitudeBlend = 0
            altitudeSeed = 1
            altitudeOctaves = 1
            altitudePersistance = 1
            altitudeFrequency = 1
            latitudeBlend = 0
            latitudeSeed = 1
            latitudeOctaves = 1
            latitudePersistance = 1
            latitudeFrequency = 1
            longitudeBlend = 0
            longitudeSeed = 1
            longitudeOctaves = 1
            longitudePersistance = 1
            longitudeFrequency = 1
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 999999
            Parent = Ethan
            Landclass[]
            {
                Landclass
                {
                    landClassName = Base
                    color = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000)
                    noiseColor = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000)
                    latitudeDouble = False
                    coverageBlend = 0
                    coverageSeed = 1
                    coverageOctaves = 1
                    coveragePersistance = 1
                    coverageFrequency = 1
                    noiseBlend = 0
                    noiseSeed = 1
                    noiseOctaves = 1
                    noisePersistance = 1
                    noiseFrequency = 1
                    minimumRealHeight = 0
                    alterRealHeight = 0
                    alterApparentHeight = 0
                    altDelta = 1
                    latDelta = 1
                    lonDelta = 1
                    delta = 1
                }
            }
        }
        PQSMod_QuadMeshColliders
        {
            maxLevelOffset = 0
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_MapDecal
        {
            radius = 6000
            position = (569917.4, -94669.8, 181300.9)
            angle = 70
            heightMap = saganface (MapSO)
            heightMapDeformity = 50
            cullBlack = False
            useAlphaHeightSmoothing = False
            absolute = False
            absoluteOffset = 0
            smoothHeight = 0.125
            smoothColor = 0
            removeScatter = True
            DEBUG_HighlightInclusion = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 200
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSCity
        {
            debugOrientated = False
            frameDelta = 1
            repositionToSphere = True
            repositionToSphereSurface = False
            repositionToSphereSurfaceAddHeight = False
            repositionRadial = (-457335.5, 388660.5, 48087.1)
            repositionRadiusOffset = 2085
            reorientToSphere = True
            reorientInitialUp = (0.0, 1.0, 0.0)
            reorientFinalAngle = 30
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
    }
}

Edited February 15, 2015 by Candlelight

_Augustus_ · February 15, 2015

Apparently, Kottabos likes Kopernicus. He did a video on TK and will eventually do OPM.

CaptRobau · February 15, 2015

It does move Kerbin:
that what this chunk does:

Must've scrolled too far down than.

- - - Updated - - -

He did a video on TK and will eventually do OPM.

Cool!

Gravitasi · February 15, 2015

Interesting, it seems that it *should* be taking into account all PQS mods that modify the planet but for some reason PQSMod_VertexHeightOblate and PQSMod_VertexHeightOffset apply only to localspace. Maybe those two mods work differently than the others. I can't think of a good reason why they shouldn't be taken into account in the scaledmesh.

Hmm... I think the problem is not exactly that they are not applied to scaled space. But, more specifically, they make GetSurfaceHeight produce incorrect results (i.e. it give terrain height value as if those PQS mods were not there). I believe that they are some kind already-obsolete PQS mods because of this fact alone. And for the VertexHeightOblate, I couldn't get the terrain landable. Did you successfully make it landable?

Maybe this is why Krag made some custom PQS modifications, which are analogs of them, in the first place; because they never work correctly. Personally, I discourage their usage on planets, because of what they do to GetSurfaceHeight; it will disrupt all plugins that rely on GetSurfaceHeight function to get terrain height information.

But shockingly, contrary to my own recommendation, Pol does use VertexHeightOffset! I honestly don't understand why Squad added it to the moon. It makes some plugins that rely on terrain height information don't work properly. For example, try to use HyperEdit's "Ship Lander" on Pol, with low altitude as input. You will find yourself still very high above the ground!

Curiouser, and curiouser.

ABZB · February 15, 2015

I have posted the pictures of my above above glitch in sequence. removing kittopia does not fix. removing kopernicus does fix the problem. Removing my MM file does not fix... huh.

output.log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/huxwm0ia4bbpog0/output_log.txt?dl=0

MM file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyn7c33a4bvloop/zzzmy.cfg?dl=0

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Edited February 15, 2015 by ABZB

Gravitasi · February 15, 2015

Apparently, Kottabos likes Kopernicus. He did a video on TK and will eventually do OPM.

Wow... I never expected this.... Thanks for the review!

_Augustus_ · February 15, 2015

Wow... I never expected this.... Thanks for the review!

I made a review of a bunch of planet packs, the video is on my mod thread.

Lillz · February 15, 2015

Ok, here is the .cfg file:


@Kopernicus 
{
    Body
    {
        name = Ethan
        flightGlobalsIndex = 18
        Template
        {
            name = Tylo
        }
        Properties
        {
            radius = 550000
            geeASL = 0.73
            mass = 3.2606908e+22
            description = A big rocky planet situated a bit farther than Eeloo.It has one large moon that is half of Ethan's size, Ron.
            ScienceValues
            {
                landedDataValue = 85
                splashedDataValue = 0
                flyingLowDataValue = 0
                flyingHighDataValue = 0
                inSpaceLowDataValue = 35
                inSpaceHighDataValue = 25
                recoveryValue = 10
            }
        }    
        Orbit
        {
            referenceBody = Sun
            color = 0.9,0.55,0,1
            inclination = 3
            eccentricity = 0.1
            semiMajorAxis = 110984567100
            longitudeOfAscendingNode = 90
            argumentOfPeriapsis = 45
            meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
            epoch = 0
        }
        ScaledVersion
        {
            Material
            {    
                texture = Kopernicus/Textures/Ethan_color
                normals = Kopernicus/Textures/Ethan_normal         
            }
        }
    }
}

And here is the Kittopia config:


// CustomData


PlanetEthan
{
    AdditionalData
    {
        Stock = False
        AddAtmoFx = False
        AddOceanFx = False
        OceanLoadTextures = False
        UnlitOcean = False
        ModScaledAtmoShader = False
        AddRings = False
        AddParticles = False
        DisableOrbitRenderer = False
    }
    Orbit
    {
        semiMajorAxis = 110984567100
        eccentricity = 0.1
        inclination = 3
        meanAnomalyAtEpoch = 3.14
        epoch = 0
        argumentOfPeriapsis = 45
        LAN = 90
        RefBody = Sun
        orbitColor = RGBA(0.900, 0.550, 0.000, 1.000)
    }
    CelestialBody
    {
        bodyName = Ethan
        bodyDescription = A big rocky planet situated a bit farther than Eeloo.It has one large moon that is half of Ethan's size, Ron.
        GeeASL = 0.73
        Radius = 550000
        Mass = 3.2458694186395E+22
        gravParameter = 2166293250000
        sphereOfInfluence = 564844787.493308
        hillSphere = 1225727357.21178
        gMagnitudeAtCenter = 2166293250000
        use_The_InName = False
        isHomeWorld = False
        ocean = False
        atmosphere = False
        staticPressureASL = 1
        atmosphereScaleHeight = 0
        atmosphereContainsOxygen = False
        maxAtmosphereAltitude = 0
        altitudeMultiplier = 1.4285
        altitudeOffset = 0
        atmoshpereTemperatureMultiplier = 1
        useLegacyAtmosphere = True
        atmosphereMultiplier = 1
        pressureMultiplier = 0
        rotates = True
        rotationPeriod = 214559772.439931
        solarRotationPeriod = False
        initialRotation = 0
        rotationAngle = 0.0113880143440973
        directRotAngle = -342.320760053958
        tidallyLocked = True
        inverseRotation = False
        inverseRotThresholdAltitude = 100000
        angularV = 2.92840797255422E-08
        atmosphericAmbientColor = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 1.000)
    }
    PQS
    {
        PQSMod_CelestialBodyTransform
        {
            deactivateAltitude = 330000
            forceRebuildOnTargetChange = False
            forceActivate = False
            overrideFade = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 0
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexSimplexHeightAbsolute
        {
            seed = 4447895
            deformity = 1000
            octaves = 8
            persistence = 0.5
            frequency = 24
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 50
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexSimplexHeight
        {
            seed = 98374
            deformity = 2000
            octaves = 8
            persistence = 0.5
            frequency = 4
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 59
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexHeightMap
        {
            heightMap = rockymoon_height (MapSO)
            heightMapDeformity = 6000
            heightMapOffset = 0
            scaleDeformityByRadius = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 49
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_FlattenOcean
        {
            oceanRadius = 1
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 60
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexHeightNoiseVertHeightCurve2
        {
            deformity = 8000
            ridgedAddSeed = 1530393239
            ridgedAddFrequency = 12
            ridgedAddLacunarity = 2
            ridgedAddOctaves = 4
            ridgedSubSeed = 1212096306
            ridgedSubFrequency = 12
            ridgedSubLacunarity = 2
            ridgedSubOctaves = 4
            simplexHeightStart = 0
            simplexHeightEnd = 9000
            simplexSeed = 1909396195
            simplexOctaves = 6
            simplexPersistence = 0.699999988079071
            simplexFrequency = 4
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_AltitudeAlpha
        {
            atmosphereDepth = 8000
            invert = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = False
            order = 999999999
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_UVPlanetRelativePosition
        {
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 999999
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_HeightColorMap
        {
            blend = 0.4
            lcCount = 3
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 201
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_VertexColorMap
        {
            vertexColorMap = rockymoon_color (MapSO)
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 200
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSLandControl
        {
            useHeightMap = False
            vHeightMax = 10000
            createColors = False
            createScatter = True
            altitudeBlend = 0
            altitudeSeed = 1
            altitudeOctaves = 1
            altitudePersistance = 1
            altitudeFrequency = 1
            latitudeBlend = 0
            latitudeSeed = 1
            latitudeOctaves = 1
            latitudePersistance = 1
            latitudeFrequency = 1
            longitudeBlend = 0
            longitudeSeed = 1
            longitudeOctaves = 1
            longitudePersistance = 1
            longitudeFrequency = 1
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 999999
            Parent = Ethan
            Landclass[]
            {
                Landclass
                {
                    landClassName = Base
                    color = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000)
                    noiseColor = RGBA(0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000)
                    latitudeDouble = False
                    coverageBlend = 0
                    coverageSeed = 1
                    coverageOctaves = 1
                    coveragePersistance = 1
                    coverageFrequency = 1
                    noiseBlend = 0
                    noiseSeed = 1
                    noiseOctaves = 1
                    noisePersistance = 1
                    noiseFrequency = 1
                    minimumRealHeight = 0
                    alterRealHeight = 0
                    alterApparentHeight = 0
                    altDelta = 1
                    latDelta = 1
                    lonDelta = 1
                    delta = 1
                }
            }
        }
        PQSMod_QuadMeshColliders
        {
            maxLevelOffset = 0
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSMod_MapDecal
        {
            radius = 6000
            position = (569917.4, -94669.8, 181300.9)
            angle = 70
            heightMap = saganface (MapSO)
            heightMapDeformity = 50
            cullBlack = False
            useAlphaHeightSmoothing = False
            absolute = False
            absoluteOffset = 0
            smoothHeight = 0.125
            smoothColor = 0
            removeScatter = True
            DEBUG_HighlightInclusion = False
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 200
            Parent = Ethan
        }
        PQSCity
        {
            debugOrientated = False
            frameDelta = 1
            repositionToSphere = True
            repositionToSphereSurface = False
            repositionToSphereSurfaceAddHeight = False
            repositionRadial = (-457335.5, 388660.5, 48087.1)
            repositionRadiusOffset = 2085
            reorientToSphere = True
            reorientInitialUp = (0.0, 1.0, 0.0)
            reorientFinalAngle = 30
            sphere = Ethan (PQS)
            modEnabled = True
            order = 100
            Parent = Ethan
        }
    }
}

In your PQS config, you didn't give the file location for the height and color map. It should be /Gamedata/blahblah/heightmap.png and same for the color map

Candlelight · February 15, 2015

In your PQS config, you didn't give the file location for the height and color map. It should be /Gamedata/blahblah/heightmap.png and same for the color map

Can you just highlight the piece of code that needs to be changed?

Lillz · February 15, 2015

Am I doing something wrong when I try to set the SOI in saveload with this?:

CelestialBody

{

sphereOfInfluence = 33000

}

The body I'm setting that for doesn't seem to load with that SOI...

- - - Updated - - -

Can you just highlight the piece of code that needs to be changed?

PQSMod_VertexHeightMap

{

heightMap = rockymoon_height (MapSO)

heightMapDeformity = 6000

heightMapOffset = 0

scaleDeformityByRadius = False

sphere = Ethan (PQS)

modEnabled = True

order = 49

Parent = Ethan

}

There and:

PQSMod_VertexColorMap

{

vertexColorMap = rockymoon_color (MapSO)

sphere = Ethan (PQS)

modEnabled = True

order = 200

Parent = Ethan

}

You need to give the map locations with a format like this: GameData/Porp/Textures/Cyrus_height.png

edit: also, you really don't need a saveload config that complicated, try something easier like this: http://pastebin.com/smxSzGEk

Edited February 15, 2015 by Lillz

CaptRobau · February 15, 2015

Am I doing something wrong when I try to set the SOI in saveload with this?:
CelestialBody
{
sphereOfInfluence = 33000
}

I've never gotten that to work, so I think it just doesn't work. It only seems to work when you do it in-game, but it won't load on restart.

Lillz · February 15, 2015

I've never gotten that to work, so I think it just doesn't work. It only seems to work when you do it in-game, but it won't load on restart.

Hmm so is there a way I can get around that? Right now, the GeeASL is, naturally, low for my asteroid moons. The game calculated the SOI to be too small to have an orbit possible... I could go the route where that just makes landing on them difficult (or impossible?) or I could somehow make a larger SOI. I don't designate a mass (just radius and GeeASL) for them, would that help?

ABZB · February 15, 2015

I have posted the pictures of my above above glitch in sequence. removing kittopia does not fix. removing kopernicus does fix the problem. Removing my MM file does not fix... huh.
output.log: https://www.dropbox.com/s/huxwm0ia4bbpog0/output_log.txt?dl=0
MM file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/tyn7c33a4bvloop/zzzmy.cfg?dl=0
http://imgur.com/a/sMiCp

Further tested - The same stuff happens with the only installed mods being this one, outerplanets 1.5.2, and Modulemanager

Drakoflame · February 15, 2015

I seem to be having a problem... OPM was working for a while with the KT .12 update, It was working with the 0.1 update, and then they suddenly dissapeared when I updated to .12... I have the DDS loader installed, as well as Trans-Kuptian. I'm also using the KT .dll's, but I was using OPM's .dlls for KT .1, and I also had Minor Bodies and TK working just fine. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem? or if I should just re-install OPM?

ABZB · February 15, 2015

I seem to be having a problem... OPM was working for a while with the KT .12 update, It was working with the 0.1 update, and then they suddenly dissapeared when I updated to .12... I have the DDS loader installed, as well as Trans-Kuptian. I'm also using the KT .dll's, but I was using OPM's .dlls for KT .1, and I also had Minor Bodies and TK working just fine. Can anyone tell me what might be the problem? or if I should just re-install OPM?

OPM (outer planets mod) for some reason overwrites the default KT system.cfg, with its planets added, rather than using a seperate MM file. When you update KT, the fresh default system.cfg overwrites the one that has OPM in it.

EDIT: I uploaded the Copy-&-Paste and quick edit I did to the OPM download for myself for that^ reason (1.5.2). (This was working until I tried to make Kerbin orbit Urlum, I think I did something else that screwed everything up, I am going piece by piece trying to figure out what this predates that, and should work.)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/lipk5ox8zwp4bh7/OPM.cfg?dl=0

Edited February 15, 2015 by ABZB

Lillz · February 15, 2015

When I change PQS settings in Kittopia, how do I save them to the saveload file?

Lillz · February 15, 2015

lol I accidentally pushed enter on the post for my planet pack even though they aren't 100% uploaded yet

Here is the link, though http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/110710-WIP-Porp-Gas-Giant-System-0-1?p=1736704#post1736704

edit: download available.

Edited February 15, 2015 by Lillz

Drakoflame · February 15, 2015

OPM (outer planets mod) for some reason overwrites the default KT system.cfg, with its planets added, rather than using a seperate MM file. When you update KT, the fresh default system.cfg overwrites the one that has OPM in it.
EDIT: I uploaded the Copy-&-Paste and quick edit I did to the OPM download for myself for that^ reason (1.5.2). (This was working until I tried to make Kerbin orbit Urlum, I think I did something else that screwed everything up, I am going piece by piece trying to figure out what this predates that, and should work.)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lipk5ox8zwp4bh7/OPM.cfg?dl=0

So I just throw that into my gamedata folder and MM will make it work? or do I put that somewhere else like in the Kopernicus or Kitopia folders?

CaptRobau · February 15, 2015

OPM (outer planets mod) for some reason overwrites the default KT system.cfg, with its planets added, rather than using a seperate MM file. When you update KT, the fresh default system.cfg overwrites the one that has OPM in it.
EDIT: I uploaded the Copy-&-Paste and quick edit I did to the OPM download for myself for that^ reason (1.5.2). (This was working until I tried to make Kerbin orbit Urlum, I think I did something else that screwed everything up, I am going piece by piece trying to figure out what this predates that, and should work.)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lipk5ox8zwp4bh7/OPM.cfg?dl=0

OPM places everything in System.cfg because it was thought it was the only way to make Eeloo a moon of Sarnus. It turns out it was possible with MM all along, which is why the next version will move all the OPM stuff out of the System.cfg file and into configs of their own, as it should be.

Drakoflame · February 15, 2015

Yay! horray for (better) OPM compatibility with other planet packs!!

CaptRobau · February 15, 2015

Hmm so is there a way I can get around that? Right now, the GeeASL is, naturally, low for my asteroid moons. The game calculated the SOI to be too small to have an orbit possible... I could go the route where that just makes landing on them difficult (or impossible?) or I could somehow make a larger SOI. I don't designate a mass (just radius and GeeASL) for them, would that help?

Always designate a mass. GeeASL however is the biggest culprit for small SOIs as far as I know, although it depends on the situation. My asteroid moons are close to a large gas giant. If they were farther from the planet, the same settings would produce a greater SOI. This is also why Eeloo has a larger SOI than let's say Kerbin, even though its smaller. The distance from the Sun makes those smaller settings result in a larger SOI.

[WIP] KopernicusTech - An integration attempt between Kopernicus and KittopiaTech (v0.13 - 03/26/15)

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