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Those were at founders edition clock, so base. Thing is that it can theoretically be overclocked to a far higher speed than the RX 480.

Don't order yet. Try this:http://pcpartpicker.com/list/PJpTBP PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.89 @ OutletPC) Motherboard: MSI B150M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($71.88 @ OutletPC) Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($29.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB Video Card ($109.88 @ OutletPC) Total: $391.64 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-19 06:36 EDT-0400 And if you plan to upgrade to a 970, you can likely afford a 1060 or 1070, both of which are quite a bit faster.

Good idea, the 1060 should be out of stock for 2 weeks as is. Save up for the 6 GB by the way.

Do you have a CPU that you are happy with, and can you afford a 1060 3GB or 6GB?

Just make sure that you have a 240 GB BX-200, 16 GB RAM, and WiFi.

Then take first move. I was just making sure.

@quasarrgames https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B3IvrPbGhZWFMjIycWR6TEhPWTg Achenar, Sol, and Alioth are ready. Rumors of an opposing task force around Ike meant that the 3 destroyers were sent to investigate. Perhaps the comms were intercepted, and the opposing force will meet us in orbit. I think I get first move since you requested a fight and I responded.

Cut the cooler. Up the SSD to 256, and get the OS with a student discount. If you can't, I found a mono with onboard wifi in the newest standard, which means that it should do 5 GHZ. It is mini ITX, but it frees up $50 for a 1060 if you really want it. Otherwise, cut the cooler off your current build, add the 240 GB BX 200, and add RAM up to 16 GB. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/VTtTBP This is also a thing. I keep switching CPUs because the 4590 is just as fast as the 6500 for $20 less, still works with stock cooler, and has cheaper motherboards. That will also let you drop a 1060 in. It includes a USB 3 wifi card, which won't take up a mobo slot. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/LGHgwV

Sure then. The Nanos it is. Persist should by up by about 12 hours from now.

OK. I choose Ike. 3 Core 3 Nanos then(Achenar, Sol, and Alioth). Unless... You want to field a large fleet, and I'll bring in a mothership for a conventional battle. My mothership is 130 tons, fields about 200 tons of fighters, and can't move. If you want, you could take 300-330 tons in instead. It would be a test. You would be looking at about 2100 parts on my end though, but not all together.

$50 with a cooler, and fans. Apparently I typoed.

I can fight you if you want. I have some reasonable 50 ton ships, so yeah. If you have 100 ton ships, I'll bring 2 50s per 100. Or 3/2 100 ton ships.

Same problem with his built in case fans. Its going to be loud... unless hes willing to spend another $50-$100 in fans.

I don't have a partslist to see the upgraded motherboard. What I said was that you wouldn't see many benefits from it anyways. Besides the RAM, modern video cards work only about 5% slower with PCIe 2 bandwidth. The CPU cooler on the i5 is just fine. 25-35C when completely idle 35-40C when doing stuff on the Internet 65-72C when playing games like GTA IV or War Thunder (a little bit less when playing Mafia 2). https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/4jd202/are_these_i56500_temperatures_normal_with_stock/

Especially Linux. When your drivers are bad and they get better, that isn't really positive considering they were bad to start.

$250 for the 6GB version. $200 for the RX 480 8 GB. What were you saying about pricing? Verify the last point please.

That isn't really a better build. You added creature comforts, but not performance to the build, and traded off performance. I said the same thing about an SSD by the way, I had to upgrade to 256 GB a month ago, and I only have KSP and Elite Dangerous there. And, I have a 1 TB rotating drive. A wireless adapter is disadvantageous if you have wired connections. If you could get by shaving the RAM, then do so on the main build and get a 1060 if you need the performance. But don't buy a 1060 or 480 after the fact. Used 960 value is already dropping. You pay less if you buy what you need now. TL;DR: You will likely spend more with the new build than with the previous build because of upgrades. Add an extra $40 for RAM, and an extra $60 for SSD and you would spend more than if you just took the performance, not the creature comforts. I love some of AMD's cards.(R9 Nano is great when they update it for Polaris) https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1894349 I think Endersmens listed off the games he would be playing beforehand... Nothing really triple A, and the worst I saw was KSP. If he could do that again, that would be great. And of course the RX 480 is the best $200 GPU around. But performance per dollar may be taken by: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-gtx-1060-performance-benchmarks-leak/ http://en.yibada.com/articles/141122/20160713/gtx-1060-release-and-price-gtx-1080-amd-rx-480-gtx-1060-vs-amd-radeon-rx-480-nvidia-gtx.htm A 1060 is faster than the 480 in every single way, and it will render faster, and it has 3GB VRAM at the same pricepoint where the 480 has 4. That's why I have held off on recommending any RX 480s. They were just outclassed by the 1060. It even lost in all benchmarks, and when overclocked, is similar to a 1060... Long story short, the games that he does play wouldn't even use a full 960. But if performance is that important, wait for the 1060 to formally release in 3 days. Its faster than a 480.

Its a crucial BX200.Amazon has them commonly. Blender doesn't like openCL, the way that AMD and intel cards render. In general, it is slower at doing so. The RX 480 isn't worth it for what you're doing anyways. It also can kill your motherboard sooo... Blender much prefers CUDA, which Nvidia cards prefer. https://blenderartists.org/forum/showthread.php?402080-RX480-or-GTX-1070 A 290x is similar in speed to an RX 480, as they are both close to the GTX 970 for games(not compute). A 680 is similar to a 960. An RX 480 should be similar to a 960, but it has poor optimization for Blender because of OpenCL, runs hotter, won't have an impact on performance for what you play, doesn't work with GameWorks, and can kill your motherboard. And you don't have budget for it. But its faster for gaming, however your games will max with a 960. https://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/11/620703493334221287/ Is there a microcenter near you that you or your parents could drive you to?

I use the exact same application, and hardware that could be considered just a tier up. That video was of the same application, Blender, that Endersmen users. http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_4690k-412-vs-intel_xeon_e3_1231_v3-437 Source. The only difference between the 1231 and 4690k is that the 1231 is 100 mhz slower. In cinebenches multithreaded benchmark, it pulls ahead. Blender uses every thread available as well, so I'm quite sure that it would fit said profile. Editing, not so sure. http://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compare_cpu-intel_core_i5_6500-524-vs-intel_xeon_e3_1231_v3-437 Faster in Cinebench's multi threaded load, but not all.

I'm saying that its faster in general. I exclusively render still images on GPUs, and the only time I see CPUs get close in speed to a GPU is in noisy, extremely complex images. Then, its a factor of 2 instead of 10. Overclocking on any of the motherboard chipsets that were chosen doesn't work. That upgrade to a reasonable chipset is $50. The Xeon's hyperthreading means that in <4 threaded loads, it is faster. In single core, its a tad slower, but not enough to matter as far as I've seen.

@Camacha The 2500K is similarly fast to said i3. Really, the laptop isn't faster for anything except starting editing. I switched him back to the BX200 each time by the way. He doesn't have the budget for an EVO in my opinion. A 6500 should be fine, because 300 mhz don't matter. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/r7h8Yr Fixed with Camacha's suggestions, has an i5 in it. http://pcpartpicker.com/list/sWXNQV Same thing, but a step up with a hyperthreaded Xeon. Now, this is important! If you have a MicroCenter nearby, buy the Xeon there. They have those chips for $200, which will give you 8 threads for editing. To buy that from a local microcenter saves you enough money that the price of the Skylake i5 build is comparable, and the Xeon build should be similar in single thread. But. hyperthreading will improve editing performance. http://www.microcenter.com/product/442355/Xeon_E3_1231V3_35GHz_LGA_1150_Boxed_Processor The Xeon box has full ATX, and the same case.

6700HQ single threaded is much slower than the i3. It WILL throttle in multi threaded tasks like editing, so performance won't be much better than the i3. A 960M is similar to a 950, which is 3/4 as fast as a 960. The 960M will thermal throttle as well while rendering, seriously slowing down your render times. Trust me, I know a friend with the same laptop that throttles even though he cleans it regularly with compressed air. Take the desktop. I use Blender all the time by the way with a GTX 970. It is really fast, and a 960 is about 60-70% as fast. Expect speeds similar to a 970M or 770 in rendering.

He renders in Blender. Blender uses video cards. His CPU doesn't matter for rendering. So the question is, does video editing need an i5? Also, the 6300 has a 403 in CineBench R15, which is a good deal faster than his laptop.

Off the top of my head, the sky lake build should be about 25% faster(10% per generation). MiniITX doesn't make it much more expensive. The extra cores on the AMD 880K make it better for streaming than an i3, but most games prefer strong single cores, where the i3 winds. The 1060 should be about as fast as my 970 for gaming, which is pretty quick. It also goes really fast for rendering and did the BMW benchmark(new version) in sub 2 minutes.

Meh, try it out. Meanwhile, Sharkman had an idea and I followed it. Motherships that can't move alone, but launch massive amounts of fighters... I'm talking 24 4 ton fighters with 2 missiles apiece in squadrons of 8, with 1 30 ton squadron leader equipped with ship-killers. They also have multiple anti ship armaments, like 8 1.25 anti ship missiles, and 8 long i-beams. It also weighs just 130 tons without fighters onboard, at 600 parts. That becomes about 2100 parts though, so all fighters can't be at the mothership at once. I propose Mothership Battles: 2 parties deploy motherships over a planet or moon. They spread their squadrons out over the space, dividing them up as they wish(for example, 6 squadrons of 4 with 1 squadron leader per 2 squadrons). Battle is conventional until 1 side loses 80% its fighters. After one side loses 80% of its fighters, that side's mothership can be attacked. But, there are 2 phases to a mothership attack. 1.Transit The fighter/squadron has to travel to the mothership. There, it is attacked by either the mothership, or opposing fighters. All fighters can fire in defense of the mothership. The mothership can attack 50% of the squadron attacking it. 2. Attack Coin flip! Winner gets to move first. The squadron/fighter attacks the mothership. The mothership defends itself. All fighters can fire at once in a squadron. Battle continues until one side A. loses all ships except for mothership or B. loses 80% of fighters, and mothership. Only 10% of fighters can protect the mothership when the enemy is NOT in transit or attack phase.