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Yeah, that's something they definitely would have mentioned and wasn't really in the scope of this update... which parts have you narrowed it down to?

Afaik the merch store has been gone for a long time?

I know but last time I checked the mod for MJ does the same for KER too.. despite it already being there. Though I do think it means you don’t have to alter the KER settings if you’re feeling extra lazy

Seems weird... I launch rockets taller than that without wobble all the time :s You can alter the module so it’s on by default

Even with rigid attachment on?

If you use MJ2 and KER for all! MJ can be partless anyway and retain full functionality Also, as far as we can tell so far, there’s not an actual stock readout of dV... just visuals based on it but no actual numbers.

Exactly my problem with them and the reason I don’t really touch them in career mode. You’ve come up with a nice solution though.. must have very little dV using that command pod and with so few fuel tanks?

I think you're forgetting KSP is a game. It isn't meant to be a replica of human space programs. We've already established that Kerbals, in some respects, are better engineers than us. It is meant to be FUN and somewhat educational. It is also a game that practically begs for people to fly those missions that never quite made it off the ground in reality, of which there are plenty that require some sort of rotor. It is also a bit daft to argue against rotors anyway considering the next mars rover with have a flying drone (last time I checked) which uses rotors. Plus, the idea that KSP would have to include "and aircraft" is ridiculous. Have you seen how much work NASA has done for atmospheric aviation? There simply is no space program that doesn't involve "and aircraft" to a (large) extent. It sounds like you want RO, not KSP.

like the rapier?

Isn't this true for all atmospheric bodies though? But we have a generally accepted dV figure for Kerbin and Laythe

Well I mean I'm on 2k hours and I haven't done this either... I'm a habitual career mode restarter. I should probably get around to it at some point. You need something like 11k dV to get to orbit from eve too

afaik radiators don't help with atmospheric heating

Correct but also incorrect. The amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is completely unimportant, it is the amount of CO2 in the blood which is produced by the body that acts as a regulator - your body has absolutely no way to measure in atmosphere CO2 levels, only what is in the blood, and seeing as the lungs do not absorb CO2, the only CO2 in the blood is produced by respiration etc.

seeing as this thread has been necro'd, can we get this comment taken off the thread and a warning issued? I made an even less obvious reference to drugs (banned according to forum rules) and my post got removed and I was issued a warning. I may sound somewhat bitter about it and I don't really care because rules is rules apparently. Edit: I also realise this is a somewhat pointless endeavour in terms of the user not being active any more, but still.

Downloaded the demo after watching a few streams... Scott Manley and Robbaz. Extremely different styles but that’s when I realised how versatile the game was. I could build a serious space program and/or build crazy things and then nuke them

Thank you very much!

Hi everyone! I was wondering if there was a method of retrieving a link to a specific post in a thread? like how the notification button works? Thanks

Yes, but all my posts took into account the other posts in this thread... And even so, of course it still matters, as without the adequate TWR you're not going to leave the atmosphere anyway.

At this point it becomes clear you've not read the rules mentioned above Ahhh, here's the caveat you forgot to add the first time round. Congratulations.

yes, it is change in velocity, but that does NOT translate to speed in atmosphere. you're forgetting about effects like atmospheric drag. And again, some of the highest dV values possible for planes cannot even break the sound barrier because their engines do not allow for it.

Well the height limit is obviously in atmosphere, though we probably should refer to the challenge section to see if there's a standard altitude for this kind of thing. And no, in atmosphere more dV does not equate to more speed. For example, super long distance "tankers" have huge amounts of dV, but couldn't possibly hope to achieve a decent speed.

I don't think that disqualifies it from being a plane though does it? The X-15 was a plane and that flew "closed cycle" and extremely high? Or are you suggesting the achieved figure is basically a re-entry speed?

Are the rapiers in closed cycle mode when you you reach max speed?

Are you using a probe or a command pod? If its a probe, you could well be running out of electricity OR, if you have comms network turned on, you could be going out of signal range/area.

I think this might be fixed later on. No word on it or anything but as they recently adjusted the weight (amongst other things) of the Mk1-3 capsule I can see them addressing this in the future.