Lisias

THIS SHOW was epic, I remember almost attending to it (had some money issues at that time, had to make some harsh choices - oh well... Saved by YouTube! ).

Jeb would not do better. (Araras/SP/Brazil , 2004) -- POST EDIT -- Found another one!

Sounds like a new TweakScale Companion will be on the oven soon!

Thanks for the info, guys. You have detected a new symptom for an existing KSP Misbehaviour, that I was trying to tackle down on https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/KSP-Recall/issues/3 Apparently, the Attachment Points are being overwritten on Load (as the Resources are), but only when the part have Variants! There's no possible fix on TweakScale, as this is beyound the Craft on memory - it's something on the loading code on KSP guts. See, when I save the craft, the thumbs is generated correctly: But once I load the damned craft, the part is displaced to the where where it would be if it were not scaled: This is slightly different from the initial behaviour I detected (wandering parts on Load/Revert), but that test were made using parts scaled up, and this is about parts scaled down - so apparently there's a "IF < original" somewhere on that code. Curiously, the "New" trick didn't worked on scaled down parts (perhaps a bug on the bugged code? ). Anyway, this will not be handled here on TweakScale, it's something to be implemented on KSP Recall. I will advise here and there when I have a fix, I will try something on this WeekEnd.

You can say it again!

Now I'm worried, because for me clicking "New" always worked. @Oraldo revak, @ShiningNeedle. I need your help on this. Fire up your KSP instalments, start a new SandBox game, go to the VAB, build something simple that triggers the problem, save the (mangled) craft, then close KSP, and send me: Every single Log file you find under <KSP.ROOT> (the Logs/* ones, the ModuleManager.Log, etc) ModuleManager.ConfigCache and brothers (shove everything starting with ModuleManager on the GameData, don't worry about licenses, MM allows it). The whole new savegame created on the stunt. I need to understand what is different from your instalments from mine, so I can have something to work with.

Yeah, I got this too but I don't think it's TweakScale related, at least directly. It happens when you revert the flight back to the Editor. The workaround I have is to click "New" and reload the craft. You need to click New, just reloading the craft is not enough. I talked about it on KSP Recall thread: Yes, I found some potential troublemaking patches on LBPP (on its Companion, I had to overwrite one of its Config files due it - no other feasible option is possible, that patches stomped even stock part's toes). You can install LBPP back if you install TweakScale Companion for SMCE . It overwrites the trouble maker patches, undoes any other TweakScale related patch from it, and install my own patches to it (that, at least I intended, redo the thing the proper way - could you test it for me? I may had borked on some part, as my time for testing this is currently hindered by some RL problems). If even by installing the Companion you are "Houstened", please send me KSP.log, the Module Manager logs and also the ModuleManager.ConfigCache so I can hunt and fix the problem. The right name is "999_KSP-Recall". I will check the Add'On documentation to see if I had borked on it - so don't worry, it is correctly installed. About some parts not being scaled, it's almost surely the new revamped ones - revamped parts has a new internal name to avoid conflicts with the previous parts, and so TweakScale "miss" them. @DarkNounours is applying a PR to a new .12 version, and I will have it published in the Weekend at worst - wait just a bit more. That "Enable" on Recall is there so you can disable it when a part is being handled by a Fuel Switch that don't like Recall. Some Fuel Switches handle Resources their own way, and theoretically Recall can undo their changes the same way KSP was undoing TweakScale's ones - so if you detect this problem, disabling Recall will allow you to use that part without problems. On the long run, Recall will learn about Add'Ons that does that and will disable itself automatically (Interstellar Fuel Switch, for example, handles Resources their own way so you don't need Recall when using IFS). Hi! Yes. However, it's a long time since the last time I had the time to play with KIS (and KAS), so I don't know how they are behaving on KSP 1.8 and beyound (assuming they run on them at all). The patches can be outdated too, so please report anything you think is not working.

I remembered Within Temptation tonight. This is one of my favorites.

Hi! Sure thing. Need a bit of time, I think I must give your proposed P/R some attention first. Don't have a clue, I don't know this yet. I will research a bit and come back to it later.

ANNOUNCE TwakScale Companion for SMCE 0.0.1.0 is available for downloading. This is a beta release, proceed with caution. Download on github. @HB Stratos, this is for you.

Ouch, dude, sorry being late. Life around here is somewhat... infected with bad news and I ended up forgetting to check this thread. I will try to do better in the near future. From the latest KSP Recall, you can forget about KSPe (a bag of tricks I use on my personal forks and it's not ready for being pushed to the mainstream yet, and the latest Recall has its own private fork with only the used functionalities embedded now, so you don't need to worry anymore about it). I'm guessing you don't use CKAN, so the steps are: Download the latest TweakScale from here. Download the latest KSP Recall from here. Unzip them on your KSP/GameData, you should have something like this on your GameData: total 268 drwxr-xr-x 10 lisias wheel 320 Mar 4 12:00 999_KSP-Recall -rw-r--r-- 1 lisias wheel 5120 Mar 3 21:14 999_Scale_Redist.dll drwxr-xr-x 14 lisias wheel 448 Mar 11 23:25 Firespitter drwxr-xr-x 20 lisias wheel 640 Feb 25 21:59 KAX -rw-r--r-- 1 lisias wheel 116736 Oct 19 08:09 ModuleManager.dll drwxr-xr-x 24 lisias wheel 768 Feb 27 20:21 Squad drwxr-xr-x 4 lisias wheel 128 Feb 27 20:16 SquadExpansion drwxr-xr-x 23 lisias wheel 736 Mar 3 21:13 TweakScale drwxr-xr-x 4 lisias wheel 128 Mar 7 18:10 TweakScaleCompanion drwxr-xr-x 3 lisias wheel 96 Mar 3 21:13 __LOCAL Since you are not using CKAN, you may be interested on installing KSP-AVC, so it will track down new releases for you. It's what I use, and I highly recommend it. This stunt has some time on the wild by now, so I don't expect any problems on a reasonably modded instalment - but there's a chance that you may have problems with some fuel switches (please kick me here if you find any problem). In a way or another, I also recommend to install and use S.A.V.E. - it has already S.A.V.E.d my sorry SAS more than once while I try new things.

It's on the back log. Work on it are, unfortunately, in a very slow pace nowadays. KSP Recall is an Add'On that undoes something intended by Squad to fix a problem on some add'ons that manages Resources, but ended up backfiring terribly on some others - as TweakScale. Since it's something that affects only KSP 1.9, only users of KSP 1.9.x should install KSP Recall in order to have TweakScale usable on it. I'm unsure the drain valve should be scaled without some beta testing before going mainstream. It's a new module, after all. Please be prudent as unintended collateral effects may hinder the game - I'm trying to solve one of these on the wheels, by the way - they scaled up with stupids buoyancies. That was unexpected, lets check: [LOG 22:51:38.515] [TweakScale] INFO: WriteDryCost Concluded : 1442 parts found ; 0 checks failed ; 0 parts with hotfixes ; 0 parts with issues overruled ; 20 Show Stoppers found; 6 Sanity Check failed; 716 unscalable parts. And yes, there're 32 new parts (you had 1410 parts on the previous log. Well [LOG 22:51:38.399] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part CarrierLiftShort (Carrier Aircraft Lift Short) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.399] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part CarrierShortStern (Carrier Short Stern) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.402] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part mediumbow (Medium Modern Bow) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.403] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part mediumhullshort (Medium Modern Hull Short) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.403] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part MedLCSmodule1 (Med Hull LCS module 1) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.407] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part vetteHangar (Small Modern Hangar structure) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.410] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part DGBridge (DGBridge) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.411] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part waterjet (FMW Water Jet) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.412] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part aftdeck (BB Super aftdeck) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.412] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part aftlower (BB Super aftlower) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.413] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part superfrontlower (BB Super frontlower) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.416] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part LizzyHull2 (QE Battleship Hull 2 (ship part5)) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.417] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part WW2FunnelStraight (WW2 Funnel Straight) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.417] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part WW2FunnelCanted (WW2 Funnel Canted) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.417] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part mediumhullshortvls (Medium Modern Hull VLS-Section) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.465] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part smallCtrlSrf (Elevon 4) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.478] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part smallRadialEngine (24-77 "Twitch" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.478] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part smallRadialEngine.v2 (24-77 "Twitch" Liquid Fuel Engine) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.502] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part smallHardpoint (Small Hardpoint) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 22:51:38.504] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part mediumDishAntenna (Communotron DTS-M1) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). The new Add'On is LShipPartsModern, right? The patching for one of the affected parts are: [LOG 22:47:42.995] Applying update BDArmory/MMPatches/000000_HitpointModule/@PART[*] to LShipPartsModern/Parts/CarrierHangarHull/CarrierLifts.cfg/PART[CarrierLiftShort] [LOG 22:47:43.687] Applying update LShipPartsRequired/LBP_tweakableComplete/@PART[Carrier*]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to LShipPartsModern/Parts/CarrierHangarHull/CarrierLifts.cfg/PART[CarrierLiftShort] [LOG 22:47:47.081] Applying update FerramAerospaceResearch/_FARPartModule/@PART[*]:HAS[!MODULE[LaunchClamp]]:FOR[FerramAerospaceResearch] to LShipPartsModern/Parts/CarrierHangarHull/CarrierLifts.cfg/PART[CarrierLiftShort] [LOG 22:47:47.411] Applying update FerramAerospaceResearch/_FARPartModule/@PART[*]:HAS[!MODULE[FARWingAerodynamicModel],!MODULE[FARControllableSurface]]:AFTER[FerramAerospaceResearch] to LShipPartsModern/Parts/CarrierHangarHull/CarrierLifts.cfg/PART[CarrierLiftShort] [LOG 22:47:47.643] Applying update kOS/kOS-module-manager/@PART[*]:FOR[kOS] to LShipPartsModern/Parts/CarrierHangarHull/CarrierLifts.cfg/PART[CarrierLiftShort] And apparently LShipPartsRequired the one borking here. But there're more parts borking here, see: [LOG 22:47:43.034] Applying update BDArmory/MMPatches/000000_HitpointModule/@PART[*] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] [LOG 22:47:43.740] Applying update LShipPartsRequired/LBP_tweakableComplete/@PART[small*]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] [LOG 22:47:46.151] Applying update TweakScale/patches/Squad/Squad_Aero/@PART[smallCtrlSrf] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] [LOG 22:47:46.878] Applying update FerramAerospaceResearch/FerramAerospaceResearch/@PART[smallCtrlSrf]:NEEDS[FerramAerospaceResearch|NEAR]:FOR[FerramAerospaceResearch] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] [LOG 22:47:47.120] Applying update FerramAerospaceResearch/_FARPartModule/@PART[*]:HAS[!MODULE[LaunchClamp]]:FOR[FerramAerospaceResearch] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] [LOG 22:47:47.672] Applying update kOS/kOS-module-manager/@PART[*]:FOR[kOS] to Squad/Parts/Aero/wings/elevon4.cfg/PART[smallCtrlSrf] And again, LShipPartsRequired is the one stomping TweakScale's toes. But the excellent news about this add'on is that I can fix it for you, the license allows! Stay tuned, I'm working on something specifically for LShipParts. (I LOVE SMCE's Add'Ons, and it's a pleasure to help on something for them!).

Nope. A complete rewrite is the only legally safe option (the problem is not the patches, they can be fixed - the problem is the licensing terms). Yep, I have confirmation. TMasterson5/tweakscaleConfigPatch is the one double patching things.

Hi! I need the whole KSP.log, and sometimes the ModuleManager.ConfigCache is also useful to diagnose new problems and doesn't hurt to add it in advance. Please publish these files on google drive, dropbox or something. POST EDIT Are you using TMasterson5 patches? Some of the FATALities on your log are the ones usually associated to it. Unfortunately, TMasterson5 patches are bugged and I can fix it myself due the restrictive licensing terms.

Near Future Solar is being supported on a new thingy called "TweakScale Companion :: Near Future Solar". It's still Pre Release (mainly because I just don't have the time to test it... sorry), and I'm not 100% sure about the reason there's no issue on it (lack of bugs or lack of users? ). I would be grateful if you could beta test it and report any problems. In the future, every NF patch on TweakScale will migrate to a Companion, and the current old ones will be deprecated.

Nice little game made in Flash from the old times - I would like to play it again.

Yep, these guys are good, indeed!

Apollo 11 and the Pen.

That 9 ones that happens on a vanilla install are on me. Parts using ModulePartVariant using mass on the variant are borking on TweakScale because it doesn't knows yet how to cope with this situation. Originally I had planned to tackle down this on the last holidays around here, but things got a bit out of control lately... I think I have enough information for the task, this is the next task on my backlog.

It looks as a Toe Stomping Fest. Lets check it... [LOG 11:35:50.305] [TweakScale] INFO: WriteDryCost Concluded : 1753 parts found ; 0 checks failed ; 0 parts with hotfixes ; 0 parts with issues overruled ; 142 Show Stoppers found; 9 Sanity Check failed; 583 unscalable parts. Yep, 142. Nowadays, such a huge amount of duplicated properties sounds like an Add'On installed twice, or new versions that renamed some files installed over older versions. And... "That's a bingo..." [LOG 11:11:54.626] Applying update TweakScale/patches/NFT_TweakScale/@PART[adapter-125-0625-2] to NearFutureConstruction/Parts/Adapters/adapter-125/adapter-125-0625-2.cfg/PART[adapter-125-0625-2] [LOG 11:12:07.232] Applying update TweakScale/patches/NF/NFC_TweakScale/@PART[adapter-125-0625-2] to NearFutureConstruction/Parts/Adapters/adapter-125/adapter-125-0625-2.cfg/PART[adapter-125-0625-2] Completely delete TweakScale and reinstall it. TweakScale does not keeps any user configuration on this folder, you can completely delete the folder without worries.

It will work the same. TweakScale is being engineered to bring new features and stability to every KSP version supported (and I'm working to expand support to even more), backporting fixes to previous KSP versions while keeping savegames safest as possible. So it's usually recommended to update your TweakScale to the latest so you can enjoy the new fixes (mostly patches nowadays).

It will not hurt - and you will get the latest TweakScale, KSP 1.9.1 "ready" (i.e., support for KSP Recall).

You can say it again! NASA fixes Mars lander by telling it to hit itself with a shovel https://nypost.com/2020/03/19/nasa-fixes-mars-lander-by-telling-it-to-hit-itself-with-a-shovel/ Ok, Bill Kerman, I know it was you!

Gotcha! [LOG 02:42:19.610] [TweakScale] Version 2.4.3.10 /L But there's something else too - and this appears to be a new: [LOG 03:05:16.438] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 03:05:16.439] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). [LOG 03:05:16.616] [TweakScale] ERROR: **FATAL** Part pp.vvmach (Plume Party Vapor Vent Mach) has a fatal problem due having duplicated properties - see issue [#34]( https://github.com/net-lisias-ksp/TweakScale/issues/34 ). It's like pp.vvmach was not only being TweakScale applied twice, but the module TweakScale is being applied four times itself too... And, well, apparently it is what happening.... [LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART [LOG 02:52:43.150] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to Chrayol_Design_Org/FX/PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART [LOG 02:52:43.161] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART [LOG 02:52:43.196] [ModuleManager] Applying update PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/@PART[pp_vvmach]:NEEDS[TweakScale] to PlumeParty/Vapor/vent/PART I'm unsure about how to proceed. Could you please send also the ModuleManager.ConfigCache ? I want to confirm this is not something on the TweakScale's Sanity Check before pursuing it further... POST EDIT: @moguy16 check if PlumeParty is not installed twice - of if there's some old files lingering when you updated. Try to plain delete everything installed with PlumeParty and then reinstall them from scratch, this looks like rogue oldies lingering on a update. METAR Visual Studio for Mac update just TRASHED my VS instalment, I can't develop anything on the damned thing. Frankly, Microsoft, it's time to serious rethink what you are doing - it's ok if you want to drop support for automatic Updates on the Mac - so just warns us and ask for a manual update, I'll do it when possible. But just trashing my machine while I'm trying to use my not so abundant time it's... it's... it's... (sigh) Damn, I would infringe half forum rules if I don't shut my fingers up.

Well... I got into this, and I just didn't knew where to post it - but I knew I had to post it here somewhere. So a new Thread, for curious things related to Space Program and Space Exploration. I remember a friend of mine bragging his computer was used at NASA when I was a teen, but didn't took him seriously until some time ago, when about 20 years later he sent me this video - still bragging about it. Seriously (sort of), that Amiga computers where really ahead of their time...