Synthesis

May 20, 2016

Hey, which particular file is it that adds that scratched glass effect? I lost it while updating some files/adjusting performance.

May 20, 2016

I'm a fan of it as well, despite usually disliking those sort of glass effects.

May 18, 2016

32 minutes ago, Andem said:

Is this dead? Permanently?

No, there's a testing version just a few posts above yours.

Also, I feel compelled to point out--astronauts carried machetes too, and I'm pretty sure they still carry survival knives.

May 17, 2016

8 hours ago, RangeMachine said:

Finally, I restored visor reflections shader. I spent many time to find a way to render atmosphere layer, but it's no result. So it's like an old reflections, without atmosphere.

You can download updated plugin from my GitHub fork, until @shaw updating his main branch.

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Very cool! I'm still trying to reduce the unexpected FPS hit from reflections on parts, otherwise I'd jump on this.

May 17, 2016

37 minutes ago, blu3wolf said:

Im not using reflection at all.

Ah, then I misunderstood you. Thanks all the same--are you using the test versions scatters, or something else? I get some weird but small glitches with them, but I think that's just how scatter works in 1.1.2. It's ironic--since I was already using 64 bit before this version, 1.1.2 has only improved stability, but performance has mostly gotten worse, at least with small ships,

May 17, 2016

2 hours ago, blu3wolf said:

That was the way I was getting part reflections. I mentioned the TR config also, because I was getting the same stuttering whenever I went on EVA. Turning off reflections in TR made no difference to the appearance, but a big difference to the performance.

I did like the look of the reflections from that old KSPRC config, but the performance hit! Now the only issue with my game is the pause when I rotate the view (whenever the view moves to include a celestial body it did not previously), and the lag when ascending through the clouds on takeoff.

Interesting--sorry if I'm misunderstanding you, but can you share what reflection option you're using? As I mentioned, I was getting very bad hitching to my framerate when I used the old 1.0.5 KSPRC part reflection (like the one I posted). I'm also looking for a less glitchy shader, but that's not as important to me currently.

May 17, 2016

18 minutes ago, TG_bigboss said:

So how do we disable the reflections because im getting good framerate but its shuttering which is causing me issues.

for some reason the menu for texture replacer disappears sometimes and i cant get it to show again.

Deleting the MM_Reflection cfg file will disable all reflections as far as I can tell. I had the same stuttering as I described it.

15 minutes ago, Proot said:

Sorry, I don't want to bother anyone, but there is pages and pages of people talking nonsense about this pack... about what MM config in the KSPRC folder are you talking?? the current version is not even using reflections and it's disabled by default! the reflection module in Texture Replacer is not available since 1.0.1!

If anything we're bothering you. I'm using an MM_ReflectionPluginWrapper.cfg from a previous version of KSPRC. Reflections are really important to be, so I didn't mind using a jury-rigged version (old 1.0.5 KSPRC with the updated modules). But for some reason, recently reflections have had a punishing effect on framerate that they didn't have before.

8 minutes ago, blu3wolf said:

Hmm. My texturereplacer install had realistic reflections on by default. Turning that off helped.

The MM config I had to delete was actually distributed with the previous version of KSPRC, and got into my install by shenanigans.

Hey, do you mind me asking--how were you getting those reflections aside from the MM configuration file. For some reason, that's the ONLY way I can get reflections working on the default parts. And other versions of MM_ReflectionPluginWrapper.cfg did not work.

// Replace ReflectionPlugin's module with TRReflection.

@PART[probeCoreOcto2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
       name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = octo2
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[probeCoreOcto]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = octo
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[probeCoreHex]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[probeCoreCube]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = cube
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[Mark1-2Pod]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = FrontWindow SideWindow
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[cupola]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = obj_base
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 64
}
}

@PART[crewCabin]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = cabin
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[mk1pod]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = window
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[Large_Crewed_Lab]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = Lab
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[Mark1Cockpit]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = Cockpit
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[Mark2Cockpit]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = Cockpit
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[landerCabinSmall]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = obj_base
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[mk2Cockpit_Inline]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = Cockpit_inline
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[mk2Cockpit_Standard]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = COCKPIT
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[mk2LanderCabin]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = cabin
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[mk3Cockpit_Shuttle]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = cockpit
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[MK1CrewCabin]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE[TRReflection]
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
interval = 4
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[mk2CrewCabin]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE[TRReflection]
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
meshes = Mk2CrewCabin
interval = 4
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[mk3CrewCabin]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE[TRReflection]
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
meshes = CREW
interval = 4
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[probeCoreSphere]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = sphere
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 2
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[ionEngine]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = engine
interval = 4
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[liquidEngine3]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = engine bell Nozzle
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[nuclearEngine]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[liquidEngine]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[liquidEngine2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[liquidEngine1-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[liquidEngine2-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[engineLargeSkipper]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
       colour = 0.2 0.2 0.2
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[RAPIER]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = engine
interval = 4
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[SSME]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[Size3AdvancedEngine]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = Nozzle
       colour = 0.25 0.25 0.25
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[fuelTank2-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = medtank
       colour = 0.18 0.18 0.18
       interval = 4
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[fuelTank4-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = smalltank
       colour = 0.18 0.18 0.18
       interval = 2
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[toroidalFuelTank]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[xenonTank]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 32
}
}

@PART[commDish]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = dish
       colour = 0.4 0.4 0.4
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[dockingPort2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = port
       colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[dockingPort3]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = port
       colour = 0.3 0.3 0.3
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[dockingPortLarge]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes = large
       colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

@PART[landingLeg1]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[landingLeg1-2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[miniLandingLeg]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
meshes =
       colour = 0.5 0.5 0.5
       interval = 6
       reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[solarPanels1]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = panel1 panel2 panel3 panel4 panel5
reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[solarPanels2]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = panel3 panel04 panel05 panel06 panel07 panel08
reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[solarPanels3]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = basepanel panel1 panel2 panel3 panel4 panel5
reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[solarPanels4]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = solarPanel4panels panel2 panel3 panel4 pane5 panel6
reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[solarPanels5]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = panel
reflectionResolution = 8
}
}

@PART[largeSolarPanel]:HAS[!MODULE[TRReflection]]:NEEDS[TextureReplacer]
{
MODULE
{
name = TRReflection
shader = Reflective/Bumped Diffuse
colour = 0.35 0.35 0.35
interval = 4
meshes = panel
reflectionResolution = 16
}
}

Other versions never seem to work. No idea why.

May 16, 2016

On 5/15/2016 at 8:56 AM, blu3wolf said:

Heres hoping that will work for me, then. Have just been having major stuttering on very small craft, and no luck so far narrowing down the cause. Loading now...

EDIT: and it worked! Thank you so much for the tip! Doubt I would have worked it out otherwise...

If this was directed at me (I'm not sure?) I'm happy I could help.

Basically, so far I'm seeing some graphical errors with scatterer (very long drawn shadows, a few glitches). And a surprisingly bad framerate hit when implementing Part Reflections as in previous KSPRC versions (though aren't supported by this testing version), though much worse now than before. Strange.

May 15, 2016

It's hard to tell, but it doesn't seem like changing the interval from 4 to 7 didn't help (changing it to 1 did make the hitching significantly worse I think) for a small satellite in low orbit. I may have to play around the settings further, but I'm not sure what could be causing it--normally it's the actual texture replacements that take a huge bite out of my FPS, not reflections. And the reflections seem fine in the VAB.

May 15, 2016

Very glad to hear this is still be worked on--it seems like such an obvious feature I'm surprised there aren't more mods that address it.

May 15, 2016

13 hours ago, shaw said:

Maybe that's when reflections are being generated. Does changing `reflectionInterval` make a difference?

Removing which CFG file? Removing `@Default.cfg` shouldn't have direct effect on reflections, it usually contains the default settings that don't change anything. Unless something else is the problem, e.g. some issues with texture compression and unloading. Check the log if there are any errors.

Thanks for getting back to me--this is a pretty unfamiliar area to me, but all my reflections come from TextureReplacer.dll and MM_ReflectionPluginWrapper.cfg. I think I have an "outdated" version, but weirdly, it's the only one that puts actual part reflections on components.