Canopus

Sitting next to that big Solid Rocket Motor would make me a little bit nervous. interesting sound on engine start there

This is a Delta Cryogenic Second stage though. Still RL10 of course. And i think it only had a partial failure once while launched on a Delta IV.

They uploaded it again it seems.

New Video with updated New Glenn model: Edit: Already posted by Tater my mistake. They seem to have reuploaded it for some reason.

I don‘t think a one directional form of stealth like this shield provides, was ever called into question. Whats impossible is be stealthy from all angles or during maneuvers.

This is so sad, Mechjeb play Space Jam

The more direct connection to a Saturn would be the RL-10 i guess.

Aren't you both leaving out the negative mass/energy thing?

i guess there won‘t be a stream?

Everything i read says otherwise. MTFF was a study from 86 and was finally dropped in 91. Kibo and Columbus were supposed to be part of Freedom even earlier though. This Painting is from 87 and shows a European pressurized module next to a Japanese lab. and this paper from a conference in 92 mentions Columbus as part of Freedom. https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19930013812.pdf

I have been playing some Warframe on PS4 but with the game being relatively complex and me not having too much free time i'm not making much progress.

@DDE What are you saying? It was combined with the Space station Freedom plans in 1991.

Yes it was called "Columbus Man-Tended Free Flyer", but consisted of not much more than a lab and a service module though, so nothing was lost when Columbus was just simply attached to what was then called Freedom.

@tater i think your kid and many other SpaceX fans like them now for frequent launches and their portrayal of flames, rocket power and the occasional crash, not to mention the promise of a Martian City they can inhabit when they are older. And if that inspires him thats cool and all. But i think soon the rapid pace of development will slow down for them too. (Unless you think they really have BFR anywhere close to flying soon) But i don't think they are the kind of people i was imagining. I had the older crowd in mind that is looking for directions in life and where to take their education. Not necessarily in the tech sector either.

I didn‘t mean the Gateway itself, but the eventual landers and their fuel, the small robotic landers and general consumables. The gateway is the Coral reef that the international and commercial fish will flock around.

Who else is going to pay for services in Lunar orbit?

I always watch from there as to avoid the Youtube Chat

Stream started

I tried

Regardless of the science and experience gained from the ISS, just being able to look up and see it pass by on starry nights and knowing that it is a piece of of human ingenuity and combined effort adds so much more worth to it. Even if you could conduct the same experiments far cheaper, a small unmanned free flying lab could never inspire the "Average Joe" in the same way.

You are probably thinking of Didymos which is a target for an impactor called DART. Edit: Little correction: the actual impact target will be the smaller companion.

This might have some information: https://engineering.purdue.edu/people/kathleen.howell.1/Publications/Conferences/2018_AAS_WhiDavBurMcCPowMcGHow.pdf

Both landers start from the gateway so there should be no difference there

@Cassel the three stage design consists of a tug, descent stage and an ascent stage. Of these three they want two to be reusable, tug and ascender. So you launch fuel for the tug and the ascent stage and a new landing stage. Can‘t be much worse than refueling the behemoth that the Lockheed lander would be. Cargo only missions could be much simpler thanks to the multi stage design and you could put some serious payload to the surface.