Mesklin

I agreed with every words Rune about winged and unwindeg SSTO, see another one proof of it: 6 kerbals on board, 25-30 minutes to LKO (but this bird stable enough for fly almost all time with 2x-3x physical warp), ~600 m/s dV on orbit and only 1 turbojets

Here is my second attempt of lightweight Jool-5 mission: Ship start mass - 50.92 t Ship mass on low Kerbin orbit - 35.98 t Main engine - 1 nuclear engine Reconfigurable lander with one pilot in cabine Lander route: Kerbin -> Laythe -> Vall -> Pol -> Bop -> Tylo -> Kerbin 3 supply subships for Laythe, Vall and Tylo with lander

Here is my ultimate VTOL craft: Mushroom Stock only, no mods, base construction mass: ~6.7 t (depend on fuel load), one pilot in personal, comfortable cabin I finished some awards tougher: 1. The Bedstead Award - base construction 2. The Airgeep Distinction (4 kerbals), The DARPA VTOL-X Award (10.29 t full mass – 3.36 t payload – 48% fraction) – 4 passenger’s cabins were added 3. The Harrier Distinction, The Dornier Award, The Osprey Award (10.89 t full mass – 3.96 t payload – 57% fraction) – 6 passenger’s cabins were added 4. The Moller Distinction, The Delta Clipper Award (1 passenger) – 1 passenger’s cabin was added 5. The MLRV Award (Munar Landing Research Vehicle) – 4 drop tanks and Mun Flea craft were added The Pogo Stick Award - earned

It is uncomparable thing, Science Train V, simply uncomparable. Very, very funny

You are right, for me, MMU is something like it (but it also totaly overpowered - 580 m/s dV):

Key words for it is training: try horizontal landing with high TWR craft first, you can save yourself more easy in case of sudden approach of surface. In any case you will take fuel economy for horizontal landing and for high TWR craft. And do not make vertical speed to big (maximum 20-30 m/s for Tylo for low TWR craft), plus watch surface ahead of craft, if you see mountains, try to make positive vertical speed to avoid collision. In my last Jool-5 mission at the end of landing I was very close to sudden disassembling, I fled on hight about 200 m with horizontal speed ~500 m/s on the top of small hill (vertical speed was ~+40 m/s at this moment). It was cool, but Bill was not very happy .

I agreed with it, for nukes you should make lander as light as possible and use horizontal landing as described in video. But for Tylo, IMHO, only horizontal landing is optimal, vertical descend with constant speed is too costly on Tylo. And agreed with chemical engines and big TWR (>1.5 on start) landing on Tylo much more comfortable and easy.

Looks like this craft has enough dV for Tylo, but I recommend you land from more low orbit, maybe 30x8 km will be good and start landing in periapsis, maintain vertical speed -20...-30 m/s in landing time and you will have smooth landing

There is my entry for level 1 with minimalistic sub-challenge: start weight - 144 t on launchpad with one brave men (Bill) in old fashioned, comfortable, personal cabin

OK, Ziv, I am challenger in it

There are 2 my examples of one staged Tylo landers: Lander "Tripod" with rover: ~5500 m/s dV, start TWR on Tylo - ~1.5; after Tylo landing TWR is ~3.3 and dV is 2600-2700 m/s. dV on Tylo orbit 30x30 km after ascent - 300-400 m/s. Receipt success and fuel economy landing on Tylo is very simple: make periapsis as low as possible (6 km is perfect) and do not over speed descent: 20-30 m/s vertical speed is good enough. This lander can land and return back to orbit from any bodies of Kerbol system, except Eve, include Kerbin And minimalistic example of Tylo lander, designed for SSTO "Dedal", start TWR on Tylo - 1.02, dV - 5983 m/s; dV on Tylo orbit 30x30 km after ascent - 50-100 m/s:

SSSPutnik, it is very impressive piece of space technology. Good luck in your journey.

You do not need so much dV for Laythe trip. Laythe round-trip is enough 3700 m/s dV on SSTO (4000 m/s with reasonable spare): 1. 2000+150 m/s - transfer to Jool 2. 0 m/s - Aerobraking in Laythe atmosphere and landing 3. 500-700 m/s - back to low Laythe orbit, for SSTO it is very cheap operation 4. 1000-1200 - direct transfer to Kerbin from low Laythe orbit I think, you can try Laythe jorney with current craft, see example here

Probably too many parts in crafts

KissSh0t, no cheats, this craft has 4000+ m/s dV on low Kerbin orbit. It is enough for reach Laythe and return with spare fuel (about 300 m/s dV) Last seconds before start ejection burn

Craft on the picture were traveled to orbit and back 6 times and I stopped counting, it is so boring. But this bird can more, I spent only 2/3 of fuel for 6 times.

What about craft like it, is it acceptable?

Here is some Bob's photos from his vacation on the beaches of Laythe

Here is some Bob's photos from his vacation on the beaches of Laythe

Yep, it is Stayputnik Mk1, for easy using bottom engine.

Perfect, especially Ike landing, it is really hard task. I also did ion landing on Ike several months ago, but my craft was 3 times more complex (similar complexity as lander for Dres) and I landed probe only

Let me introduce to you "Mun Goblin" - SSTO with innovative easy space landing system (ESLS) - only one rocket engine under craft. No more fast rotation at the last moment in time of landing sequence. No more overturned crafts after landing, this craft is stable as rock on the surface after landing.

Let me introduce to you "Mun Goblin" - SSTO with innovative easy space landing system (ESLS) - only one rocket engine under craft. No more fast rotation at the last moment in time of landing sequence. No more overturned crafts after landing, this craft is stable as rock on the surface after landing.

It is funny craft, but where is a lot of lights around hull. Every true UFO's should have very many lights