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You don't include "soul" in the equation as much as you don't include "zbwaglüpf". What's "zbwaglüpf"? What's "soul"?

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Those are probably near infrared images as usual. The dark patches might not be dark in visible spectrum. Of course, hardly anyone at NASA gives a crap about providing the general public with such information.

Time to leave Kerbin. Experimental junk craft cuts through air. Some plasma as apoapsis is being extended upwards to reach 164 km. Arriving at the parked ship. "This is the captain speaking. Welcome to Kron 4. If you look through the window on your left, you'll see the ship." Engineer Bill connecting the two ships. soundtrack: An der schönen blauen Donau, Op. 314 Johann Strauss II.

Look at all these sentient legs having feelings and .....

Wow, that's a true mothership. Where is the heatshield? Or will you just use the engine for orbital insertion? Will you use Hofmann or hyperbolic trajectory?

Feeling is a synonim for emotion. Cats have feelings. Crocodiles have, too, but primitive ones because that's all their kind of brain allows. Humans have the most developed ones, far better developed than any other animal because we have the most developed neocortical matter. Sensation is something else. And yet, plants don't even have sensations because sensation requires input data processing. Most animals have sensations, some of which result in reflex movements. Plants don't have processing and they don't even have peripheral nervous system. Plants are just responsive to stimuli in a bit more developed way than an amoeba is to a concentration gradient of H3O+ cations. That's what makes them alive. They respond to stimuli, having nastic movements (nondirectional) and tropisms (directional). If you zap the plant with high voltage it will "faint" right in front of your eyes. That's not because it's sad, but because it's lost its turgor, pressure created by osmosis. As Kryten said, photosynthesis has been performed. We know details of that metabolic pathway and much more. I had to learn this chart. One of the most annoying things ever.

Oh, I've just learned what the verb "shipping" means. All this time I thought you were talking about actual ships. No, I do not intend to focus the story on anything like that. For all I care, they all multiply like large cells. No need for getting into complications.

Oh now I see you wrote Jebetina/Valentiah. I doubt there will be anything like that. I'd like to keep things goofy.

Yes, the ship will be flown by two of them. Bill is the engineer and Bob is doing science.

I've already made the vessel cause I do stuff in advance. Kerbal scientists and engineers have organized a farewell party for the crew. Here they are, joking about the supposedly cheap main heatshield. Valentina, Bob and Bill aren't very amused. As most of the money went to rebuilding the frontal part of Kron 4 and launching huge amounts of fuel for it, not much as been left for anything else. Wernher decided to make a launch vehicle from spare parts found in the spaceplane hangar. And boosters. It should work.

I like the worm logo. o.o

You never know everything, but that does not mean you know nothing. Plant physiology is an extremely, thoroughly investigated subject and there is not a single shred of evidence to support those claims. So you hold science as "you never know all the answers", yet you hold Oxford English infallible? I guess I'm not the one making bold statements. I perfectly understand the amount of work that goes into making something like that, but that's because there's a lot of stuff to do. I've seen plenty of crap in various dictionaries and encyclopedias. Textbook myths, obsolete values, etc. The least errors are usually encountered in narrow subject books, as opposed to books on everything.

Oxford dictionary is hardly an authority on physiology. Dictionaries often fail miserably when it comes to natural sciences because they're made by people who usually have no way of understanding what's correct and what's not among the related concepts. It boils down to twisting the word meanings (or using different languages where such words have different meanings) and using that confusion to make ill advised definitions and claims. What does it mean "to perceive" and what does it mean "to feel"? It's neccessary to distinguish basic response to stimuli (excitability) and higher order functioning, which is not just the sum of all responses. It's an emergent property. There are several steps of higher order functions, and the last one is what humans have. None of them is merely a sum. Even basic response to stimuli isn't at the bottom. Physical reactions are at the bottom - interactions of electrical fields. Then go the chemical ones - arranged fields creating molecular infrastructure. Sum of chemical reactions yields a higher property in bacteria - metabolism. After that goes taxis. For example positive phototaxis in photosynthetic flagellate bacteria: cells are actively moving towards the positive gradient of the light. Or positive chemotaxis when cells move along the increasing matter concentration gradient. There isn't a line between excitability and sentience - there are several steps of order. Plants are very low on that ladder.

Jebediah talking to Kerty.

Lower atmosphere of Venus is a supercritical fluid. It's not gas, it's not liquid. It's kind of both in the same time. You don't fire anything through such fluid. Aerodynamics breaks down in such environment. The only thing applicable would be an aerostat, but good luck making one that could withstand the pressure. I'd compare it to making a vacuum baloon on the surface of Earth, but worse.

Using your sense, we should say "The Kerbin" and "The Kerbol". But we don't. Cause it's ridiculous. Mun/Mün is Mun/Mün, The Moon is The Moon (in some languages, in most of them it's just one word). Anyone who calls KSP "Kerbal" is a shallow famous-youtuber-wannabe kind of type in my book. Those people don't know what that word means. I know.

I will look into it, thanks.

Phytoplankton is not plants. Plants are Plantae. Phytoplankton is photosynthetic free floating organisms and vast majority (basically a rule) is very tiny, microscopic algae (Eukaryota) and photosynthetic bacteria (Cyanobacteria, purple bacteria, ...). Sentience is in no way connected to Plantae. Not "a kind of". None. I see some people here mention the possible long time it takes for the communication, and comparing us to highspeed communicating species which could (but would not) consider us as nonsentient beings, but no. That is a false comparison. By all standards, a freshly removed human kidney has more "sentience" becuase it actually has nerves, but it's a misuse of the word. Sentience is a higher order function. We can not twist the word to fit our expectations. Sentience requires nervous infrastructure and certain qualities of it. There is absolutely no trace of anything like that in Plantae, just like there is no trace of it in Fungi. People sticking needles in plants, burning their leaves and watching the dials go mad, then claiming plants suffer are nothing more than quacks. That is no science, and anything they do has already been done and was thoroughly investigated and explained by others during the enormous period. Plant physiology is way better investigated simply because plants won't run away and are relatively low maintenance organisms. Such claims would, if proven, mean a revolution in the whole natural science. That would be absolutely huge. It's funny how such quacks always aim so high, and always end up so low. Why not starting with something simple? Nooo, let's try to overturn everything.

No study shows anything like that. It's complete ......... Plant physiology is one of the most thoroughly examined fields of science and there is none, I repeat, none evidence to support any notion of that. Yes, cells do communicate (it's what makes them alive), but there is no higher level communication whatsoever. Even the simplest animals like cnidarians are way more developed than plants with obvious action potential generation capabilities like venus flytraps, and cnidarians don't even have any form of central nervous system. No sentience, no feelings, no thinking. Just more or less developed reaction to stimulus, always pathetic compared to the most primitive multicellular animals.

Good to hear the great news.

Dedicated age groups wouldn't work. I'm saying that from my experience. Official KSP Steam group is a wasteland where rarely anyone speaks anything, and the KSP Forum Steam group is usually little over ten people. I don't even know why do people join groups if they don't want to use them.

Similar thing happens with cooling. After some mark (100x, perhaps), heated stuff like previously run LV-N abruptly cools down to the thermal equilibrium. Heat simply doesn't work well with timewarping, and to reach Kerbol at normal time... that would last for a "while".

The last refueling mission was flown by Jebediah, Bill and Bob, who had to make sure Kron 4 was ready to do some science. Blue tank was a delivery of pure oxidizer. Also, some additional monopropellant was brought along. The ship is ready. It's filled to the top. Mission control is testing Kerty, the onboard computer while the crew is enjoying their last days on Kerbin before they head to Urlum.

Install Outer Planets Mod. It will prolong the satisfaction. ( á° Üʖ á°)