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I pitted the HEI-45 against the Micro AIV and it didn't fare well. It'd make a great supersonic bomber, but it might be too heavy for a dog fighter. You're welcome to download the Micro AIV above to test it against your new design.

@goduranus Ok, another Micro redesign. The Micro AIV: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro AIV.craft Also, just another note. Since positioning is so important to the match, and the AI does wacky stuff, best of 3 matches would probably remove some victory randomness. Though, I understand that it's 3x the work.

It's not worth spending the time unless I plan to add to it, and right now I rather actually play the game. I give you permission to stop checking this thread so you don't get annoyed, god forbid.

@goduranus Throwing down again for the non-spaceship jet dogfight, this time with more ECM and a redesigned wing. Micro AIII: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro AIII.craft

@goduranus Presenting the faster and fiercer Micro AII: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro AII.craft

Wow, that gun kill was awesome! Back to the drawing board.

@goduranus For your consideration, the Micro A: https://u66999462.dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Micro A.craft

Is this challenge canceled?

I'd give this challenge a try if it weren't for this. This just buries the design in tedium trying to add draggy parts to it to slow it down. I rather try to create an elegant and light craft.

Added Chinese version of guide to front page, along with backup mirrors for both French and Chinese guides. Thanks for your translation work! As for the guide itself, I know drag has since changed from when the tut was created, but the rest of the guide is still very useful.

I love this pack! Keep up the great work!

Thank you folks for reporting bugs. Currently, KAX is not in active maintenance or development. My efforts are being spent on developing a strategy card game at the moment. https://www.ablearcher83.com/ http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=850261606

Yeah, I'm not too thrilled that 1800 posts were lost. At least I was able to restore the OP from web cache.

A pack of select vanilla-inspired parts for your aircrafting needs! Powered by Firespitter, special thanks to Snjo for his plugin and continued support! Download: KAX v2.6.4 for KSP 1.2.2 Curse Download Mirror Image Album: http://imgur.com/a/hXkEA Included Parts: -Turboprop -Radial Engine -Electric Propeller -Helicopter Main Rotor -Helicopter Tail Rotor -Heavy Landing Gear -Jump Jet Engine -2M Aircraft Cockpit -2M Fuselage (jet fuel) -2M Structural Fuselage (empty) -2M Tail Boom Installation: Extract the KAX folder, Firespitter folder, and ModuleManager.dll into your KSP Gamedata folder. Be sure to properly extract the Firespitter/Resources folder or you will have FScoolant errors on loading the electric prop. If you already have Firespitter and/or Module Manager, use the latest versions of their .dll plugins. Changelog: v2.6.1 -Reduced volume SFX of Main Rotor & Tail Rotor -Added stagepriorityflow to Main Rotor for proper fuel flow v2.6 -Complete rebuild of Main Rotor to improve animation -Overhaul on animation for Main Rotor and Tail Rotor -Added KAX Choppah example craft v2.5.4 -Fixed Tail Rotor animation -Tail Rotor now produces 15 thrust to compensate for broken Firespitter rotor control MODULE. Maximum thrust can still be adjusted in-game; set to 0 for aesthetic use. -Improved Main Helicopter Rotor torque control v2.5.3 -Compatibility patch for KSP 1.0.5 v2.5.2 -Heli Rotor now has torque -Minor fixes for Rotor and Tail Rotor -Updated Firespitter.dll v2.5.1 -Balance work on Turbo, Radial, and Sport engines -Engines will now draw fuel evenly from all tanks -Updated packaged Firespitter.dll to 7.0.5613.30088 -Moved Radial and Sport engines to Aviation tech tree -Reduced price on Radial and Sport engines v2.5 -Added A7 Aerosport 2-bladed prop -Fixed sound pitch for all engines -Added KAX Horizon and KAX Bungalow example craft -Textures converted to .dds v2.4.2 -Reduced heat output of all engines -Increased thrust of electric prop -Increased electrical efficiency of electric prop -Decreased volume of electric prop, turboprop, and radial engine -Added KAX Predator and KAX ESpirit example craft -Updated KAX Sparrow example craft -Updated packaged Firespitter.dll to 7.0.5609.6768 v2.4.1 -Updated packaged Firespitter.dll to v7.0.5603.17274 -Tweaked thrust output for Turboprop & Radial prop (note: this is a temp fix) -Redesigned KAX Sparrow example craft v2.4 -Updated packaged Firespitter.dll to v7.0.5598.23279 -Updated packaged module manager to v2.6.3 -Cleaned out old example craft -Added new KAX Sparrow flying wing example -Fixed attachment issue -Increased Kuey Main Rotor thrust from 65 to 105 -Reduced volume of Turbo Prop and Radial Prop -Updated thrust curves for Turbo Prop and Radial Prop (note: might be out of balance for 1.0.2) v2.3.4 -Updated Firespitter.dll with RadarManFromTheMoon's rotor thrust switching fix -Kuey Tail Rotor now properly switches thrust with user input -Fixed KAX Agents .cfg v2.3.3 -Fixed prop hub freeze issue -Increased electricProp thrust from 6 to 7 v2.3.2 -Module Manager support added for FAR -Added VentureStar AMP Example Craft v2.3.1 -Compatibility patch for KSP 0.90.0 -Updated Firespitter.dll to v7.0.5463.30802 -Fixed incompatibilities with FAR/NEAR mod v2.3 -Compatibility patch for KSP 0.25.0 -Updated Firespitter.dll to v7.0.5398.27328 -Updated example crafts -Fixed Kuey Tail Rotor animation v2.2.2 0.24 HOTFIX, Note: Not all features have been reimplemented -Updated Firespitter.dll to v7.0.5313.17967 -Fixed Kuey Main Rotor -Adjusted thrust on Kuey Main Rotor to account for changes in Firespitter aero model v2.2.1 -Removed props blur disk cast shadows -Added blade colliders to turboProp and radialProp -Performance changes to turboProp and radialProp: radial now has better takeoff performance, turbo now has better high altitude cruise performance -Reduced mass of heavy gear -Reduced mass of 2M structural fuselage -Reduced tailRotor volume -Fixed radialProp thrustTransform to align with prop -Rescaled radialProp, turboProp, jumpJet, kueyRotor, and tailRotor to rescaleFactor 1.0 v2.2 -Added NS90 Tail Rotor (found in the Control parts section) -Added blade colliders to Main Rotor and Tail Rotor; they will now impact with objects and parts they touch while spinning -Reduced unnecessarily large texture size on Kuey Main Rotor -Updated XH-7 LIFTR with new tail rotor v2.1.1 -Increased performance of Kuey Main Rotor to improve lifting power [using KAS] -Replaced XH-5 Hopper with XH-7 LIFTR v2.1 -Added KH-1 Kuey Main Rotor -Added XH-5 Hopper helicopter in example crafts folder -Changed jumpjet part name to KAXjumpjet (save breaking) -Updated packaged Firespitter.dll to 6.3.5239.37254 -Added ReadMe file with credits v2.0 -Added Radial Engine -Added KAX P-25 "Pee Wee" to crafts examples folder -Turboprop thrust reduced by 10%, but will now perform better at higher altitudes -Turboprop tech unlock moved to Advanced Aerodynamics v1.9.1 -Fixed FX offsets on Jump Jet -Reduced thrust on Jump Jet v1.9 -Added Jump Jet Engine -Fixed KAX Kerbardier Dash-8 .craft in example crafts folder. It will now load properly. v1.8.1 -Added hatch and generic cockpit interior to Horizon cockpit; Kerbals will now enter and exit properly. Note: Hatch located on left back side near circular window. v1.8 -Added Heavy Structural Fuselage -Added Heavy Fuselage (2M jet fuel) -Added KAX Kerbalheed TriStar .craft in example crafts folder v1.7 -Added Heavy Tail Boom -Removed FSanimateThrottle from electric prop to fix null errors v1.6 -Added C2-B Horizon cockpit v1.5.3 -Fixed Turboprop shutdown sound v1.5.2 -Fixed Heavy gear right click menu -Increased heavy gear brake strength v1.5.1 -Updated to latest Firespitter.dll (included) -Further reduced heavy gear wobble; craft should no longer flip or steer off the runway v1.5 -Adjusted heavy gear physics to reduce wobble -Heavy gear now attaches in the correct direction in the editors (NOTE: You will have to rotate the existing heavy gear on your crafts 180 degrees) -Added turboprop shutdown sounds -Added updated Firespitter.dll with sound fixes (thanks Snjo!) -Added intake to turboprop v1.4 -Turboprop and Electric prop part names renamed in config to prevent conflicts with other mods (NOTE: SAVE/CRAFT BREAKING) -Turboprop thrust reduced and curve values changed for balance -Turboprop fuel efficiency increased v1.3 -Complete Unity rebuild of GS-580 Heavy Gear Assembly to fix animation timing and parenting -Minor tweaks to other parts v1.2 -GS-580 Heavy Gear Assembly added v1.1 -e50 Electric Propeller Engine added V1.1 -PT100 Turboprop made lighter -Fixed prop rotation -Polished animation transition -Added KAX Kerbardier Dash-8 .craft in example crafts folder v1.0 -PT100 Turboprop /r/kerbalspaceprogram release known issues: -Heli Tail Rotor doesn't produce thrust (dependent on Firespitter.dll) -Heli Main Rotor hover feature inoperable (dependent on Firespitter.dll) -Add ladder to cockpit so Kerbals can exit and enter properly License: -Copyright Overview- KAX models, textures, and sounds are created by Keptin, who retains all copyrights. Snjo retains all rights for the Firespitter plugin. You may: Modify KAX in anyway for your personal use Use KAX models, textures, and assets to create derivative works Distribute sufficiently modified versions of KAX parts or newly created derivative parts Distribute video, screenshots or other media portraying unmodified or modified versions of KAX All other rights are reserved Specifically, you may not: Distribute unmodified versions of KAX, in part or whole, without permission Use KAX for any commercial purpose For help on how to make aircraft in KSP, see my guide: http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/52080-Basic-Aircraft-Design-Explained-Simply-With-Pictures

Thanks for the update Snark -KAX dev

I should update this at some point. Thankfully the drag model has changed since it was created, but much of what you see there still applies. There's more to touch on, like empennage design, but the original goal of the guide was to give players a starting point to create their own designs and learn beyond that from trial and error, which I think it still succeeds in.

Hey folks, KAX won't be officially supporting KSP 1.1 until its release. For the experimental version of 1.1 available to Steam users, you can find the Firespitter for 1.1 pre-release here, https://github.com/snjo/Firespitter/releases, and use the Firespitter.dll to replace the one in the KAX's included Firespitter folder.

Thanks much RoverDude for continuing to maintain this plugin for the mods that rely on it!

Thank you so much Snjo & RoverDude for your continued development and support of Firespitter! KAX and many other mods wouldn't be possible without it. It's a fantastic mod and powerful plugin to develop for. Also, your tidy and detailed documentation on git is a rarity in modding. To me, Firespitter is a community staple.

Life has been pretty busy and I haven't made time to update, but yes, plenty of things have changed. I've got a list of edits to make to the tut once I get to it, and that's one of them. Most of the information is still relevant.

KAX dev here. Tetryds, thanks for putting in the legwork to host this awesome challenge! I've been too busy to participate, but enjoy watching from the sidelines. Looks like a blast! I also wanted to give you peeps a heads up that once KSP 1.1 drops, KAX will be updated with balance tweaks. This may affect existing designs.

Put the latest Helion design up to t3hJimmer's F-4 Destroyer Mk3 with interesting results. The Helion has a weak spot for missiles, but proves deadly up close. Also added a neat little kills counter. I filmed it at a very wide view since I think it better shows the positioning of the aircraft teams--it's more telling than watching up close. *edit*-seems I miscounted; forgot to count the Helion suicide run into the corpse of one of the Destroyers. Final score should be 8-6 Helion. Helion III-D craft file: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66999462/Helion%20IIID.craft

Personally, I'm in the BD Armory and maybe FAR only crowd. Some mods are so terribly broken balance wise that it becomes a hack fest--who can use the most broken parts. I dig the X-style take off. The one thing I might change for official trials is setting the aircraft up further away from each other, maybe teams start 1km away from the runway on each side. One last thing. 30mm cannons should be more points than the 20mm. They hit way harder, and although are heavier, they're really a ground assault weapon. Imho, they're a little cheaty, but with a higher point value might be balanced.

That music got me so hype. +1 for sweet video presentation, showing both team's jets, etc. Some great combat there. For the sake of even tourneys the FoV and altitude are the two things I've been setting evenly across whatever aircraft I test. I take it for the tourny there'll be an official FoV & altitude so aircraft will duke it out in the same airspace. I used 360 deg view, 900m min alt, and 2475m preferred for both team's craft since one of the early face offs with other player's jet used those figures. The jets that position and attack first have a huge advantage, hence the reasoning for setting them all the same.

I pit the F-7 Vulture against the Helion III-B with deadly results. The second Helion takes a missile at 0:42 and keeps on fighting! The Vultures are quite well armored, but it comes at the cost of a lower thrust-to-weight ratio. Helion III-B TWR: 5.93 F-7 Vulture: 4.72 Round #1: Round #2: