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  1. Quote of the day:

    Clearly, unless thinking beings inevitably wipe themselves out soon after developing technology, extraterrestrial intelligence could often be millions or billions of years in advance of us. We're the galaxy's noodling newbies.

    Seth Shostak
    (
    Jul 20, 1943 -           )
    Quote taken from his book, Confessions of an Alien Hunter: A Scientist' Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence, first published in 2009.
     
    Seth Shostak is an American astronomer, currently Senior Astronomer for the SETI Institute and former Director of Center for SETI Research when it was a separate department. Shostak grew up in Arlington County, Virginia, and earned his B.S. in physics from Princeton University and a Ph.D. in astrophysics from the California Institute of Technology. Since 2001, he has been Senior Astronomer at the SETI Institute, a not-for-profit organization whose mission is to “explore, understand and explain the origin, nature and prevalence of life in the universe”. SETI Institute, located in Mountain View, California, employs over 50 researchers that study all aspects of the search for life, its origins, the environment in which life develops, and its ultimate fate. Shostak is an active participant in the Institute’s observation programs and has been hosting SETI's weekly radio show Big Picture Science since 2002. (Wikipedia Commons)
    1. Dman979

      Dman979

      Try Stellaris. :wink:

       

    2. adsii1970
    3. Dman979

      Dman979

      It's a game about space-faring civilizations. I figured that it was kinda relevant here.

  2. Nice mod... just checked out the OP. Hoping to see more like this... :D

    1. SamBelanger

      SamBelanger

      Thanks for the comment :)
       

  3. Quote of the day:

    "Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves."

    Carl Sagan
    (Nov 09, 1934 - Dec 20, 1996)
    Quote taken from his book, The Pale Blue Dot, originally published in 1995)

    Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer, cosmologist, astrophysicist, astrobiologist, author, science popularizer, and science communicator in astronomy and other natural sciences. He is best known for his work as a science popularizer and communicator. His best known scientific contribution is research on extraterrestrial life, including experimental demonstration of the production of amino acids from basic chemicals by radiation. Sagan assembled the first physical messages sent into space: the Pioneer plaque and the Voyager Golden Record, universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them. Sagan argued the now accepted hypothesis that the high surface temperatures of Venus can be attributed to and calculated using the greenhouse effect. (Wikipedia Commons)

  4. Quote of the day:

    "Man is an artifact designed for space travel. He is not designed to remain in his present biologic state any more than a tadpole is designed to remain a tadpole."

    William S. Burroughs II
    (Feb 05, 1914 - Aug 02, 1997)
    Quote taken from his essay, "Civilian Defense" as contained in his book, The Adding Machine, first published in 1985.

    William Seward Burroughs II was an American writer. Burroughs was a primary figure of the Beat Generation and a major postmodernist author whose influence is considered to have affected a range of popular culture as well as literature. Burroughs wrote eighteen novels and novellas, six collections of short stories and four collections of essays. Five books have been published of his interviews and correspondences. He also collaborated on projects and recordings with numerous performers and musicians, and made many appearances in films. He was also briefly known by the pen name William Lee. (Wikipedia Commons)

     

  5. If you are bored this summer and want to be a permanent part of Kerny's journal, I have an opportunity for you!

    It involves using Kopernicus to create a new star system... I'm in need of a blue dwarf star that can be seen during the night-time sky (and maybe during the day-time sky, too). Here are the list of requirements for this star...

    • It must be compatible with Outer Planet Mod (OPM).
    • Light emitted must be blue-white and be intense enough to be seen in the Kerbin night-sky.
    • It must be a dwarf. Smaller than Kerbol yet no smaller than Kerbin. (Reference: https://www.reference.com/science/white-dwarf-form-5386a75a47c83762)
    • No gas planets and no small rocky planets.
      • Blue white stars are formed, as so we believe, when either a red giant explodes and re-condenses or out of a nebula.
      • In the case of the story I am doing, it has been formed after the collapse of a red super giant.
      • Small asteroids are fine, but they cannot be any larger than the medium sized ones found in the game.
        • Remember, the explosive force of a star blowing and then condensing would destroy any gas planets and rocky worlds.
        • With the rocky worlds, I imagine only fragments of the rocky worlds would remain.
        • No more than three asteroids.
    • Within reason, you'll have naming rights to the star you create.
      • No vulgar names. Must be rated "PG" friendly.
      • You can name any asteroids you have orbiting the star.

    I've tried piddling with Kopernicus but because of the schedule I keep, I do not have the time needed to devote to becoming an expert at making planet packs and figuring out how to add another star. But if you want to give it a shot, this would help me tremendously.

    1. Kerbinchaser

      Kerbinchaser

      Curses. I can't mod. Is there another way I can sneak in there? :D 

  6. Update and observation 3:
    Now grading for World Civilization to 1500

    "Facts" I never knew about world civilization...

    • The Roman Republic fell when Caesar forgot his lexicon.
    • The crusades began when the Shriners put up collection points along the Silk Road.
    • Early attempts for global trade didn't go well. They didn't have airplanes or good roads. They had to rely on the underground railroad.
    • Columbus founded the colony of Columbia, in what is now South Carolina.
    • The Crusades started as Russia began to expand into Mongolia.
    • The Holy Roman Empire was made up of Romans who fought to liberate Europe from Germans who were Muslim invaders.

    Other student observations:

    • Student comment on an exam: "I should have taken this class more seriously. The Holy Roman Empire kicked my butt..."  (word changed to be forum friendly)
    • Student comment on an exam: "I don't think this exam is a fair assessment of who I am. I did really good in history in high school. You make us remember too many facts..."
    • Student comment on an exam: "You claim the classical Chinese and Greeks knew the world was a sphere. This is a lie, the earth is flat. NASA lies."

    I am taking a break from grading since I now have two classes done. The next class, another World Civilization, will take about three hours. It is an on-line class and has 40 student exams to grade.

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    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      You're right about that, @monstah!

      And now for something completely different...

      :D Enjoy! (It's one of my favorite skits!)

    3. Wildcat111

      Wildcat111

      "I don't think this exam is a fair assessment of who I am. I did really good in history in high school. You make us remember too many facts..."

      WAKE UP!!!!! YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO REMEMBER THE FACTS!!!!!!!!!

      That's what exams are for.

    4. Urses

      Urses

      The biggest problem is this ppl don't understand that facts are here bc we have a history and we have a chance to learn from it and hopefully evade old mistakes... but no... "you let us remember to many..." i think it is not much enough...

  7. Update and observation 2:

    "Facts" I never knew about American history...

    This is not a political thread, although the "facts" I am sharing here are actual answers that students have given for their final exam. The final exam covers a period of American history ranging from 1927 to 2000. I think a few of you might find some of the answers shockingly amusing. 

    • World War II started when the Germans bombed San Diego on December 7, 1941.
    • During World War II, Italy, Germany, and Russia united to defeat the Axis powers.
    • The Cuban Missile Crisis happened when President Johnson tried to annex Cuba for statehood.
    • The Berlin Wall was used by Sherwin-Williams to test the durability of paint. :D -um, NO!
    • Macintosh refers to a type of apple used in frozen apple pies... (Um, the term to identify was "Macintosh (MAC)" and was in a lecture about 1980s consumer culture...)

    Other student observations:

    • Each semester, students are required to complete four exams for the course; each one has an assigned due date. Never submit all four exams on the same date. There's a good chance your instructor isn't going to grade the late ones.
    • Students know the last week of class is the last week. Never email your instructor after final grades are posted to ask can you do extra credit.  Um, not going to happen.
    • Never tell your professor the topic you chose for your term paper was dumb and your professor should have warned you (Yeah, I did that but the student insisted they could do it - sometimes you have to let them smack into  brick wall. Oh, and I keep copies of the emails...).

    One class completely done - and now on to the next course! (It's World Civilization to 1500).

    1. NSEP

      NSEP

      I read in an educational comic book a long time ago that Axis fought against Axis during the end, but i was never that sure. Thanks, interesting stuff!

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      I'm now grading my world civ class. There are some pretty interesting answers I've had so far.

    3. Wildcat111

      Wildcat111

      The Berlin Wall one made me laugh for 5 minutes straight!

  8. Today's task is grading the massive amounts of assignments so that I can post grades by midnight, tonight. I figured that I'd give you periodic updates...

    Update and observation 1:

    Never email your professor an hour after the final exam is due to tell them, "I want to drop the course." Haha, good luck, buttercup. The last day to drop was nearly two weeks ago. Not going to happen. Out of 1,750 possible points (that's the maximum number available), this princess only earned 53. Yup, not even enough points to fail the course!

    1. Dman979

      Dman979

      Ouch, that's no fun.

    2. Wildcat111
  9. Quote of the day:

    "If Earth is considered a closed system, there will be less for all forever. The frontier is closed, the wilderness is gone, nature is being destroyed by human consumers, while billions are starving. The future indeed looks grim, and there are, ultimately, no really long-range, positive solutions, nor motivation for making the sacrifices and doing the hard work needed now, unless we understand that we are evolving from an Earth-only toward an Earth-space or universal species."

    Barbara Marx Hubbard
    (Dec 22, 1929 -                   )
    As quoted in an editorial, Distant Star, 1997 (Electronic Magazine of the First Millennial Foundation)

    Barbara Marx Hubbard is a futurist, author and public speaker. She is credited with the concepts of ‘The Synergy Engine’ and the 'birthing' of humanity. A Jewish agnostic, her father was toy maker Louis Marx. In her youth she attended the Dalton School in New York City. She studied at L'Ecole des Sciences Politiques at La Sorbonne in Paris during her junior year of college, and received a B.A. cum laude in Political Science from Bryn Mawr College in 1951. (Wikipedia Commons)

  10. I've returned home after a quick trip to see my father. Personally, I do not care what your view of the Vietnam War is, but he is a Vietnam War veteran who did five combat tours between 1962 and 1975. He now is suffering from Agent Orange poisoning and all the related cancers and health conditions. He's 74 and I know we will not have too many more visits with him left - his doctors do not expect he has much longer than a year. His body is shutting down and he is not a chemo candidate - not that he wants it anyway. We may not have seen eye to eye, but he continues to be one of the heroes in my life. If you are a teen, don't ever go to bed angry at your parents. You never know when life may play one of those cruel jokes. You never know what moment may be the last chance you have to spend with them.

    Overall, we had a good visit and while he was in one of the many mid-day five hour naps, I took my wife and 6-year old daughter on a quick trip to the Stennis Space Center along the Louisiana/Mississippi Gulf Coast. (This had a dual purpose. My daughter wants to be one of the first astronauts to go to the asteroid belt. She, like me, is fascinated by all things space related. And it gave my dad a chance to have some quiet time for his much-needed nap that day).

    I've created a heavily edited photo album to share with you. The engine with my daughter on my shoulders is from the first stage of a Saturn V rocket, what would have been Apollo 20, had the program not been cancelled. The assembly laying on its side is from the cancelled Apollo 19 mission. And yes, I touched it!

     

     

     

    1. monstah

      monstah

      Man, those F5's sure are sexy. 

      Best wishes to your dad, man. War is a horrible thing that harms everyone, and it's sad to see this harm even so many years later. 

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      @monstah: Thank you. I appreciate your kind words. And yes, those F5s are pretty hot. I'd love to witness one of them on the test tower... The NASA guide said that the viewing area for the Apollo tests were 2 miles from the tower because of the noise level.

      Oh, here's an article on NASA's page and the test images are from the testing platform in the picture I shared. It's a view from the canal that paralells the SAB (Stage Assembly Building) and test stands.

      https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/engine-test-marks-major-milestone-on-nasa-s-journey-to-mars

  11. So much to do, but it will have to wait until next week...

    I've just got word my father's health is turning for the worse. He's 74 and is suffering from Agent Orange related cancers/poisonings. So, later this evening, I am on my way to his hometown until Sunday. I'll be back on-line Monday. Until then, please do not blow up the forum... this is about the only place I hang out on-line!

    When I come back I will be adding a chapter, updating the OP on the "Legends in our own minds" thread, and some other stuff.

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    2. Dman979

      Dman979

      I'm deeply sorry to hear that, Adsii. I hope that you can spend as much time with him as possible.

    3. Just Jim

      Just Jim

      I am so sorry. Call me if you need anything.

    4. Wildcat111

      Wildcat111

      Frankly, I agree with @Dman979. Sometimes, you don't appreciate life unitll it's almost over, so @adsii1970, hope you dad gets well soon.

  12. Another fascinating article... thought I'd share it here.

    Jupiter is the oldest planet in the Solar System

    Jupiter's ancient name really is well-deserved: according to a new study, the king of the planets isn't just the largest in the Solar System, it's also the oldest. A team of researchers from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in California and the University of Munster in Germany have determined that Jupiter's core was already 20 times the size of Earth merely 1 million years after the sun took shape 4.6 billion years ago. Since newborn stars tend to release energy that blows away gas and dust for planet formation, the gas giant must have had to absorb materials very, very fast. (Excerpt from the article)

    1. Urses

      Urses

      What makes me courious is the statement "between two stars".

      Isn't there a Theorie that Sun have a brown dwarf partner? This would be a evidence more for this one.

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      @Urses: I remember, as a child, watching NOVA and there was an episode with Carl Sagan - I was in middle school at the time. Anyhow, he made it clear on this particular episode that Jupiter had everything needed to become a star - except the nuclear reaction in it's core. Then a few years later, the movie 2010: The Year We Made Contact came out - and within that movie (and I should add the book it is based on), Sir Arthur C. Clarke actually used that in his book/story - Jupiter became a star!

      To answer your observation, Yes, it is plausible. But what if as the solar system began to stabilize, if Sol's (the astronomic name of our sun) binary partner was tossed out of the system as Jupiter coalesced into the dense body we know it as today?

    3. Urses

      Urses

      Or as it postulated it is brown dwarf anf this means ot is not realy shiny and beyond the oort cloud... it may be there but we dont see it...

  13. Je suis tres fatigué pour profiter de ce jeu ou grand-chose d’autre.

    :huh:

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    2. Dman979

      Dman979

      I'm sorry you feel that way, Ascii. Let us know if/when you come back. :D

    3. NSEP

      NSEP

      Of course knew it was french lol.

    4. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      It's ok. Even my French and German are a bit rusty here lately... Not too bad considering that I've got brain damage and French is my second language...

      I think I may have been misunderstood... Right now, I use KSP for a break from reality... :confused: But here lately, I am so tired that it takes tremendous effort to get motivated to play. Especially when I am having to play "bug chaser" to figure out why 1.3 keeps crashing.

      As I told @Just Jim earlier today, I might just stick to 1.2.2 just to avoid being constantly in a foul mood.

  14. Ok, I am at a loss. I know one of the mods is causing this crash, but I have no idea which one. And for some reason, Steam/Windows 10 is doing that crap again where I cannot delete any folder in the GameData folder because I do not have "administrator priviledges..."

    But if someone smarter than I could take a look and see which one is the problem causing mod, I'd greatly appreciate it...

    https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mcxc4mtp46090j0/AACh4sy8QrSeMF4iVDtKMTnra?dl=0

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    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      @Snark:

      I've done a version of that, but in the old song, One Piece at a Time, I've done it one mod at a time. Three of the mods are dead, and that will give me something to piddle with in the next few weeks - to rip out their guts, redo the parts, and repackage, and post. I'm wait and see if the mod creators respond to my inquiry under the CC rules.  It will be a new experience for me, but one that I am looking forward to, nonetheless!

      As it stands, I am down to 1o mods that have not updated yet, but have a question about OPM... is it the same as it was before, where as long as Kopernicus is updated, it is good to go?

    3. monstah

      monstah

      If Kopernicus doesn't make any planet-breaking changes, then I suppose yes. My contract packs, for example, once Contract Configurator was updated I just threw them from my old GameData to the new one and they're A-OK.

    4. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      That's good. I'm doing a test boot now. All looks good. Is texture replacer still functional in 1.3?

  15. Quote of the day:

    "I'm sure we would not have had men on the Moon if it had not been for Wells and Verne and the people who write about this and made people think about it. I'm rather proud of the fact that I know several astronauts who became astronauts through reading my books."

    Arthur C. Clarke
    (Dec 16, 1917 - Mar 19, 2008)
    Quote taken from his work, The View from Serendip, first published in 1977.

    Sir Arthur Charles Clarke, CBE, FRAS was a British science fiction writer, science writer and futurist, inventor, undersea explorer, and television series host. (Wikipedia Commons)

    1. Urses

      Urses

      He is right. I know many people who has their first contacts with science through his books. He is one of the great along with Wells, Verne, Bradbery to name some.

      Thanks for sharing!

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      Not a problem. I wish I could remember to post them daily, which was my original intent... :/

  16. Love the new avatar. Looks sharp...

    1. Vanamonde

      Vanamonde

      Frybert made it. :D

  17. Quote of the day:

    "The Earth was small, light blue, and so touchingly alone, our home that must be defended like a holy relic. The Earth was absolutely round. I believe I never knew what the word round meant until I saw Earth from space."

    Aleksei Leonov
    (May 30, 1934 -               )
    Interview with the Soviet news agency, TASS, on March 24, 1965

    Alexey Arkhipovich Leonov is a retired Soviet/Russian cosmonaut, Air Force Major general, a writer and an artist. On 18 March 1965, he became the first human to conduct extravehicular activity, exiting the capsule during the Voskhod 2 mission for a 12-minute spacewalk. (Wikipedia Commons)

    1. NSEP

      NSEP

      Amazing. Alexei Leonov is one of my favourite Astronouts, behind Neil Armstrong and Vladimir Komarov. 

      Thanks for posting

  18. Wow, a new technological advance in aviation. This actually could make SSTO very feasible in real life.

    The article is called, "Plasma jet engines that could take you from the ground to space" and was published by the New Scientist yesterday (17/05/2017).

    plasma-stingray111-800x533.jpg
     

    1. Urses

      Urses

      It looks like we need tweckscale for real life engienes...

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      You know someone is going to mod this... And when they do... :D

    3. Urses

      Urses

      Imagine... somebody stay at side and "pump up" it on needed scale factor

      It is not only a enginiering breakthrough... it will be the end for 90% of plastic chirurgy:D

  19. Quote of the day:

    "This is the goal: To make available for life every place where life is possible. To make inhabitable all worlds as yet uninhabitable, and all life purposeful."

    Hermann Oberth
    (Jun 25, 1894 - Dec 28, 1989)
    Quote taken from his book, Man Into Space, first published in 1957

    Hermann Julius Oberth was an Austro-Hungarian-born German physicist and engineer. He is considered one of the founding fathers of rocketry and astronautics, along with the French Robert Esnault-Pelterie, the Russian Konstantin Tsiolkovsky and the American Robert Goddard. (Wikipedia Commons)

  20. Quote of the day:

    "One of the most thoughtless statements, parroted ad nauseam ever since rational concern for our environment exploded into an emotional syndrome, calls Man the only animal that soils its own nest. Every animal soils its nest with the products of its metabolism if unable to move away. Space technology gives us for the first time the freedom to leave our nest, at least for certain functions, in order not to soil it."

    Krafft Ehricke
    (March 24, 1917 - December 11, 1984)
    Quote taken from his article, "Extraterrestrial Imperative" in the quarterly publication, Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, 1971

    Krafft Arnold Ehricke was a German rocket-propulsion engineer and advocate for space colonization. Born in Berlin, Ehricke believed in the feasibility of space travel from a very young age, influenced by his viewing of the Fritz Lang film Woman in the Moon. At the age of 12, he formed his own rocket society. He attended Technical University of Berlin and studied celestial mechanics and nuclear physics under such luminaries as Hans Geiger and Werner Heisenberg, attaining his degree in Aeronautical Engineering. (Wikipedia Commons)

    1. Kerbinchaser

      Kerbinchaser

      Your Burt Rutan quote is making me sad. :(

    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      Why? Why does it make you sad?

       

       

       

    3. Kerbinchaser

      Kerbinchaser

      Because I think what he predicted won't come true. Wherner Von Braun predicted that we would have colonized Mars by now, and look at NASA. :/ 

  21. While I do not mind being contacted on the Steam messenger, I feel the need to dispel certain rumors that seem to be circulating. So far, in the last two weeks, I have been contacted by three separate people asking if I have been approached about my becoming a moderator. To set the record straight:

    I HAVE NOT BEEN APPROACHED BY ANYONE ON THIS FORUM ABOUT BECOMING A MODERATOR 

    The moderation team has its own criteria for selecting moderators. If you look above my dots, it clearly does not say MODERATOR, it says MEMBER, or some other thing... but definitely not MODERATOR. Yes, while I was asked to make the TOTM and TOTY tags, that's the the extent of my assistance to the forum in any sort of capacity resembling an "official" capacity. :huh:

    That is all. You may go back to your normal daily activities.

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    2. ZooNamedGames

      ZooNamedGames

      Well good to hear that it's better.

    3. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      @Urses - another example of my handiwork is above, in my profile header. Granted, all it is is just an image with a text overlay, but I am getting pretty good at them...

    4. Urses

      Urses

      Adsii i "stalk" you a little and i seen your badges works. My idea was something like Deedleys tread for nice surround on forums. Your Version would ne something around the thema "vulgarity of language" i think this is a important for a social communication between people.

      Swearing and offense make it hard to be polite with each other. Especially if it is the prefered form...

      Urses

  22. Quote of the day:

    "The crossing of space ... may do much to turn men's minds outwards and away from their present tribal squabbles. In this sense, the rocket, far from being one of the destroyers of civilisation, may provide the safety-value that is needed to preserve it."

    Sir Arthur C. Clarke
    (Dec 16, 1917 - Mar 19, 2008)
    Quote taken from his work, The Exploration of Space, first published in 1951

    Sir Arthur Charles Clarke, (16 December 1917 – 19 March 2008) was a British science fiction writer, science writer and futurist, inventor, undersea explorer, and television series host. He is perhaps most famous for being co-writer of the screenplay for the 1968 film 2001: A Space Odyssey, widely considered to be one of the most influential films of all time. Clarke was a science writer, who was both an avid populariser of space travel and a futurist of uncanny ability. On these subjects he wrote over a dozen books and many essays, which appeared in various popular magazines. In 1961 he was awarded the Kalinga Prize, an award which is given by UNESCO for popularizing science. These along with his science fiction writings eventually earned him the moniker "Prophet of the Space Age". His other science fiction writings earned him a number of Hugo and Nebula awards, which along with a large readership made him one of the towering figures of science fiction. (Wikipedia Commons)

  23. Food for the mind:

    Houghton_GC6_M4552_614m_-_Simon_Marius_-_cropped.jpgSimon Marius
    January 20, 1573 - December 26, 1624

    Simon Marius was a German astronomer. He was born in Gunzenhausen, near Nuremberg, but he spent most of his life in the city of Ansbach.

    He made observations of the heavens using a telescope and published yearly astronomical tables.

    Throughout most of his life, Marius was troubled with charges of copying data from other scientists. Although he named the four moons of Jupiter (Io, Europa, Gandymede, and Callisto) their discovery is generally credited to Galileo.

    In 1614 Marius published his work Mundus Iovialis describing the planet Jupiter  and its moons. Here he claimed to have discovered the planet's four major moons some days before Galileo Galilei. This led to a dispute with Galileo, who in Il Saggiatore in 1623 accused Marius of plagiarism. However, a jury in The Netherlands in 2003 examined the evidence extensively and ruled in favor of Marius's independent discoveries, with results published by Bosscha in 1907. Apparently Marius discovered the moons independently, but started keeping notes one day later than Galileo, when Marius's date in the Julian calendar is increased by 10 days to convert to the Gregorian calendar used by Galileo.

    Due to his strong religious beliefs, Marius never accepted the Copernican model of the universe.

    (Wikipedia Commons and Windows to the Universe)

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    2. adsii1970

      adsii1970

      Yup, I remember you saying that at one time. It actually had little to do with this post, however! :) I just find it fascinating that he is regarded today as a great astronomer and a pioneer in the field, yet nothing is mentioned about his faith. He was a devout German Catholic and because the Church had decreed the Copernican model as heresy, he saw no conflict in his rejection of the model.  Anyhow...

      I do not understand how modern society demands a divorce between science and religion and politics. A while back ago, I decided to step out of the "let's live in boxes" game...

    3. Just Jim

      Just Jim

      Oh, I hear ya! It's an amazing contradiction.... Jupiter's moons are clearly orbiting Jupiter... not the sun.... so the evidence was right there before his eyes... I wonder how he justified it to himself?

      I just also find it cool that I've visited the same town where he most likely did a lot of his observations. Lots of nice, dark farmland in the surrounding area... great stargazing country!

    4. Just Jim

      Just Jim

      I miss-wrote that last part... It should have read:

      "Jupiter's moons are clearly orbiting Jupiter... not the Earth..." 

      If he didn't believe in the Copernican model, then Jupiter's moons should have orbited the Earth, like the rest of the Universe... my bad.... :rolleyes:

       

  24. Quote of the day:

    "Well, Frank, my thoughts are very similar. The vast loneliness up here at the moon is awe-inspiring, and it makes you realize what you have back there on earth. The earth from here is a grand oasis in the big vastness of space."

    Jim Lovell
    (March 25, 1928 -                    )
    Quote taken from the live Apollo 8 broadcast on December 24, 1968

    James Arthur "Jim" Lovell Jr. is a former NASA astronaut and a retired captain in the United States Navy, most famous as the commander of the Apollo 13 mission, which suffered a critical failure en route to the Moon but was brought back safely to Earth by the efforts of the crew and mission control. Lovell was also the command module pilot of Apollo 8, the first Apollo mission to enter lunar orbit. He is a recipient of the Congressional Space Medal of Honor and the Presidential Medal of Freedom. He is one of only 24 people to have flown to the Moon, the first of only three people to fly to the Moon twice, and the only one to have flown there twice without making a landing. Lovell was also the first person to fly in space four times. (Wikipedia Commons)

  25. Quote of the day:

    "When the history of our galaxy is written, and for all any of us know it may already have been, if Earth gets mentioned at all it won't be because its inhabitants visited their own moon. That first step, like a newborn's cry, would be automatically assumed. What would be worth recording is what kind of civilization we earthlings created and whether or not we ventured out to other parts of the galaxy."

    Michael Collins
    ( Oct 31, 1930 -             )
    Quote taken from his book, Liftoff: The Story of America's Adventure in Space, first published in 1988.

    Michael Collins, retired Air Force Major General, is an American former astronaut and test pilot. Selected as part of the third group of fourteen astronauts in 1963, he flew into space twice. His first spaceflight was on Gemini 10, in which he and Command Pilot John Young performed two rendezvous with different spacecraft and Collins undertook two extra-vehicular activities (EVAs). His second spaceflight was as the Command Module Pilot for Apollo 11. While he stayed in orbit around the Moon, Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin left in the Lunar Module to make the first manned landing on its surface. He is one of 24 people to have flown to the Moon. Collins was the fourth person, and third American, to perform an EVA; and is the first person to have performed more than one EVA. (Wikipedia Commons)

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