Recon777 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=802006553168923LOL! I am legitimately surprised. Someone tell me they don't all believe this! I suppose this explains the lack of satellites launched by Arab nations. Though, with the phenomenal engineering on display in Dubai, one would think that such laughable ignorance given in this video is the exception rather than the rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN400 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 They don't all believe this. You will find nutjobs everywhere who will claim their favourite piece of litterature proves the Earth is [insert your favourite shape here] shaped. Also, http://www.space.gov.ae/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinkAllKerb'' Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) i just wonder if this guy board plane often or not ; ) something tell me the answer is yes ... concerning his auditorium ... (seen this vid also a few week month ago)they are few to play that game ; ) *shrug* not really something new ... *bis or ter or more* Edited May 26, 2015 by WinkAllKerb'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 LOL! I am legitimately surprised. Someone tell me they don't all believe this!Yes, all 1,6 billion muslims believe exactly the same. That is why they never fight each other, just like all christians believe exactly the same story and never disagree on how to interpret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicatrix Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Has anyone tried to actually translate what he says and compare it to what subtitles say? I don't know Arabic, but it may very well be that he talks of something completely different. Let's give him the benefit of doubt here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinkAllKerb'' Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 1,599 cama 1,599 ... 'sigh' but most important is what sonic the edgehog believe ; ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN400 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Has anyone tried to actually translate what he says and compare it to what subtitles say? I don't know Arabic, but it may very well be that he talks of something completely different. Let's give him the benefit of doubt here.He was very much noticed in Arab media and they didn't go easier on him than anyone else who realize that to eyeball the curvature you would need something bigger than a kitchen sink. Here's one neutral news story on that vidhttp://english.alarabiya.net/en/variety/2015/02/16/Saudi-cleric-Sun-revolves-around-stationary-Earth.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Has anyone tried to actually translate what he says and compare it to what subtitles say? I don't know Arabic, but it may very well be that he talks of something completely different. Let's give him the benefit of doubt here.That was the very first thing I thought, you should be careful taking taking things from Facebook for facts. However, the Memri institution has released this video with the same translation, which seems to indicate it is legit.There does seem to be a discussion about whether Memri is objective or not, but this does not seem to extend to faking subtitles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinkAllKerb'' Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) to me typically the kind of vid that could lead to bloodbath in the end presented like it is (translation accuracy ... objectivity ...) ... because silly difference things ...main matter remain it's interpretation whatever the side... most of the time also the kind of things that make me lost appetite ... Edited May 26, 2015 by WinkAllKerb'' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN400 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 to me typically the kind of vid that could lead to bloodbath in the end presented like it is (translation accuracy ... objectivity ...) ... because silly difference things ...main matter remain it's interpretation whatever the side... most of the time also the kind of things that make me lost appetite ...One reason why education in science is so important, why science literacy is so important and why it is so important to not be quiet whenever someone comes trundling along saying "ok that's it, science class closed" which seems to be the wet dream of quite a few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicatrix Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 That was the very first thing I thought, you should be careful taking taking things from Facebook for facts. However, the Memri institution has released this video with the same translation, which seems to indicate it is legit.There does seem to be a discussion about whether Memri is objective or not, but this does not seem to extend to faking subtitles.In this case I could only quote the saying 'Religion is a poison'. Nevertheless, there are different clerics and different weirdos and idiots in every nation. If I'm not mistaken, Charles Darvin's theory of evolution is (or could be) officially banned in some parts of the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 In this case I could only quote the saying 'Religion is a poison'. Nevertheless, there are different clerics and different weirdos and idiots in every nation. If I'm not mistaken, Charles Darvin's theory of evolution is (or could be) officially banned in some parts of the US.It was, at one point. I forget which case it was that made it unconstitutional to ban the theory... was it Brown v. Board of Education? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xannari Ferrows Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Earth is a fixed point... at the center of the observable universe.When you walk into another room, you do not move, but your universe moves around you.I just blew my own mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cicatrix Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Earth is a fixed point... at the center of the observable universe.When you walk into another room, you do not move, but your universe moves around you.I just blew my own mind. Albert Einstein said all frames of reference are equally valid so... you could be right and it is indeed you who are motionless and the universe has moved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endersmens Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 (edited) It was, at one point. I forget which case it was that made it unconstitutional to ban the theory... was it Brown v. Board of Education?Brown v. Board of Education was about "seperate but equal" and ended* segregation in school systems.*mostly Edited May 26, 2015 by Endersmens Woah, mega lag triple post. Removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Camacha Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 In this case I could only quote the saying 'Religion is a poison'.I would not say religion is poison, but the lack of education. In educated societies, religion pretty much always loses power when it comes to governmental and other non-personal entities. It is not a problem that people believe, it is a problem that they base decisions influencing other's lives on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderfound Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 It was, at one point. I forget which case it was that made it unconstitutional to ban the theory... was it Brown v. Board of Education?No, that's the "racist morons don't want diverse skin shades in their children's schools" case. The one you're thinking of is the Scopes Monkey Trial, as famously portrayed in the film Inherit the Wind.Incidentally, the pro-science side lost that case. And the descendants of the pro-gibberish side are still writing a lot of U.S. high school textbooks.BTW, worth a read for anyone interested in the present-day iterations of this nonsense: the judgement from Dover vs Kitzmiller.https://www.aclu.org/files/images/asset_upload_file577_23137.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwhip Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 No, that's the "racist morons don't want diverse skin shades in their children's schools" case. The one you're thinking of is the Scopes Monkey Trial, as famously portrayed in the film Inherit the Wind.Incidentally, the pro-science side lost that case. And the descendants of the pro-gibberish side are still writing a lot of U.S. high school textbooks.BTW, worth a read for anyone interested in the present-day iterations of this nonsense: the judgement from Dover vs Kitzmiller.https://www.aclu.org/files/images/asset_upload_file577_23137.pdfAha! Yes, that was it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LN400 Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Religion as such is definitely not the enemy of reason. It's how religion is interpreted and used. It goes for all religions. Baghdad was once one of the most scholared places on Earth, until the old caliph Harun ar-Rashid died and they got fights for power instead of the strife for more knowledge. Copernicus was religious. He still, albeit nervously, said the sun was really the one standing still. Newton was religious. Didn't stop him from being one of the most important figures in more modern physics and cosmology. Kepler too and that bloke was even into astrology.It's how it's all being used, misused and abused by some people. Either out of their own sheer, monumental ignorance combined with an urge to command other people around, or they somehow figured out there's a gain in there somewhere, for themselves, to preach something they honestly couldn't care less about was true or wrong, combined with an urge to command other people around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vanamonde Posted May 26, 2015 Share Posted May 26, 2015 Let's not get into what different religions and nationalities do and do not believe. It never ends well (2.2.b). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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