"Eve: Order Zero" -- a KSP Graphic Novel (POSTLUDE COMPLETE...bet you didn't see THAT coming.)

[Mister Dilsby]

[quote name='Sharkman Briton']You messed up the spoilers...[/quote]
Did I?

[quote]So hopefully you mean that this will all be cleared up in the next part of it... By the way on that trust part, I don't read much fiction ever (Only fiction thats not on KSP I remember is Animal Farm, which was awesome)[/QUOTE]
If by "this will all be cleared up" you mean "the meaning of the dozens of clues Kuzzter has been planting in the comic for several weeks now that explain what's really going on will become [I]completely [/I]obvious" ...then yes :)

[Noname117]

[quote name='Kuzzter']If by "this will all be cleared up" you mean "the meaning of the dozens of clues Kuzzter has been planting in the comic for several weeks now that explain what's really going on will become [I]completely [/I]obvious" ...then yes :)[/QUOTE]

I have a feeling that in doing so you'll just make it more convoluted and confusing.

[Sanic]

As I predicted...
Inception 2: Kerbfleet

Or maybe that mysterious figure is actually Kuzzter Kerman going by the name of Kenlie, who is very popular on the Kerbin Forums for his epic works of fiction based on the real space program.

[Starhawk]

And let me say now that there are literally many, many clues in many places about various aspects of the mysterious events. It's worth taking the time to look back through the last few chapters/updates with an eye to wondering what is going on.

There are important clues both in the visuals and in the dialogue.

Many clues have already been discussed, such as the reversed direction on the runway in certain shots. Bob's facial hair in the last panel makes clear (if it wasn't already) that we have at least a partial analogue of 'Mirror, Mirror', the classic Trek episode. There are also elements of the Romulans and the Klingons in the mix for flavour.

But both Kenlies have written or talked about imagery 'coming into their heads' unbidden. It doesn't sound to me like either one is making up the other as part of their fiction, but that they are both seeing images through the eyes of the other.

I hope that makes more sense. I'm sorry to spell out too much, but I couldn't bear to see Sharkman so unhappy about the story.

[SIZE=3]Trust Kuzzter![SIZE=2]

He wants us to have fun reading it as much as he wants to have fun writing it. He doesn't throw stuff down or make it happen lightly. He thinks about it and wants it to make sense along with being a fantastic ride.

Happy landings![/SIZE]

[/SIZE] Edited November 19, 2015 by Starhawk
accuracy

[Sharkman Briton]

[quote name='Kuzzter']Did I?


If by "this will all be cleared up" you mean "the meaning of the dozens of clues Kuzzter has been planting in the comic for several weeks now that explain what's really going on will become [I]completely [/I]obvious" ...then yes :)[/QUOTE]
I meant the spoiler tags on that reply.

[Angelo Kerman]

It's an interesting and fun turn of events. That, and krooton torpedoes for salads... :)

[Mister Dilsby]

[quote name='Noname117']I have a feeling that in doing so you'll just make it more convoluted and confusing.[/QUOTE]
Well, you've been with me for over 400 pages so far--so all I can say is...

[quote name='Starhawk'][SIZE=3]Trust Kuzzter![/SIZE][/QUOTE]
Thank you.

[quote name='Sanic']As I predicted...
Inception 2: Kerbfleet

Or maybe that mysterious figure is actually Kuzzter Kerman going by the name of Kenlie, who is very popular on the Kerbin Forums for his epic works of fiction based on the real space program.[/QUOTE]
Close! It's actually 'Wazzter', Walt Kerman's alter-ego ("Yeah, like I'm gonna use my real name") [spoiler="rant"]NO IT'S [I]NOT [/I]WALT DO I EVEN HAVE TO SAY THAT?![/spoiler]

[quote name='Sharkman Briton']I meant the spoiler tags on that reply.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I knew what you meant. But... [I]did [/I]I?

[quote name='Angel-125']It's an interesting and fun turn of events. That, and krooton torpedoes for salads... :)[/QUOTE]
They're very dangerous weapons; nothing left but slightly burnt crumbs!

[Sharkman Briton]

[quote name='Kuzzter']Well, you've been with me for over 400 pages so far--so all I can say is...


Thank you.


Close! It's actually 'Wazzter', Walt Kerman's alter-ego ("Yeah, like I'm gonna use my real name") [spoiler="rant"]NO IT'S [I]NOT [/I]WALT DO I EVEN HAVE TO SAY THAT?![/spoiler]


Yes, I knew what you meant. But... [I]did [/I]I?


They're very dangerous weapons; nothing left but slightly burnt crumbs![/QUOTE]
Wait a min theres gotta be something hidden there

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Now I wanna know why those spoiler tags aren't working

[Starhawk]

[quote name='Sharkman Briton']Wait a min theres gotta be something hidden there[/QUOTE]

No, there's nothing hidden there. The clues I'm talking about are in the comic itself!

[quote name='Sharkman Briton']Now I wanna know why those spoiler tags aren't working[/quote]

Spoiler tags only work if you give a title using [noparse][spoiler=Spoiler Title][/spoiler][/noparse]. If you leave out the title, the spoiler tags do not function.

Happy landings!

[Dman979]

[quote name='Starhawk']
Spoiler tags only work if you give a title using [noparse][spoiler=Spoiler Title][/spoiler][/noparse]. If you leave out the title, the spoiler tags do not function.
[/QUOTE]

And those worked because he went [noparse][noparse][spoiler=Spoiler Title][/spoiler][/noparse][/noparse]. I did the same, but with an extra noparse.

[Starhawk]

And another thing.

Kuzzter has spent a lot of time and pages setting up this scenario. It is clear by now (to me, at least) that this is not a diversion like Kenlie's slightly silly stories. There's something much more interesting and much deeper going on here.

Since I know that Kuzzter wants to tell us a story, I know that if he is setting the scenario up this carefully there is more to it. In the Star Trek episode 'Mirror, Mirror' the characters enter the alternate universe and meet some of its inhabitants. This leads to certain expectation/anticipation on my part about the future of the story. Given that the Kerbulans are not just in Kenlie's imagination, I would expect that they will have to have an effect on the story of our Kerbfleet crew members as it unfolds.

It may be that since Kenlie has such an active imagination as a writer, he is more attuned to the thoughts of his alternate/Kerbulan self and thus it is him seeing the images.
But, knowing that Kuzzter wants to tell us a story, I will make a prediction. Evil Kenlie is not really about to die. If the only information the Kerbulans have about Kerbfleet and vice versa is from the mysterious link between the Kenlies, then Kuzzter won't kill Kenlie Kermulan.

Happy landings!

[Mad Rocket Scientist]

[quote name='smjjames']If you're going to go the Star Trek sort of route, you should introduce the Kerlingons at some point. :) Just an idea.

Whether the more ruthless TOS Klingons or the more honorable TNG/DS9 Klingons is up to you.[/QUOTE]
To me, the name "Kerbulan" suggests honorable TOS romulans.
[quote name='Trios']So all of Duna Ore Bust and Eve: Order Zero is actually just fiction written by Kenlie Kermulan.

[URL]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AllJustADream[/URL]

[URL]http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OrWasItADream[/URL] ???[/QUOTE]
But wait! In kerbfleet, Kenlie is writing STKQ (I messed that up, didn't I?) fiction! And it's all written by Kuzzter, so in an alternate reality there's a Kuzzter writing about how awesome congressional budget cuts and paperwork are, using pictures from the video game [I]Human Space Program![/I]

*Tinfoil hat*

[quote name='Dman979']And those worked because he went [noparse][noparse][spoiler=Spoiler Title][/spoiler][/noparse][/noparse]. I did the same, but with an extra noparse.[/QUOTE]
Let's get some [noparse][quote] [/quote][/noparse] [quote name='Kenlie']BBCode involved, to increase the fun![/quote]

ETA:
Sounds like you have an evil overlord, don't forget to use this: [URL]http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html[/URL]

[problemecium]

*reads thread title*

Evil: Order Zero.

[SIZE=1]as in zero survivors of course[/SIZE]

[Noname117]

[quote name='parameciumkid']*reads thread title*

Evil: Order Zero.

[SIZE=1]as in zero survivors of course[/SIZE][/QUOTE]

But it can't be that. Since the universe is a mirror, it has to be the opposite. So it would be Evil: Order Infinity (as in an infinite amount of evil?).

[Mister Dilsby]

[quote name='Mad Rocket Scientist']Sounds like you have an evil overlord, don't forget to use this: [URL]http://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
Heh. I was actually thinking of that list the moment I put Evil Kenlie in a 'face concealing helmet'.

As to the other stuff, you'll have to watch my avatar carefully to see if it grows a goatee at some point.

[Starhawk]

The overarching story told in the postlude has become very ominous for Kerbfleet if you think about it. Bob Kermulan (Evil Bob) has just postponed Kenlie Kermulan's execution to ask him a question about his fiction.

IMO, Kerbfleet would be much better off if the execution had proceeded, as hard-hearted as that may sound. If Evil Kenlie dies, then nobody else in the S.P.Q.K. hears stories about Kerbfleet. But Bad Bob has just showed interest. If the Centurion begins to take it seriously, then so might the Leader.

If that happens, you have to ask yourself, what does that mean for Kerbfleet? Based on the glimpses of Kerbulan society that we've had, I think it could be very bad.

There aren't any transporters to malfunction in Kerbfleet (or in KSP) so what might Kuzzter have planned?

Somebody out there other than me [I]must[/I] think about this stuff.

Happy landings!

[Sanic]

[IMG]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/yPCkcKNUVoo/maxresdefault.jpg[/IMG]

[Starwhip]

[img]http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/2273452/wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey-o.gif[/img]
[I]"A big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff"[/I]

Intriguing plot direction... Obviously this isn't going to be over just so soon.

[SpaceplaneAddict]

[QUOTE]Now with 27% More EEEvil![/QUOTE]

I see what you did there.
[spoiler=Reference?][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/NTGlSUv.jpg[/IMG][/spoiler] Edited November 20, 2015 by SpaceplaneAddict

[Starhawk]

[quote name='Starhawk']And, of course, we've all been on the edge of our seats anticipating the first glimpse of facial hair. :)[/QUOTE]

I guess that wasn't our first glimpse after all.

Turns out that if you look closely, evil Gene has facial hair, too. It's just that Kuzzter has carefully hidden it behind the koffee cup.

Happy landings!

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[quote name='Starwhip']Intriguing plot direction... Obviously this isn't going to be over just so soon.[/QUOTE]

Absolutely! This is what I've been trying to say.

Happy landings!

[Mister Dilsby]

I see what you did there.

http://i.imgur.com/NTGlSUv.jpg

Hmm. I think pronouncing 'evil' that way predates Spongebob by a little bit... probably if you look at the original Hebrew scrolls of the book of Genesis there are some extra vowel marks in the front of the word

Turns out that if you look closely, evil Gene has facial hair, too. It's just that Kuzzter has carefully hidden it behind the koffee cup.

Korrect. No one else wondered why I would use the same shot of Evil Gene so many times? I'm not normally that lazy. Hmmm... what else have I showed you more than once?

Somebody out there other than me must think about this stuff.

I hope so, because it's a LOT of work. Seriously, if you're sitting back there and you've pieced it all together (or parts of it) and this sort of thing intrigues you, I need to hear about it. When the comments can't seen to tell the difference between the intentionally bad prose fiction Kenlie writes and my allegedly good comics... well, that tells me maybe I'm putting too much effort into the whole thing.

Anyway, I made these. The postlude is over. Next mission will begin in a new thread. Thank you for reading.

Evil Kenlie is not really about to die. If the only information the Kerbulans have about Kerbfleet and vice versa is from the mysterious link between the Kenlies, then Kuzzter won't kill Kenlie Kermulan.

Nailed it

Edited May 18, 2016 by Kuzzter

[Terwin]

[quote name='Kuzzter']I hope so, because it's a LOT of work. Seriously, if you're sitting back there and you've pieced it all together (or parts of it) and this sort of thing intrigues you, I need to hear about it. When the comments can't seen to tell the difference between the intentionally bad [I]prose [/I]fiction Kenlie writes and my allegedly good [I]comics[/I]... well, that tells me maybe I'm putting too much effort into the whole thing.[/QUOTE]

I think people were just spit-balling random conspiracy theories.

Also, as far as I can tell the Marty-Stu fan-fiction had nothing to do with the empire, so they have only been speculating about the mirror-universe comics as potentially being inspired story-telling by Kenlie, and as the evil Kenlie is also writing fiction about kerbfleet, that there might be an alternate Kuzzter who is writing about NASA...

Also, while the Marty-Stu stories were clearly poorly-disguised wish-fulfillment for Kenlie, that does not mean he could not write compelling stories with better subject matter. It was not Kenlie's writing that was bad, so much as his goals/subject matter. It is very difficult to write 'good' prose about a Mary-Sue in a wish-fulfillment fantasy after all...

[Starhawk]

Uh-oh. The Kerbulans have a technology that Kerbfleet does not possess (unless Wernher is keeping secrets).

That is certainly 'concerning'.

So, clearly, there are some huge differences between the Kerbulans and the Kerbals. The Kerbulans don't explore from what we know and it was stated that this new ship is a prototype.

I have a theory based on [URL="http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/128879-Eve-Order-Zero-a-KSP-Graphic-Novel-%28POSTLUDE-COMPLETE-bet-you-didn-t-see-THAT-coming-%29?p=2272049&viewfull=1#post2272049"]this post[/URL] and [URL="http://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/threads/128879-Eve-Order-Zero-a-KSP-Graphic-Novel-%28POSTLUDE-COMPLETE-bet-you-didn-t-see-THAT-coming-%29?p=2269596&viewfull=1#post2269596"]this post[/URL] about how Kuzzter might have Kerbfleet and the Kerbulans interact. I think the clues in those two posts point in an interesting direction for the story. Am I seeing things that aren't there? Does anybody else think that some of the dialogue in those two posts isn't somewhat unusual?

Happy landings!

ETA: Oh yeah. I loved the Num! :D Edited November 20, 2015 by Starhawk

[Sharkman Briton]

Well then... Kenlie the Sphee!

[Mister Dilsby]

[quote name='Terwin']Also, as far as I can tell the Marty-Stu fan-fiction had nothing to do with the empire, so they have only been speculating about the mirror-universe comics as potentially being inspired story-telling by Kenlie, and as the evil Kenlie is also writing fiction about kerbfleet, that there might be an alternate Kuzzter who is writing about NASA...[/QUOTE]

Right. We haven't actually seen any of Kenlie Kerman's stories about the Kerbulan Empire; we've only seen him talk about the images and the act of writing it down. It's possible no one else has seen them either--Kerbfleet doesn't have a secret police force that looks into peoples' personal files. It would be plausible to assume that anything Kenlie Kerman did write down about the Kerbulans would 'mirror' what Kenlie Kermulan wrote down about Kerbfleet: a fictional story containing elements of the other world that the author shouldn't possibly know about. No one really believes that a Kerbulan named Martistus blew up the [I]Dipperkraft[/I], right?

Come to think of it, Kenlie Kerman [I]does [/I]include something Kerbulan in a Martustu story that he shouldn't have known about... the bloaking device. Though I had not yet come up with this storyline when I wrote him writing that, it was just something ridiculous for funsies.