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[1.1.1] [FINAL UPDATE CactEye Telescopes Continued 7.1.0


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Strange contract text would seem to fit perfectly with the stock descriptions :P 

No, I'm sure it will be fine. Thanks for taking a look, this was one of my favorite mods in 0.25... Which is the version I apparently did the most ambitious builds in, according to my screenshots. Hopefully we can top that soon :D 

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6 hours ago, KaiserSoze said:

Good. I will have a look at the contract as they are in 1.05 with a clean install (except for the minimum mods) and try to get ig working. I think contract configurator still acepts the same cfgs in 1.1 version (with maybe more options). I'll let you know if I'm sucessful.

EDIT: I just had a quick look at contracts. It seems that I will be able to make it work and avoid those strange orbits and also add contract for all planets/moons even for RSS and OPM

 

However english is not my native language, so some texts could be...strange ;).

I'm willing to do some spellcheck/grammer check if you want.

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Ok. Contracts are fixed on my local copy.

I've tested them with stock and OPM and they seem to work fine. Still need to test them with RSS but I do not foresee any problem (when I said tested it means that I cheated so I get the contracts, but I think they should work fine in a proper game).

Since I'm not english speaker myself I'm leaving here the texts for all the possible contracts so they can be reviewed and fixed:

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Moon contracts:

They say that Minmus is too far away to look good in the pictures. Let's prove them wrong!

Kerbals have been looking at the sky for a long time. It's time to take the best pictures of "Mun/Moon". With them we can convince people to look further. Also, somehow we managed to trick some millionaire to paid us for those pictures. We need you to take pictures of "Mun/Moon" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology

(This is the first moon for the homeworld, however is called)

 

Inner planets + Gas giants:

We'd like to find out if "Moho/Mercury" is as hot as we've been told. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

We'd like to know if everything in "Eve" is as purple as it seems. We need you to take pictures of "Eve" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

We'd like to know if the surface of "Venus" can be seen under the clouds. Take pictures of "Venus" using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

We'd like to know if "Duna/Mars" has good places to land our rovers. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. There has been a bet about the size of the storms in "Jool/Jupiter" and we have a contract to act as judges. We need you to take pictures of "Jool/Jupiter" using an Telescope with CactEye technology so we can decide the winner.

Everybody loves the rings of "Saturn/Sarnus". Kerbal Time magazine has decided that they will look cool on their cover page. Take pictures of "Saturn/Sarnus" using CactEye technology so can show the world that there is more than just the rings.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(this last one is for mods that created new planets in the inner system or big gas giants)

 

Outer planets minus Gas giants:

We're not sure if there's actually anything worth seeing on "Dres"  Let's check it out anyway.  We need you to take pictures of "Dres" using CactEye technology.

Is "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto" too far away to get good pictures? Only one way to find out.  Take pictures of "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto " using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(If eelo is reconverted as a moon, like OPM does, it never uses eeloo for this contract)

Some people think that "Neptune/Neidon" could would be an interesting planet. Let's find if there is something that could make a visit worth our time (and funds).  Take pictures of "Neptune/Neidon" using a Telescope with CactEye technology to check it out.

There aren't many places colder than "Uranus/Urlum", we should take pictures of it. Take pictures of "Uranus/Urlum" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology, extra price if you find penguins.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(This last one if for planets that other mods may add that are far away and not gas giants)

Other planets moons (Kerbin/Earth moons excluded)

Many people think that "Main Planet" is interesting, but now we want to get more attention to "One moon of Main Planet". Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research of "One moon of Main Planet" . We need you to take pictures of "One moon of Main Planet"  using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(Yes, I got lay and stop writing/adapting description for each moon, I can add specific description for moon if someone writes them for me, and obviously the game changes the text I have left in red with the proper planet/moon name)

 

Yes, contracts are sequential. First you need to put do the one to put telescope in orbit, then for at least one moon, then do a few contract for inner planets, then for outer planets and finally receive contracts for any celestial body.

How do I do send the contracts, should I create a fork add them and then make a pull in github? As I said I'm only waiting to make some test with RSS (and someone to check my english), but it should be finished really soon

 

 

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51 minutes ago, KaiserSoze said:

Ok. Contracts are fixed on my local copy.

I've tested them with stock and OPM and they seem to work fine. Still need to test them with RSS but I do not foresee any problem (when I said tested it means that I cheated so I get the contracts, but I think they should work fine in a proper game).

Since I'm not english speaker myself I'm leaving here the texts for all the possible contracts so they can be reviewed and fixed:

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Moon contracts:

They say that Minmus is too far away to look good in the pictures. Let's prove them wrong!

Kerbals have been looking at the sky for a long time. It's time to take the best pictures of "Mun/Moon". With them we can convince people to look further. Also, somehow we managed to trick some millionaire to paid us for those pictures. We need you to take pictures of "Mun/Moon" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology

(This is the first moon for the homeworld, however is called)

 

Inner planets + Gas giants:

We'd like to find out if "Moho/Mercury" is as hot as we've been told. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

We'd like to know if everything in "Eve" is as purple as it seems. We need you to take pictures of "Eve" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

We'd like to know if the surface of "Venus" can be seen under the clouds. Take pictures of "Venus" using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

We'd like to know if "Duna/Mars" has good places to land our rovers. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. There has been a bet about the size of the storms in "Jool/Jupiter" and we have a contract to act as judges. We need you to take pictures of "Jool/Jupiter" using an Telescope with CactEye technology so we can decide the winner.

Everybody loves the rings of "Saturn/Sarnus". Kerbal Time magazine has decided that they will look cool on their cover page. Take pictures of "Saturn/Sarnus" using CactEye technology so can show the world that there is more than just the rings.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(this last one is for mods that created new planets in the inner system or big gas giants)

 

Outer planets minus Gas giants:

We're not sure if there's actually anything worth seeing on "Dres"  Let's check it out anyway.  We need you to take pictures of "Dres" using CactEye technology.

Is "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto" too far away to get good pictures? Only one way to find out.  Take pictures of "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto " using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(If eelo is reconverted as a moon, like OPM does, it never uses eeloo for this contract)

Some people think that "Neptune/Neidon" could would be an interesting planet. Let's find if there is something that could make a visit worth our time (and funds).  Take pictures of "Neptune/Neidon" using a Telescope with CactEye technology to check it out.

There aren't many places colder than "Uranus/Urlum", we should take pictures of it. Take pictures of "Uranus/Urlum" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology, extra price if you find penguins.

Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(This last one if for planets that other mods may add that are far away and not gas giants)

Other planets moons (Kerbin/Earth moons excluded)

Many people think that "Main Planet" is interesting, but now we want to get more attention to "One moon of Main Planet". Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research of "One moon of Main Planet" . We need you to take pictures of "One moon of Main Planet"  using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

(Yes, I got lay and stop writing/adapting description for each moon, I can add specific description for moon if someone writes them for me, and obviously the game changes the text I have left in red with the proper planet/moon name)

 

Yes, contracts are sequential. First you need to put do the one to put telescope in orbit, then for at least one moon, then do a few contract for inner planets, then for outer planets and finally receive contracts for any celestial body.

How do I do send the contracts, should I create a fork add them and then make a pull in github? As I said I'm only waiting to make some test with RSS (and someone to check my english), but it should be finished really soon

 

 

That is fantastic, thank you! :) Please create a pull request and I'll add your changes into the mod. Meanwhile, I'm almost done with Pathfinder's KSP 1.1 update. Once that's done I can focus on updating CactEye. :)

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Did some quick spell/grammer checking and a few edits as to remain true to the source material, here they are:

Moon contracts:
They say that Minmus is too far away to look good in the pictures. Let's prove them wrong!
Kerbals have been looking at the sky for a long time. It's time to take the best pictures of "Mun/Moon" we can. With them, we can convince people to look even further. Also, somehow we managed to trick some millionaire to pay us for those pictures. We need you to take pictures of "Mun/Moon" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technologies.
(This is the first moon for the homeworld, however is called)
 
Inner planets + Gas giants:
We'd like to find out if "Moho/Mercury" is as hot as we've been told. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.
We'd like to know if everything on "Eve" is as purple as it seems. We need you to take pictures of "Eve"using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.
We'd like to know if the surface of "Venus" can be seen under the clouds. Take pictures of "Venus" using CactEye technology so can know for sure.
We'd like to know if "Duna/Mars" has any good places to land our rovers. Take pictures using CactEye technology so can know for sure.
Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. There has been a bet about the size of the storms on "Jool/Jupiter", and we have a contract to act as judges. We need you to take pictures of "Jool/Jupiter" using an Telescope with CactEye technology so we can decide the winner.
Everybody loves the rings of "Saturn/Sarnus". Magazines have decided that they will look cool on their cover pages. Take pictures of "Saturn/Sarnus" using CactEye technology so can show the world that there is more than just the rings.
Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.
(this last one is for mods that created new planets in the inner system or big gas giants)
 
Outer planets minus Gas giants:
We're not sure if there's actually anything worth seeing on "Dres". Let's check it out anyway.  We need you to take pictures of "Dres" using CactEye technology to prove it's not as boring as people say.
Is "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto" too far away to get good pictures? Only one way to find out! Take pictures of "Eeloo/Plock/Pluto " using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.
(If eelo is reconverted as a moon, like OPM does, it never uses eeloo for this contract)
Some people think that "Neptune/Neidon" could be an interesting planet. Let's find if there is something that could make a visit worth our time (and funds).  Take pictures of "Neptune/Neidon" using a Telescope with CactEye technology to check it out.
There aren't many places colder than "Uranus/Urlum", we should take pictures of it. Take pictures of "Uranus/Urlum" using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.
Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research. We need you to take pictures of "Planet"using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.
(This last one if for planets that other mods may add that are far away and not gas giants)
Other planets moons (Kerbin/Earth moons excluded)
Many people think that "Main Planet"is interesting, but now we want to get more attention to "One moon of Main Planet". Pictures are sometimes worth a thousand words, or in other cases, a thousand funds. And pictures, is exactly what we need right now in order to support future, interplanetary missions and scientific research of "One moon of Main Planet" . We need you to take pictures of "One moon of Main Planet"  using an existing Telescope using CactEye technology.

 

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Contract done (work with 1.05 but once you update this for 1.1 it should also work in 1.1, since contract configurator cfg have not changed, UNLESS you change the name of part modules/experiments)

You have the pull request to merge. I have not tested in a proper game (too slow) so I cheated like hell to get the contracts for almost every stellar body. I do not foresee any problem with this, but I mention just in case. Tested with stock, OPM (with and without sigma binary) and with RSS. Contract are generated without any special issue (no longer the orbit required for the telescopy should be beyond the moon). It should work with any mod that created a solar system similar to them (Homeworld with moon not too far away from the sun)

Knows issues: mods that uses sigma binary may generate strange missions, since technically both bodies are moon (instead of one planet and one moon). This may result of a contract for the planet that is treated a s moon of the binary system. This is avoided in case of Plock-Karen and for Pluto-Charon, but since the exception has to be made manually it may produce strange contract for other planetary mods (the contract should work fine, it's just the name).

Also mods that changes Kerbin (homeworld) to be the moon of another giant could produce funny contracts or result in stopping the contract from being produced at all: Right  now first contract after putting telescope in orbit will always be to take pictures of one of the moons. So if there is no moon it will never generate more contracts. I do not see any workaround if a want the first contact to be for with local moons. And I DO want that. Many mods that create other system respect this, so I do not foresee many problems.

Finally one doubt. I was tempted to add contract to put the telescopy in orbit around other bodies, mainly the sun, but I didn't do it, so for launching the telescopy there is only one contract (near Kerbin/Earth)

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6 hours ago, KaiserSoze said:

Hi,

How is your progress with the update for 1.1?, Could you have a look at how much work is going to take?

I'm finishing up work on Pathfinder right now, and as soon as that is done I can turn my attention to the CactEye. I'm down to a couple of bugs. With luck that will happen later this week. I'm hoping it's just a simple recompile, but we'll see.

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Just a heads up that I'm updating the CactEye this week to KSP 1.1. But also, this will be the last update I do with it. I've decided that it's not worth trying to keep maintaining it, and getting pestered about how much effort is needed is something I'd expect from my boss, not the modding community. So somebody else can carry the torch going forward.

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6 minutes ago, Angel-125 said:

Just a heads up that I'm updating the CactEye this week to KSP 1.1. But also, this will be the last update I do with it. I've decided that it's not worth trying to keep maintaining it, and getting pestered about how much effort is needed is something I'd expect from my boss, not the modding community. So somebody else can carry the torch going forward.

This mod has gone through a couple of hands over the years. This community can be demanding, and it rarely thanks the people who volunteer their time to maintain abandoned mods. i know this isn't the mod you were passionate about, just the one that needed you; thank you for stepping up to carry it. 

i considered taking a crack at it back when raven picked it up, but he had both more time and more experience then i did. Maybe it's time to get the development environment again, now that x64 windows is stable on unity 5. 

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20 minutes ago, Angel-125 said:

Just a heads up that I'm updating the CactEye this week to KSP 1.1. But also, this will be the last update I do with it. I've decided that it's not worth trying to keep maintaining it, and getting pestered about how much effort is needed is something I'd expect from my boss, not the modding community. So somebody else can carry the torch going forward.

Would you be willing to clarify what you mean here? I don't see anyone I would classify as pestering for an update, but it could have been in PMs. I just am not sure what you mean. Or do you mean pestered about something else? Sad to here the community was involved on this decision, but I hope to understand what you mean a bit better. Thanks for your maintenance and for any future contributions.

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31 minutes ago, Angel-125 said:

Just a heads up that I'm updating the CactEye this week to KSP 1.1. But also, this will be the last update I do with it. I've decided that it's not worth trying to keep maintaining it, and getting pestered about how much effort is needed is something I'd expect from my boss, not the modding community. So somebody else can carry the torch going forward.

Angel-125,

I for one would like to thank you for the time that you put into all of your mods. I know how a Mod Community Users can Demanding however I also have a fair idea of the amount of work a mod takes.. do 5 is simple Amazing!

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I've also really enjoyed this mod -- thanks for all the work you have put into it.

I'd also be kind of interested in taking it on. I've never done any modding for KSP before (although I have some experience with Unity), but had been thinking of getting into it anyway. Maybe this is a good opportunity? The only downside is that I have zero modelling skills.

As well as maintenance and bug fixes, I think there's some room for development of the mod. There could be quite a lot more image processors (e.g. different wavelengths), plus some completely different telescope bodies. There have actually been loads of space telescopes launched over the years, so there's a lot of room for inspiration. Plus there'd be the contracts to go along with all that.

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On 4/24/2016 at 3:24 PM, Angel-125 said:

Just a heads up that I'm updating the CactEye this week to KSP 1.1. But also, this will be the last update I do with it. I've decided that it's not worth trying to keep maintaining it, and getting pestered about how much effort is needed is something I'd expect from my boss, not the modding community. So somebody else can carry the torch going forward.

Well, I'm sorry to hear that you feel pestered, although I too, would like to guilt trip explain to whoever bothered you that it isn't cool to pester. I am also willing to take over, but perhaps a community takeover is in order like with Remotetech...

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