swjr-swis Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 So now we have news outlets attributing Kerbal rockets to NASA, on an article about Orion. Scroll down to the picture comparing the scale of different rockets. Left lower corner: Nasa. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3432512/Orion-Capsule-someday-humans-Mars-ready-begin-structural-testing-ahead-2018-lunar-flight.html Saved for posterity on imgur, just in case they edit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pxi Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I'm not sure the Daily Mail has ever been considered a particularly reliable source of news. A quick google image search suggests the page below as the source (image #4), although the name of the image - "ksp rocket vs real rocket line up - general ksp discussion" would suggest the image originated on these forums. Searching the forums here hasn't thrown up anything as of yet however. http://galleryhip.com/nasa-sls-vs-saturn-v.html EDIT: Here it is. If I were WeirdCulture, I'd be wanting some royalties for the use of my image in a national newspaper. Edited February 5, 2016 by pxi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjr-swis Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 28 minutes ago, pxi said: I'm not sure the Daily Mail has ever been considered a particularly reliable source of news. True. Thanks for finding the forum source (although WeirdCulture then mentions he found it on the Internet somewhere). And not sure why I titled this Daily Mirror instead of Daily Mail. Not sure if it makes much of a difference either. Edited February 5, 2016 by swjr-swis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanitis Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, pxi said: (...) the name of the image - "ksp rocket vs real rocket line up - general ksp discussion" would suggest the image originated on these forums. At first I though someone at the Daily Mail has a good sense of humor. Now I suspect the author of the article pulled a random image while he didn't know that 'Kerbal' isn't the name of a particularly big NASA rocket. There is even a "©Nasa" watermark on the image. Edited February 5, 2016 by Evanitis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 "Heavy", "Super-Heavy"..."Kerbal" - sounds about right That last contraption doesn't look that much more weird, than some abominations posted on this forum. Or YT. Or those i've built Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Scotius said: "Heavy", "Super-Heavy"..."Kerbal" - sounds about right That last contraption doesn't look that much more weird, than some abominations posted on this forum. Or YT. Or those i've built Yes, however its look rocket like for someone who don't know about KSP or much about rockets. Some of my weirder stuff does not. And yes using google image search is dangerous, other newspapers has used images from battlefield as real images from war zones. Just saw the name of the kerbal rocket Edited February 5, 2016 by magnemoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streetwind Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 11 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Just saw the name of the kerbal rocket If there ever is another spacecraft/rocket naming contest, like ULA did for the Vulcan or Russia did for their Soyuz successor, we should totally get the entire KSP community to go and vote Untitled Space Craft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Quite weird how they make some space shuttle on top of some very kebal design and assign it to NASA XD Go Untitled Space Craft ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RizzoTheRat Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 That's hilarious. For the non Brits here, the Daily Mail isn't exactly known for the rigour of it's journalism, it's usually more in to complaining about immigrants and pages of random celebrities new boob job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swjr-swis Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 2 hours ago, pxi said: If I were WeirdCulture, I'd be wanting some royalties for the use of my image in a national newspaper. I tracked it to a reddit post. Someone proposed adding a Kerbal rocket to the NASA chart, and bsquicklehausen then posted exactly that. He/she doesn't actually claim it, but so far the oldest reference to it I can find: https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/2auz87/an_interesting_size_comparison_real_life_nasa_sls/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarecrow Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) I'm thinking there must be a fan of Kerbal Space Program working for the Daily Mail. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3432512/Orion-Capsule-someday-humans-Mars-ready-begin-structural-testing-ahead-2018-lunar-flight.html Scroll down to the size comparison chart and check what comes after Super Heavy. Made me laugh anyway. Edited February 5, 2016 by Scarecrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lajoswinkler Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 It's Daily Mail - yellow journalism. Copy pasting, not investigating, mass producing articles without proper checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FullMetalMachinist Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 However humorous that may be, somehow I doubt that the author/editor realized that the chart had a video game joke in there. They probably just did a quick image search for something like that, and that's what they picked without looking too close. Although it is pretty amusing how easily KSP fits in with real world examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norpo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 (edited) The image for those who don't want to go to the site and find it: (see: on the right, the scale goes Small, Medium, Heavy, Super Heavy, then Kerbal (with Untitled Space Craft looking very Kerbal indeed) EDIT: 11 minutes ago, FullMetalMachinist said: However humorous that may be, somehow I doubt that the author/editor realized that the chart had a video game joke in there. They probably just did a quick image search for something like that, and that's what they picked without looking too close. Although it is pretty amusing how easily KSP fits in with real world examples. After doing some reverse google bing image searches; the source of the image seems like it's from this reddit comment (this imgur link) from ~ 1 year ago. So it seems like it being in the article was a mistake, but a good mistake. Edited February 5, 2016 by Norpo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Not to be that guy, but do we really need two different posts in two different forums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KerBlammo Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 This sums up the Daily Mail's journalistic standards perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sal_vager Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 We have one of these so I'll keep things tidy and merge them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 5 hours ago, swjr-swis said: So now we have news outlets attributing Kerbal rockets to NASA, on an article about Orion. Scroll down to the picture comparing the scale of different rockets. Left lower corner: Nasa. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3432512/Orion-Capsule-someday-humans-Mars-ready-begin-structural-testing-ahead-2018-lunar-flight.html Saved for posterity on imgur, just in case they edit it. HIlarious. Although to be fair, that shuttle is a bit bigger than stock parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 does that rocket have an orion and a shuttle? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceception Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Just now, insert_name said: does that rocket have an orion and a shuttle? lol Yes, it also has Falcon 9 core boosters strapped to the sides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, Spaceception said: Yes, it also has Falcon 9 core boosters strapped to the sides You are right, I thought it was 6 SRB 32 minutes ago, insert_name said: does that rocket have an orion and a shuttle? lol Worse, to me it looks like an Apollo with the moon landing module. This on top of an SLS block 2 who has an shuttle on the second stage, with two SLS block 1 as booster, 4 falcon 9, as booster and two SLS SRB. Someone must try to launch this. One problem is that SLS block 1 and falcon 9 is staged rockets and can not be uses as boosters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frybert Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 16 minutes ago, magnemoe said: Someone must try to launch this. Welp, I think there went the rest of my afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kunok Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 14 minutes ago, magnemoe said: One problem is that SLS block 1 and falcon 9 is staged rockets and can not be uses as boosters. You can always link only the upper stage of both, but I think the burn times aren't compatible and the block 1 upper stages clearly aren't linked Well if one normal launch launch can launch cubesats as extra cargo, maybe they are for launching extra geostationary satellites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HebaruSan Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 27 minutes ago, magnemoe said: You are right, I thought it was 6 SRB Worse, to me it looks like an Apollo with the moon landing module. This on top of an SLS block 2 who has an shuttle on the second stage, with two SLS block 1 as booster, 4 falcon 9, as booster and two SLS SRB. Someone must try to launch this. One problem is that SLS block 1 and falcon 9 is staged rockets and can not be uses as boosters. Of course, the question we're all asking is: how much delta-V would it have IRL? Each manned module probably needs its own separate estimate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 I just realized the falcon 9's have dragon capsules as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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