Wingman703 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) Targeted 12:30 press conference, perhaps some good data then? Also, that's no 'shadow'. It starts above the Falcon engines. Dragon got out of there somehow, weather it deployed chutes to 'survive' is the question. Whatever was in the trunk is certainly just so much trash now, however. Edited June 28, 2015 by Wingman703 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korizan Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I do have to wonder about the odds.First Russia loses their resupply then the very next run Space X has a failure.I am not one for conspiracy / sabotage but like I said what are the odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EladDv Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If it was intentional abortion it could be the second stage engine but the rapid unplanned disassembly of the first stage makes me think it wasn't intentional... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivman Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I do have to wonder about the odds.First loses there resupply then the very next run Space X has a failure.I am not one for conspiracy but like I said what are the odds.Well the Russians do want to leave the ISS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp1989 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If Dragon survived they won't lose as much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdwulfe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Woof. Heartbreaking, in any case. I never like seeing a launch go like this. Hope we can learn as much as possible from it. My thoughts go to the engineers, designers, and workmen that design and create these wonders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon144 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Elon Musk is having a hard time getting used to the new aerodynamics patch too.This is why NASA should have kept some sort of orbit capable spacecraft for emergencies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAINCRAFTER Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Today's Falcon 9 launch blew up 2 minutes and 19 seconds into the flight.Aww, it didn't even get to the barge! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whirligig Girl Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Reviewing footage with my "armchair flight director" hat on, It looks like something went bad on the second stage. First stage engines were burning, then white cloud, then what LOOKS like Dragon 'aborting'(AKA, falling off? Deff a Dragon-looking piece of debris). Continued burn of first stage, then an 'explosion'.That was my Layman's conclusion as well. Perhaps the second stage tried to ignite too early?- - - Updated - - -Targeted 12:30 press conference, perhaps some good data then? Also, that's no 'shadow'. It starts above the Falcon engines. Dragon got out of there somehow, weather it deployed chutes to 'survive' is the question. Whatever was in the trunk is certainly just so much trash now, however.I think, first time around, while I was watching the stream, I saw what seemed to be a parachute deploying on a small white dot. It may just be my imagination though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motokid600 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 @Subzerpspartan7 I was saying all around not just with falcon 9. Also didn't falcon 9 crash on the sea landing thing?Yes, but it successfully put its payload into orbit so you count that as a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 It looks like a tankage failure for sure. You can see how the engines keep firing. Also, it happened at the top of the vehicle, but the LOX tank is above IIRC, so it could still be the first stage blowing it's top off, or the second stage having a critical failure... maybe during engine chill and tank pressurization prior to the staging event?Rune. Note: take everything with a mountain of salt, this is armchair engineering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
katateochi Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I was half expecting some kind of warning when the rocket blew up, like some kind of danger escalation. But nope. It just flatly blow up without a warning, too fast to even utter a swear word, then it is gone. I guess hollywood does left me with some unrealistic expectation about those situations.It was the eerie silence of the broadcast after it happened that got me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clivman Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 That was my Layman's conclusion as well. Perhaps the second stage tried to ignite too early?Wouldn't we have seen a second of fire before the smoke then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartoffelkuchen Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 So, my theory:It looks like the 2nd stage ignited too early, and then "melted" the the first stage, which then let the remaining fuel out and exploded shortly after. Though it was a small explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space.exe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Later today at 12:30 ET there will be a contingency news conference you can watch here at https://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html- - - Updated - - -Yes, but it successfully put its payload into orbit so you count that as a success.It still crashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Wouldn't we have seen a second of fire before the smoke then?Yup, if it was the second stage then it was the tank blowing up for sure... no flames! Looked like LOX too, the way it expanded.Rune. Pressure can create nice explosions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purpleivan Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Lunching explosion Anyway is it possible it's range safety system again ?So... a snacks related incident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoetoJoe Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Any lists on the contents onboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjolcz Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Looks like there were two explosions, but not really sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuBisCO Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well there goes the idea of cheap space travel, it's over. ULA wins, SLS wins, humanity will remain trapped on this rock until civilization collapses or technological singularity, and then the only things leaving the planet won't be humans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodion_herrera Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totalitor Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 If the capsule survived what happen when it hits a water? Totally destruction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdad84 Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Well there goes the idea of cheap space travel, it's over. ULA wins, SLS wins, humanity will remain trapped on this rock until civilization collapses or technological singularity, and then the only things leaving the planet won't be humans.With that mindset we will. SpaceX will recover. And continue to do great things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I have to admit with the others anyway - certainly not about Merlins, they kept firing. Maybe decouplers, maybe bad glitch then early timing and then RUD. I'm pretty sure the force that destroy them must be from range safety and not the failure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frida Space Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I blame it on all the changes and upgrades they keep making after every single launch. Most of them are good, but you can't expect all of them to work fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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