RoverDude Posted December 21, 2020 Author Share Posted December 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Danilo Coelho said: is this real life or is this just fanta sea? haha Oh yeah... that's real life. ATLAS modules and WOLF are included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiiLucy Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 He isn't the man we deserved, but the man we needed most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Power Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 My KSP 1.11 complains, that MKS 1.4.0 pack has INCOMPATIBLE version of GroundConstruction inside. Is it supposed to be like that? MKS 1.3.0 did not had GroundConstruction at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Nik Power said: My KSP 1.11 complains, that MKS 1.4.0 pack has INCOMPATIBLE version of GroundConstruction inside. Is it supposed to be like that? MKS 1.3.0 did not had GroundConstruction at all. Feel free to ignore that for now. No PR for it yet, still works fine in 1.11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KawaiiLucy Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Nik Power said: My KSP 1.11 complains, that MKS 1.4.0 pack has INCOMPATIBLE version of GroundConstruction inside. Is it supposed to be like that? MKS 1.3.0 did not had GroundConstruction at all. No issues on my side if you include the GC folder in the release. 2 hours ago, RoverDude said: ATLAS modules and WOLF are included. Are the tundra parts currently placeholders for future modules? I really do love the new part artworks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, Danilo Coelho said: is this real life or is this just fanta sea? haha caught in a landslide- no escape from reality. Spoiler Open you eyes, look up to the sky and seeeeeeeeeee.... I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy. 'cause I'm easy come, easy go, little high, little low. Anyway the wind blows, doesn't really matter to me. Congrats to @RoverDudeand the USI dev team. Screenies incoming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, KawaiiLucy said: No issues on my side if you include the GC folder in the release. Are the tundra parts currently placeholders for future modules? I really do love the new part artworks! For WOLF? For now. Bear in mind that WOLF infrastructure does not persist, so the visuals are pretty short lived. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ksp Slingshooter Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 What happenned to the UKS mobile launchpad and shipyard? I unlocked them in R&D but they don't appear in the editor and it says they were built by USI *legacy* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrutalRIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ksp Slingshooter said: What happenned to the UKS mobile launchpad and shipyard? I unlocked them in R&D but they don't appear in the editor and it says they were built by USI *legacy* No longer supported they are only kept around so as to not brake saves i believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Power Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, RoverDude said: Feel free to ignore that for now. No PR for it yet, still works fine in 1.11 Can't ignore it - it freezes the game loading at final stage. Downgrading all USI to 1.3.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ksp Slingshooter Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Another question: If I want to build offworld vessels using the resources available, do I need to download Extraplanetary Launchpads or does USI MKS already support that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBenz Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ksp Slingshooter said: Another question: If I want to build offworld vessels using the resources available, do I need to download Extraplanetary Launchpads or does USI MKS already support that? MKS comes bundled with Global Construction (ground construction) which allows on site construction of vessels. Edit: Also, now that WOLF is live, can we get an easier to find description of how it works and what it does? I know there is one floating around somewhere, I've read it before, but I can't for the life of me track it down again. Edited December 22, 2020 by TBenz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Power Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 MKS has GroundConstruction ver 2.6.3 inside, the newest version of GroundConstruction is 2.6.4 Updating the GroundConstruction helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesonKerbal Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 hours ago, RoverDude said: Do 'Perform Maintenance' with an EVA engineer on the part you want to refuel. Have the refueling storage nearby (does not need to be attached). Just tested it in 1.11 and it works fine with the current MKS build. Confirming updating to the current MKS you just released gives me the "perform maintenance" action button. Kerbals throughout the system can have lights and running water again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, Nik Power said: Can't ignore it - it freezes the game loading at final stage. Downgrading all USI to 1.3.0 Odd - mine does not freeze at all and I am using the same stuff we released. I'll yank it for now. 55 minutes ago, Ksp Slingshooter said: Another question: If I want to build offworld vessels using the resources available, do I need to download Extraplanetary Launchpads or does USI MKS already support that? GC is supported, EL is not but it won't conflict. There will eventually be a third option Also - handy doc for understanding what WOLF does and getting past the initial learning curve: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zft2Ka9gubOYQf4CQgvReTxpnP8_LQYNyHouEjQZqjw/edit?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamp-o-Tron Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 The ICHV "Roche" on its initial Kerbin departure burn, headed to Valentine in only 40 years. Obviously the life support systems have not been figured out, but it can spare several hundred tons of payload, carrying only about 20 tons of propellant. Centrifuges, cupola, and crew tubes from SSPEX, domes from MKS, truss from NF Construction, and engine from Far Future Technologies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 (and here's a cheat sheet of all of the WOLFy conversions! Read the doc first, it's not that scary once you understand how WOLF works. Ok... 1.4.1 is now out - GC removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danilo Coelho Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Clamp-o-Tron said: The ICHV "Roche" on its initial Kerbin departure burn, headed to Valentine in only 40 years. Obviously the life support systems have not been figured out, but it can spare several hundred tons of payload, carrying only about 20 tons of propellant. Centrifuges, cupola, and crew tubes from SSPEX, domes from MKS, truss from NF Construction, and engine from Far Future Technologies. SSPEX Stands for what? I can't remember this mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrutalRIP Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, Danilo Coelho said: SSPEX Stands for what? I can't remember this mod Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbals_of_Steel Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 A few thoughts: Seems backwards compatible with 1.10, I made a full backup of the KSP folder and tried, no glaring issues. It didn't break my old 1.10 save, either, which was a pleasant surprise. The drill changes broke the economy of the colony, but most of that I can fix with an engineer and a rover full of specialized parts. No sudden krakening or missing ships, VERY happy with that. Automated maintenance system is working MUCH better now, it used to hang up after one or two modules, now it goes through the entire base, major improvement in my book. HOLY COW the Atlas parts are huge... I'd half convinced myself that, due to the textures and sheer size they would be inflatable parts that could be delivered on a "normal" rocket. Nope. The shortcut recipes to make mat kits and specialized parts directly from the raw materials are a huge help. WOLF seems like a cool idea, but probably a bridge further than I need at the moment. I REALLY wish there was a "Mass Transit" way to move Kerbals around, because populating one of those domes will take forEVER... Now a few questions on the new domes: Are they supposed to sink into the surface a bit like the Ranger parts do? That tiny nub of a base has proven to be quite unstable, and sitting on landing gear puts all the entrances several Kerbal heights in the air. Messing around with them in the editor, they look really good with only the first bit of the black ring above the surface, but I can't figure out how to do that out in the world... Have there been any thoughts about maybe adding some reactors and containers that match the profile of the "Cargo Bay" entrance? I'm trying to work out how to integrate all of that into a good looking mega-base, but having some of those parts just randomly sticking out messes with me Overall, 10/10, would download again KoS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 @Kerbals_of_Steel - Atlas parts should have had a cradle - if not, something easy to sort with an optional mesh. And yeah there will be additional ATLAS parts. You already have harvesters that fit on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbals_of_Steel Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, RoverDude said: @Kerbals_of_Steel - Atlas parts should have had a cradle - if not, something easy to sort with an optional mesh. And yeah there will be additional ATLAS parts. You already have harvesters that fit on them OK. I'll check for the cradle again, but I think the convertible mesh would be a cleaner solution, have the existing version for use on colony ships and a flat bottomed variant for surface construction. The harvesters look AWESOME, and were in fact the prompt for "I wish there was a 3.75m equivalent reactor that looks like this" Truly great work, thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
priles Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Ok, So am I understanding this properly? With the new Wolf system if I take ranger parts to build a base, I would just land the ship and click on something and the whole ship just winks out of existence? Kerbals and all? Or do the structures still exists? I'm mildly confused as to what sticks around and what doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, priles said: Ok, So am I understanding this properly? With the new Wolf system if I take ranger parts to build a base, I would just land the ship and click on something and the whole ship just winks out of existence? Kerbals and all? Or do the structures still exists? I'm mildly confused as to what sticks around and what doesn't. WOLF Parts are a different set. So your MKS based do not change. But at a certain point, some of the plumbing and resource chains you will probably want to use WOLF for. They are like peanut butter and jelly. For example, say you want a refueling station. It will probably be an MKS base hooked up to a WOLF hopper, with WOLF handling all of the resource gathering and processing, then dropping the results off into your MKS base. So now you have one base vs. several. Or, maybe you do a WOLF setup for your supply generation, pulling in stuff from a few biomes - but have a life support hopper into your outpost to feed your Kerbals. btw - will do another quick guide on working with transport credits and multiple biomes next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoverDude Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Info on Transport Credits and Routes - the glue that lets you set up supply lines and interplanetary transport hubs! https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEqW60RrnYiVJKpAIFHAUqhdBrzbwwQ7KsaJ8hZjH4w/edit?usp=sharing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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