Chippy the Space Dog Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 hours ago, jstnj said: @Phineas Freak downloaded the latest from the dev branch this afternoon just to be sure--I'm still getting the 2 errors related to that config file. Like I said...I suspect it might be a parts pack? Could be wrong though. Is there any way to get a more verbose error message to see what is actually failing when trying to utilize the " RO_RCS_Config.cfg" file? Just for info, I did get everything to load ok in my build. I do get 4 errors reported with that file, but doesn't stop game from loading. The spreadsheet pointed to the master build of Test Flight instead of the dev build. Once I replaced that the only crash point for me was with the EngineVariant_Config file loaded a FASA part (LFE_Gemini_Transtage_Twin) caused the game to freeze on loading. Removing that part allows my game to load okay. One issues I'm having though is the stock variants of RO engines, for example the stock aerobee engine, isn't loading. Several others seem to be missing too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildDoktor Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Chippy the Space Dog said: The spreadsheet pointed to the master build of Test Flight instead of the dev build. Thanks @Chippy the Space Dog; I had the master build of Test Flight installed, but as soon as I removed it KSP-RO started right up! I'm working on my first rocket now in sandbox, so I've yet to see if I run across the same type of error as you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy the Space Dog Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 @WildDoktor Sounds like you're at the same point as I am then. Happy flying! In career mode the stock aerobee seems to be more powerful than FASA's (judging by Nathankell's Rusty RP1 series on youtube) some I'm missing the early punch to the Karman line, but things all seem to be working except the stock versions of the rockets. But RSS/RO is just so darn fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy the Space Dog Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Well, I did a complete reinstall and everything is working. Even no errors reported on the loading screen, and stock engines are showing now. I think my error was with Real Fuels. Didn't notice that CKAN installed a version by itself. I kept that version but overwrote it with the one from the modular fuel tanks link (as directed I didn't install MFT itself). Anyway, whatever the issue was, everything is fine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornholio Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 17 hours ago, jstnj said: @Phineas Freak downloaded the latest from the dev branch this afternoon just to be sure--I'm still getting the 2 errors related to that config file. Like I said...I suspect it might be a parts pack? Could be wrong though. Is there any way to get a more verbose error message to see what is actually failing when trying to utilize the " RO_RCS_Config.cfg" file? I'll drop a few links to things i have customized/stolen to fix things RCS Errors, trying to figure out what fixed this maybe the older RO_RCS had Need:/For: module manager problems that used to be ignored. Make sure you are using latest MM https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5roxowbohroby/RO_RCS_Config.cfg?dl=0 from GameData\RealismOverhaul\RO_SuggestedMods (this should be the same as current Dev branch) Remotetech Contract Fix if you get broken CC Contracts that require earth coverage. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1qcko5e8a8wq0ds/CC_RemoteTech.dll?dl=0 SCANSat Missions rounding negative initial scan coverage so never firing https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5vricx1ydhk8zu/Scansat Missions Patch.zip?dl=0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy the Space Dog Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Bornholio said: RCS Errors, trying to figure out what fixed this maybe the older RO_RCS had Need:/For: module manager problems that used to be ignored. Make sure you are using latest MM Just ran another test. When you follow the spreadsheet instructions and install Real Plume from CKAN, it installs a very old version of Real Fuels as a dependency with a default additional folder called Real Fuels - Stockalike. Deleting that folder (as well as overwriting the Real Fuels folder with the manual download one, seems to get rid of the RCS config errors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cognitive_demi Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chippy the Space Dog said: Just ran another test. When you follow the spreadsheet instructions and install Real Plume from CKAN, it installs a very old version of Real Fuels as a dependency with a default additional folder called Real Fuels - Stockalike. Deleting that folder (as well as overwriting the Real Fuels folder with the manual download one, seems to get rid of the RCS config errors. Please, could you share your GameData folder with the all working addons? I've spent 2 days to make RO/RSS work but still have the same problems you also had - "4 errors related to GameData/RealismOverhaul/RO_SuggestedMods/RO_RCS_Config.cfg" and freezing on "FASA/Gemini2/FASA_Gemini_Centaur/LFE_Gemini_Transtage_Twin/FASAGeminiLFECentarTwin" Also Real Fuels works only from CKAN install. When I follow the instructions from the Bornholio's post the RF doesn't work at all. Edited March 4, 2018 by Cognitive_demi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippy the Space Dog Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Cognitive_demi said: Please, could you share your GameData folder with the all working addons? Here you go. I had those errors too at first. I installed Real Fuels by letting CKAN do it, then deleting the stockalike configs folder, then pasting the Real Fuels folder contents over the top of the one CKAN installed. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini4 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I'm sorry if this issue has been raised before (I haven't seen it mentioned on the last few pages, so I don't think it has). I recently downloaded the dev RO/RP-1 mod suite. After a fair amount of early troubleshooting (Thanks @Bornholio and @JohnMcLane for your help), the mods seem to be stable and working as designed. However, after unlocking the RD-108, I found that it didn't have any alternative configurations. Indeed, right-clicking on it in the VAB didn't even reveal the "Engines GUI" menu that almost every other engine has. The configs are listed in the R&D center, but they don't show up in the engine description menu, and can't be chosen because the Engines GUI button doesn't appear. Here's my output log. Mod list below: Spoiler RSS Master and 4092 Textures RO Master and required mods RP-1 Master and required mods (All mods below are either github master or latest release unless otherwise specified) [X] Science (with stutter fix .dll) Filter Extensions Toolbar B9 Procedural Wings ATK Propulsion Pack B9 Part Switch Background Resources Custom Decals Community Category Kit Community Real Agency Pack Connected Living Space Field Research Cryogenic Engines & Tanks DMagic Orbital Science Dynamic Battery Storage FASA FRE (Latest release. Master is currently broken) Freedom Textures Hangar Extender KCT (With fix .dll), and Magicore Kerbal Renamer Kopernicus (1.3.1 v. 3. Oceans absent on later releases) KRASH KSC Switcher KSP Addon Version Checker KW Rocketry Mainsailor's Complete Procedural Parts Textures Mechjeb2 MemGraph Niche Parts Persistent Rotation Principia Procedural Fairings (For Everything) Procedural Parts Remote Tech Retractable Lifting Surface RSS Date Time Formatter Ship Manifest Soviet Engines SXT Taerobee Test Flight (dev branch master) TAC Life Support Ven Stock Revamp Wild Blue Tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theysen Posted March 5, 2018 Author Share Posted March 5, 2018 5 hours ago, gemini4 said: I'm sorry if this issue has been raised before (I haven't seen it mentioned on the last few pages, so I don't think it has). I recently downloaded the dev RO/RP-1 mod suite. After a fair amount of early troubleshooting (Thanks @Bornholio and @JohnMcLane for your help), the mods seem to be stable and working as designed. However, after unlocking the RD-108, I found that it didn't have any alternative configurations. Indeed, right-clicking on it in the VAB didn't even reveal the "Engines GUI" menu that almost every other engine has. The configs are listed in the R&D center, but they don't show up in the engine description menu, and can't be chosen because the Engines GUI button doesn't appear. Here's my output log. Mod list below: Hide contents RSS Master and 4092 Textures RO Master and required mods RP-1 Master and required mods (All mods below are either github master or latest release unless otherwise specified) [X] Science (with stutter fix .dll) Filter Extensions Toolbar B9 Procedural Wings ATK Propulsion Pack B9 Part Switch Background Resources Custom Decals Community Category Kit Community Real Agency Pack Connected Living Space Field Research Cryogenic Engines & Tanks DMagic Orbital Science Dynamic Battery Storage FASA FRE (Latest release. Master is currently broken) Freedom Textures Hangar Extender KCT (With fix .dll), and Magicore Kerbal Renamer Kopernicus (1.3.1 v. 3. Oceans absent on later releases) KRASH KSC Switcher KSP Addon Version Checker KW Rocketry Mainsailor's Complete Procedural Parts Textures Mechjeb2 MemGraph Niche Parts Persistent Rotation Principia Procedural Fairings (For Everything) Procedural Parts Remote Tech Retractable Lifting Surface RSS Date Time Formatter Ship Manifest Soviet Engines SXT Taerobee Test Flight (dev branch master) TAC Life Support Ven Stock Revamp Wild Blue Tools Already fixed in this: https://github.com/KSP-RO/RealismOverhaul/pull/1809 and it is actually in the "dev" branch of RO. So make sure to redownload the branch and replace it with your current RealismOverhaul in your GameData. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bornholio Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 10:23 AM, Cognitive_demi said: Please, could you share your GameData folder with the all working addons? I've spent 2 days to make RO/RSS work but still have the same problems you also had - "4 errors related to GameData/RealismOverhaul/RO_SuggestedMods/RO_RCS_Config.cfg" and freezing on "FASA/Gemini2/FASA_Gemini_Centaur/LFE_Gemini_Transtage_Twin/FASAGeminiLFECentarTwin" Also Real Fuels works only from CKAN install. When I follow the instructions from the Bornholio's post the RF doesn't work at all. Post your last output_Log.txt from the KSP_x64_Data Folder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstnj Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 On 3/4/2018 at 9:54 AM, Bornholio said: I'll drop a few links to things i have customized/stolen to fix things RCS Errors, trying to figure out what fixed this maybe the older RO_RCS had Need:/For: module manager problems that used to be ignored. Make sure you are using latest MM https://www.dropbox.com/s/7v5roxowbohroby/RO_RCS_Config.cfg?dl=0 from GameData\RealismOverhaul\RO_SuggestedMods (this should be the same as current Dev branch) Remotetech Contract Fix if you get broken CC Contracts that require earth coverage. https://www.dropbox.com/s/1qcko5e8a8wq0ds/CC_RemoteTech.dll?dl=0 SCANSat Missions rounding negative initial scan coverage so never firing https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5vricx1ydhk8zu/Scansat Missions Patch.zip?dl=0 Hey @Bornholio thanks for the tips. Unfortunately all these fixes (including someones suggestion to delete unneeded RealPlume configs) didn't cause the errors to go away. I guess this is kind of a minor issue, the only reason I care about it is because MM wont cache my startup if there are errors...really annoying. I'm still open to any more tips, and I am willing to do some extra troubleshooting if someone can help me figure out how to get more useful logs to figure out what the RCS configs are erroring out on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini4 Posted March 6, 2018 Share Posted March 6, 2018 Sorry to bother you again, @Theysen. I followed your advice and re-downloaded the RO and RP-0 masters. I didn't change any of my other mods. Now, on attempting to load, I get 15 MM errors, and my game crashes after module manager finishes loading. I wasn't having this problem before, so should I just use the earlier RO file I had downloaded and copy the RD-108 fixes from the new file? Output log here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneix_007 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Ok, so 1.4 was just relesed and Making History is just around the corner and I was wondering if there will be RO/RP-0 for 1.3, or it will go directly to 1.4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafidge9898 Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Recently started playing RO again. Haven't played for maybe a year. I've run into a problem with reentry - I can't. My heat shield always blows up, even if it still has ablator left (which, a lot of times, gets burned up quickly). Is it supposed to be this difficult? Some background info: I am using the heatshields acquired relatively early in a career game; NOT the lunar rated heat shields. I am, however, only returning from a low earth orbit. I have tried both steep and shallow descent profiles. I've also made my spacecraft as lightweight as practical. Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavgrei 14 :D Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Hello!!. I have a problem. I installed the RSS and the RO with the CKAN, also installed with them some mods that I think are needed for the RO and the RSS to work, my problem is that one or several of those mods that were installed there is one that makes the engines take on the ignition reaching a point where they accelerate to full power after a while and the Mechjeb fails to control the thrust of the engines. Which of all the mods is the one that causes that effect? Or it will be a kind of plugin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyDeltaJets Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I finally got RO up and running, but I keep getting a No Connection error with my rockets. I copied the RemoteTech_Settings.cfg file to my RemoteTech GameData folder, but nothing seems to work. I'm assuming I should see the red dots for ground stations in map mode, correct? I don't see any of those. Any help is greatly appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Rocket Scientist Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Is there a way to use Realism Overhaul for realistic solar panels, electricity consumption, and so on, but without rescaling parts like command pods to human-size, and using the Stockalike RF engine configs? I'm working on an install with roughly 10x upscaled planets, and I want all the physics and part performance to be as realistic as possible, but keeping the multiples-of-1.25m scale factor, as appropriate for meter-tall Kerbals. I know the answer is probably somewhere in the configs, but I wanted to confirm that deleting the Engine_Configs folder that comes with RO and replacing it with something else won't break everything, and I can't find which config has the changes to parts like command pods and reaction wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafidge9898 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 3/9/2018 at 9:04 PM, Cavgrei 14 said: Hello!!. I have a problem. I installed the RSS and the RO with the CKAN, also installed with them some mods that I think are needed for the RO and the RSS to work, my problem is that one or several of those mods that were installed there is one that makes the engines take on the ignition reaching a point where they accelerate to full power after a while and the Mechjeb fails to control the thrust of the engines. Which of all the mods is the one that causes that effect? Or it will be a kind of plugin Do you mean the engines can't be throttleable at all? Part of RO simulates the fact that most liquid fueled engines are not throttleable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoneix_007 Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 On 10.03.2018 at 6:04 AM, Cavgrei 14 said: Hello!!. I have a problem. I installed the RSS and the RO with the CKAN, also installed with them some mods that I think are needed for the RO and the RSS to work, my problem is that one or several of those mods that were installed there is one that makes the engines take on the ignition reaching a point where they accelerate to full power after a while and the Mechjeb fails to control the thrust of the engines. Which of all the mods is the one that causes that effect? Or it will be a kind of plugin Engines IRL także time to go to full thrust. It's kind of core-ish part of RO. Moreover, many of them can't be throttled. I'd advise using SMART A.S.S instead of Automated Ascent, as that might be the cause of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticquin Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Hi Everyone, I'm trying to debug wrong engine configurations and need your help, maybe someone can point towards a direction. As background info, I installed RSS, RO and RP-1 as described on reddit following this spreadsheed https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1A7gQkIiQKi0VtRecE6p86KCKuoawZPdzk7NlaxssRJ4/edit#gid=417044107. Most of it was clear and I'm only having a few errors related to FAR, which I think are not related to this issue here at hand. After playing the first few missions, I'm now mission 20 unlocking late 1960's technology, I encountered engines that were not correctly configured. I'm picking the F1 engine as example. In the engine preview the configurations show properly with 7740.5 kn thrust (ASL). However, when checking the engine configuration "Configure F1- Series" there are two engines popping up (instead of one) and both having only 1800.0 kn thrust (ASL). I documented the issue with screenshots, see imgur album https://imgur.com/a/B6wn3. Which mod, file is corrupt here and needs to be fixed? Has someone else encountered similar issues? Best regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosun Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 What would I need to change in the files of this mod to make it so that the models did not re-scale? Keep all the statistical changes, but just leave the rendered models the right size so they are compatible with parts that are not included in the re-scale. Also - I'd like to keep the pods scaled to Kerbals, it looks funny. Sue me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phineas Freak Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 @Ticquin Make sure that you don't have both RO and RF Stockalike installed at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ticquin Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 @Phineas Freak Thank you very much! That finally solved the problem, it was too easy after browsing through config files myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisl Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 This isn't really specific to RO but maybe someone here knows. Is there any way to have a single space station with multiple science labs all working together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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