sh1pman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 SIXTY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Whoa! There appears to be 30 white lines, so I guess each one is a rectangle and there are two stacks of 30? Either way, that seems like a really weird form factor for a satellite! And IIRC these don't have the sat to sat comms hardware, just sat to ground. I wonder if the final satellites will be larger, and if they will be able to fit the same amount in the fairing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Volume limited. Volume limited indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Steve Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Elon says that they are flat packed, that there is no dispenser. It looks like they dispense from each other. Hopefully it's designed so that if one separator fails, the others can still deploy. The analysts over at r/SpaceX have estimated the payload mass at 15-16 tons based on formerly known numbers and the positioning of the drone ship. This is most likely the heaviest Falcon 9 launch yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightside Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Ultimate Steve said: This is most likely the heaviest Falcon 9 launch yet. Well they are probably willing to push their equipment beyond typical safety margins for an in-house operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 (edited) This is really thinking outside the box. Never occurred to me that they could fit 60 sats in there of that mass. They need ~2218 in orbit within about 5 years to keep their total constellation number. That's 37 launches of F9 in this configuration. They could do that in the last couple years if needed. As it is, they can do it in 5 with just 7-8 flights a year devoted to Starlink, no Starship needed. Edited May 12, 2019 by tater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 5 hours ago, sh1pman said: SIXTY! It's a satellite magazine! Lock and load, team. And hopefully unlock again, once you get to space... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Nightside said: Well they are probably willing to push their equipment beyond typical safety margins for an in-house operation. They did use water soaked fairings... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Ultimate Steve said: Elon says that they are flat packed, that there is no dispenser. It looks like they dispense from each other. Hopefully it's designed so that if one separator fails, the others can still deploy. The analysts over at r/SpaceX have estimated the payload mass at 15-16 tons based on formerly known numbers and the positioning of the drone ship. This is most likely the heaviest Falcon 9 launch yet. 15 ton then each weight 250 kg. As as they separate from each other one separation might leave the satellite below connected to it so it probably fail but it can still separate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinimumSky5 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Oneweb: We've just launched our first 6 satellites! Musk: Hold my beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 60 satellites in one launch. Gotta be a new record Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 29 minutes ago, Scotius said: 60 satellites in one launch. Gotta be a new record India’s got 100+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh1pman Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 23 minutes ago, DDE said: India’s got 100+. Debris from ASAT test doesn’t count. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 3 hours ago, DDE said: India’s got 100+. Yeah, but these are not cubesats. In fact, those were "nanosatellites." (1-10kg each). For context: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 And weather for Wednesday: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 35 minutes ago, tater said: Yeah, but these are not cubesats. In fact, those were "nanosatellites." (1-10kg each). For context: Makes perfect sense, upper bulkhead is on top of the fuel tank part. You then put the nose on top of that. It will be equipment on top of the bulkhead similar to on the hopper but they will probably move computers and other stuff who don't need to be close to engines up here to as its easy to service on the floor in the cargo bay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CatastrophicFailure Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 The other traffic going by: Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racescort666 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 21 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said: Volume limited. Volume limited indeed. Atlas V's fairing is 12.2 m to the start of the ogive vs the Falcon 9's 6.7 m... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Racescort666 said: Atlas V's fairing is 12.2 m to the start of the ogive vs the Falcon 9's 6.7 m... I doubt these will be launching on an Atlas tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racescort666 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 35 minutes ago, CatastrophicFailure said: I doubt these will be launching on an Atlas tho... yeah... that was supposed to be a joke and I guess it wasn't that funny. I'll do better next time, I promise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatastrophicFailure Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, Racescort666 said: yeah... that was supposed to be a joke and I guess it wasn't that funny. I'll do better next time, I promise. Went right over my head... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reactordrone Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 4 hours ago, Racescort666 said: Atlas V's fairing is 12.2 m to the start of the ogive vs the Falcon 9's 6.7 m... Yeah but the Atlas fairing has the entire upper stage inside it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaff Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 (edited) Wait, I’ve been assuming something that I think I need to be reigned in on. starhopper currently the tank with no nose that has hopped up once with 1 raptor is sat at bocca chica. Orbital hopper is being built simultaneously but I had assumed they were building another hopper like structure only bigger and with 3 raptors bolted up. Am I wrong? Mate they actually just going to bolt the new orbital hopper nose being built onto the original 1 engine hopper and throw 3 engines on there and send it up? Edited May 13, 2019 by Jaff . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnemoe Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jaff said: Wait, I’ve been assuming something that I think I need to be reigned in on. starhopper currently the tank with no nose that has hopped up once with 1 raptor is sat at bocca chica. Orbital hopper is being built simultaneously but I had assumed they were building another hopper like structure only bigger and with 3 raptors bolted up. Am I wrong? Mate they actually just going to bolt the new orbital hopper nose being built onto the original 1 engine hopper and throw 3 engines on there and send it up? The hopper will get 3 engines later. The orbital prototype is the other thing they build, if will have 7 engines and they hope to get it to orbit, they are also doing some construction on an first stage i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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