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1 hour ago, Racescort666 said:

If this is to be believed, there isn't a big improvement. However, as I've posted previously, I disagree. I really need better information on the specific impulse of the BE-3U though. I suspect that it is around 430s +/- 10s (same as what we were saying up thread) but only because my best analogue is the J-2 which isn't even the same cycle. If the BE-3U actually has this performance, they're looking at 55-60t to LEO although they'll probably have to fly a slightly different flight profile due to the lower TWR which may impact the payload.

Less thrust on upper stage - steeper ascent - less horizontal velocity on stage sep - easier to RTLS the booster (or smaller braking burn needed if using a drone ship). Easier booster recovery may outweigh the payload penalty from increased gravity losses. 

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13 hours ago, sh1pman said:

Less thrust on upper stage - steeper ascent - less horizontal velocity on stage sep - easier to RTLS the booster (or smaller braking burn needed if using a drone ship). Easier booster recovery may outweigh the payload penalty from increased gravity losses. 

I'm not sure how this information will be helpful but by my calculation, the baseline dV of various upper stages are as follows:

I have updated my spreadsheet a little since I last posted performance numbers so this is a little more conservative than previously posted. It still reflects a 2 engine hydrolox New Glenn upper stage; TWR can be improved by adding more engines at 1362 kg (conservative estimate) each but that directly impacts payload capacity.

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10 minutes ago, tater said:

Unsure. There is a NOTAM that expires today, but only to 8,000 feet (2400m) altitude AGL.

Can't find a new NOTAM for Sunday.

Maybe a small test flight today (no livestream, booster only?) and a full crewed flight on Sunday?

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Sorry, Jeff, without some details (like first manned flight), I ain’t getting up at 6:30 on a Sunday. :huh:

because of course Jeff Bezos himself and/or one of his minions personally reads this thread and cares what I say in it. 

and I mean actual Minions... like the silly yellow guys who speak gobbledygook... because we all know Besoz totally has Minions.... lots of Minions...

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54 minutes ago, tater said:

If this happens over the summer, I'm gonna just drive down there. I lack the will to head down after dinner tonight and camp out, though (it's a 5 hour drive or so).

If you ever go up on one, you could find your house!

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19 hours ago, CatastrophicFailure said:

Sorry, Jeff, without some details (like first manned flight), I ain’t getting up at 6:30 on a Sunday. :huh:

because of course Jeff Bezos himself and/or one of his minions personally reads this thread and cares what I say in it. 

and I mean actual Minions... like the silly yellow guys who speak gobbledygook... because we all know Besoz totally has Minions.... lots of Minions...

Bello! Bezo!

Yep,  that totally fits. :)

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