Cristy2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 3 minutes ago, Jebs_SY said: Totally agree. I can't understand why that "free" DLC is so important to so much people. I see a payed DLC as a nice option to support the developer, without the need for buying the game twice (ups, I already purchased it twice), get something nice from the DLC and enabling the continous development of a great game at the same time. Yeah I agree with that, the thing is that people want Squad to keep developing the game or adding new features for free, that makes complete non-sense from a business point of view. I wouldn't mind paying 20€ every year if they keep adding new stuff and improving the core of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SpannerMonkey(smce) Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, TheRagingIrishman said: I'd appreciate it if you shared the parts you're worried about. I know in this time period that such things are required, however i've never appreciated people who go straight in on the ass covering, Sounds exactly like every buy (3) out I've had the displeasure of being involved with, lots of maybe if's and buts, that in the end translated to simply you're all stuffed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Just now, Cristy2017 said: Yeah I agree with that, the thing is that people want Squad to keep developing the game or adding new features for free, that makes complete non-sense from a business point of view. I wouldn't mind paying 20€ every year if they keep adding new stuff and improving the core of the game. Yes, thank you. People want new stuff but the stuff needs to be paid for somehow and KSP isn't selling like it did before. You can see it on steam. Edited May 31, 2017 by Spartwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRagingIrishman Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Tykylo said: Oh so they're trying to make it into a franchise now? KSP was just fine as a simple game, making it into a franchise will just ruin it. Why? What would be the problem with keeping KSP and then adding other mostly realistic Kerbal Sims for other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, TheRagingIrishman said: Why? What would be the problem with keeping KSP and then adding other mostly realistic Kerbal Sims for other stuff? KSP was just fine as a simple game, I don't see the point in making it into a franchise other than to squeeze out more money. 2 minutes ago, SpannerMonkey(smce) said: I know in this time period that such things are required, however i've never appreciated people who go straight in on the ass covering, Sounds exactly like every buy (3) out I've had the displeasure of being involved with, lots of maybe if's and buts, that in the end translated to simply you're all stuffed. Yeah, pretty much lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedsolo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Tykylo said: KSP was just fine as a simple game, I don't see the point in making it into a franchise other than to squeeze out more money. So don't buy it. Companies exist to make money. If that means expanding your franchise, so be it. If you don't like it don't buy it. KSP itself is not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, severedsolo said: So don't buy it. Companies exist to make money. If that means expanding your franchise, so be it. If you don't like it don't buy it. KSP itself is not going anywhere. I know, I have that choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristy2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tykylo said: KSP was just fine as a simple game, I don't see the point in making it into a franchise other than to squeeze out more money. KSP won't last for ever, taxes won't pay by themselves Edited May 31, 2017 by Cristy2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Cristy2017 said: KSP won't last for ever, taxes aren't paying by themselves Well if development on KSP (KSP 1, because it's a franchise now) was pretty much done and it became abandonware, by all means, I'd love to play a finished game for once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cristy2017 Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, Tykylo said: Well if development on KSP (KSP 1, because it's a franchise now) was pretty much done and it became abandonware, by all means, I'd love to play a finished game for once. You can already do that, the game is finished as it is, and you can also add tons of stuff to the game with mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urses Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 13 minutes ago, Tykylo said: It was free DLC when I bought it. I don't have a problem when devs release content for free, it's when they price said content at 10+ USD that I get worried, to say the least. Like said before... it was not a DLC. KSP did provided 2 modes the prominent one was/is "Asteroid Day". And they are mostly integrated in vanilla 1.3 at the moment, but the first DLC is the upcomming "Making History" and this is only free for the "old guard" This was a misinformation from you, and sorry i was a lottle sarcastic because it is a running troublemaker at the forums. @topic we have gone through some changes with KSP. T2 is a provider amd like all others Businessman they look for profit. Who knows maybe the Contracts would become logical through this experience? On other hand buisness and logic.... nevermind... Let us go the pessimist way and look what will come. This way we can't be disappointed but there is a chance to be positively surprised. Nah... Best of luck at SQUAD and let us hope for best. Funny Kabooms Urses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Cristy2017 said: You can already do that, the game is finished as it is, and you can also add tons of stuff to the game with mods. As amazing as KSP is, it is far from finished. There's a lot of issues involving rocket parts and mods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlrk Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Don't mess with mods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRagingIrishman Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, dlrk said: Don't mess with mods! They've already said they won't (I'd quote it but I'm on mobile and quotes do not like mobile) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedsolo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tykylo said: There's a lot of issues involving rocket parts and mods. Care to elaborate? I'm assuming you are talking about the rocket part art-pass (which is really needed IMO) - this is probably the best case scenario for this one. TT may be able to provide the cash for artists who can make this happen. We already know the chances of it happening before this change were pretty much zero. Once again, we cannot be in a worse position than the one we are already in. I'm not really sure what you meant about issues around mods. As a modder myself, I can't say I have many issues - I'm gonna assume you are talking about the API, which frankly is amazing compared to some other games. Edited May 31, 2017 by severedsolo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyKaptn Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 also, the upcoming dlc will be a game changer with the mission builder where ppl can share their missions, make challenges etc. This alone is a new age for KSP. Who knows what comes next. Multi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, SkyKaptn said: also, the upcoming dlc will be a game changer with the mission builder where ppl can share their missions, make challenges etc. This alone is a new age for KSP. Who knows what comes next. Multi? The DLC will be a mesh of other existing mods, except it would be paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UomoCapra Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, SkyKaptn said: also, the upcoming dlc will be a game changer with the mission builder where ppl can share their missions, make challenges etc. This alone is a new age for KSP. Who knows what comes next. Multi? The focus remains to be the development of KSP, Making History Expansion, and the upgraded version of KSP on consoles. After that, we’ll see what comes next and we’ll let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Tykylo said: The DLC will be a mesh of other existing mods, except it would be paid. What existing mod adds a mission builder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerbart Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 19 minutes ago, Tykylo said: KSP was just fine as a simple game, making it into a franchise will just ruin it. Explain to me how the current game will be "ruined." Will TT delete it from my hard disk? Will GTA content suddenly show up on Duna? You may have some romantic idea on what KSP development should be, in your mind, and that image is ruined. I'm sorry for your loss. But nowhere have I found any shred of even a suggestion that TT is going to take the current game and morph it into something completely else. So how the game would be ruined is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedsolo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, UomoCapra said: The focus remains to be the development of KSP, Making History Expansion, Your comma confuses me. Did you mean KSP: Making History (ie the expansion) or KSP, Making History (ie both the core game and the DLC together) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tykylo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Just now, Spartwo said: What existing mod adds a mission builder? A mod that I played around with a while back that I forgot the name of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartwo Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) Worst case scenario in my mind TT makes the KSP devs add features like autopilot to ease the learning curve and make KSP a bit more accessible to a wider audience. But that's one of the most popular mods out there so it's not like it's against the wishes of the majority. Edited May 31, 2017 by Spartwo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brent Kerman Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tykylo said: The DLC will be a mesh of other existing mods, except it would be paid. I'm downloading those right now, so I have most of the DLC. (Because I'm NOT getting it now!) 1 minute ago, Tykylo said: A mod that I played around with a while back that I forgot the name of. I WANT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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