KSP Interstellar Extended Continued Development Thread

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

3 minutes ago, raxo2222 said:

what about other resources? This confing edit made hydrogen last much longer. Also this way I can supply AIM with fuel.

Exactly what edits did you make?

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

6 minutes ago, FreeThinker said:

Exactly what edits did you make?

I replaced all produceGlobal = False with produceGlobal = True for all QSR reactions (not just antimatter) in reactor fuels cfg.

Now my spaceship can produce antimatter, deuter and he3 for AIM reactors for eternity.

I set 2 Quasar reactors to pure hydrogen fusion and 2 other quasars to p+D fusion.

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

6 minutes ago, raxo2222 said:

I replaced all produceGlobal = False with produceGlobal = True for all QSR reactions (not just antimatter) in reactor fuels cfg.

mmm, good to hear this works, but does it also perform correctly under high time acceleration? notice there is also a hidden property ConsumeGlobal which does the same for fuel consumption.

It might be an issue for other reactors as well which essentialy use the same fuctionality, but due to their low amount never borthered anyone

Edited May 24, 2016 by FreeThinker

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

54 minutes ago, raxo2222 said:

in second screenshot album in my post >.>

Also atmo composition is wrong:

for Venus it should be:

96.5% carbon dioxide

3.5% nitrogen

0.015% sulfur dioxide

0.007% argon

0.002% water vapour

0.0017% carbon monoxide

0.0012% helium

0.0007% neon

trace carbonyl sulfide

trace hydrogen chloride

trace hydrogen fluoride

and in game it is around 67% of CO2 and 33% of nitrogen.

I just noticed the KSPI atmospherre definition is the same as Eve. somehow I never got around to giving them the proper values.

Could you do me a favor and fixed the atmosphericsourcedefintions.cfg file and give all Real planets their real composition

rayredd · May 24, 2016

First of all, loving this mod. Really enjoying the gameplay it adds to the game!

I'm new to the forum so please tell me if I should report this elsewhere but I noticed a strange bug yesterday. The problem I encountered was that, when creating a rocket that has both a Thermal Electric Generator and a Closed-Cycle Gas Core engine, my ISP dropped from 10k+ to < 1000 m/s. After clicking around I noticed that the mass of the Thermal Electric Generator shoots up as soon as I connect the Lightbulb to it. I've made some screenshots and created an Imgur album. As you can see from screenshot 2 to 3 the mass shoots up from 46,120 kg to 2,627.62 tons.

http://imgur.com/a/j1W8x

I'm also curious if the thrust is correct on the first screenshot. If I launch this (with some radiators of course). It basically goes from 0 to 2000 m/s before my finger leaves the space bar.

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

2 hours ago, FreeThinker said:

mmm, good to hear this works, but does it also perform correctly under high time acceleration? notice there is also a hidden property ConsumeGlobal which does the same for fuel consumption.

It might be an issue for other reactors as well which essentialy use the same fuctionality, but due to their low amount never borthered anyone

well while Deuter/He3 tank was filling nicely I wasn't testing it with AIM, just with antimatter reactor. 1.25m antimatter reactor couldn't consume all this antimatter - qsr was produching so much of it. (I use microwave transmitter to keep reactors busy)

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

10 hours ago, FreeThinker said:

I just noticed the KSPI atmospherre definition is the same as Eve. somehow I never got around to giving them the proper values.

Could you do me a favor and fixed the atmosphericsourcedefintions.cfg file and give all Real planets their real composition

Fine

I went trough planets and moons in RSS/Kopernicus planet configs, I found following objects have atmosphere:

Pressure on ground level (lowest point)/altitude of edge of atmosphere/gravity strength.

Venus: 109.05 atm / 150 km / 8.87 m/s²

Earth - 101.325 kpa / 140 km / 9.807 m/s²

Mars - 1.15 kpa / 125 km / 3.711 m/s²

Jupiter - 1000 atm / 1400 km / 24.79 m/s²

Saturn - 1000 atm / 2000 km / 10.44 m/s²

Titan - 159 kpa / 650 km / 1.352 m/s²

Uranus - 1000 atm / 1800 km / 8.69 m/s²

Neptune - 1000 atm / 1400 km / 11.15 m/s²

Triton - 16.5 pa / 120 km / 0.779 m/s²

Pluto - 1 pa / 130 km / 0.62 m/s²

Looks like Triton and Pluto are viable for atmospheric isru too

Is abudunance setting an atmospheric resources confing going by mass, or by volume?

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

13 minutes ago, raxo2222 said:

Fine

I went trough planets and moons in RSS/Kopernicus planet configs, I found following objects have atmosphere:

Pressure on ground level (lowest point)/altitude of edge of atmosphere:

Venus: 109.05 atm / 150 km

Earth - 101.325 kpa / 140 km

Mars - 1.15 kpa / 125 km

Jupiter - 1000 atm / 1400 km

Saturn - 1000 atm / 2000 km

Titan - 159 kpa / 650 km

Uranus - 1000 atm / 1800 km

Neptune - 1000 atm / 1400 km

Triton - 16.5 pa / 120 km

Pluto - 1 pa / 130 km

Looks like Triton and Pluto are viable for atmospheric isru too

Is abudunance setting an atmospheric resources confing going by mass, or by volume?

By volume.

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

Aaaand there are definitions for Venus (i will post them for rest of objects):

Take note, that compound volumes may not add to 100% due to rounding and uncertainness or variability.

So actual abundance in game may deviate by few percent from what was written in config.

For example in game it may show, that atmosphere of Venus have 96.49% of CO2 or Earth atmosphere may have 0.00000401% of Ammonia in volume

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.965
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.035
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.00007
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.00002
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.000012
   resourceName = Helium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusNeon
   guiName = Neon
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.00001
   resourceName = NeonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.0000003
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = VenusKrypton
   guiName = Krypton
   celestialBodyName = Venus
   abundance = 0.000000009
   resourceName = KryptonGas
}

Earth

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.78084
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthOxygen
   guiName = Oxygen
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.20948
   resourceName = LqdOxygen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.01
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00934
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00038
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthNeon
   guiName = Neon
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00001818
   resourceName = NeonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00000524
   resourceName = Helium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.000002
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthKrypton
   guiName = Krypton
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00000114
   resourceName = KryptonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.0000005
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.0000002
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthXenon
   guiName = Xenon
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.000000087
   resourceName = XenonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = EarthAmmonia
   guiName = Ammonia
   celestialBodyName = Earth
   abundance = 0.00000004
   resourceName = LqdAmmonia
}

Mars

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.953
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.027
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.016
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.0027
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsOxygen
   guiName = Oxygen
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.0013
   resourceName = LqdOxygen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.0003
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsNeon
   guiName = Neon
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.0000025
   resourceName = NeonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsKrypton
   guiName = Krypton
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.0000003
   resourceName = KryptonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = MarsXenon
   guiName = Xenon
   celestialBodyName = Mars
   abundance = 0.00000008
   resourceName = XenonGas
}

Jupiter Got isotopes from here.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.898
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.09714
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.00319
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolAmmonia
   guiName = Ammonia
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.0002647
   resourceName = LqdAmmonia
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolDeuterium
   guiName = Deuterium
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.00003
   resourceName = LqdDeuterium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JoolHelium3
   guiName = Helium3
   celestialBodyName = Jool
   abundance = 0.0009714
   resourceName = LqdHe3
}

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.863
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.1515
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0024
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterAmmonia
   guiName = Ammonia
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0005
   resourceName = LqdAmmonia
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.000066
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterNeon
   guiName = Neon
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.000023
   resourceName = NeonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterDeuterium
   guiName = Deuterium
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0000194
   resourceName = LqdDeuterium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterHelium3
   guiName = Helium3
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0000161
   resourceName = LqdHe3
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.000009
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterKrypton
   guiName = Krypton
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.00000000865
   resourceName = KryptonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterXenon
   guiName = Xenon
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0000000051
   resourceName = XenonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = JupiterCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Jupiter
   abundance = 0.0000000001
   resourceName = LqdCO
}

Saturn Couldn't find isotope ratios, picked same as Jupiter ones.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.96
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.06
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.0028
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnAmmonia
   guiName = Ammonia
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.00005
   resourceName = LqdAmmonia
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnDeuterium
   guiName = Deuterium
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.0000216
   resourceName = LqdDeuterium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnHelium3
   guiName = Helium3
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.00001
   resourceName = LqdHe3
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.0000001505
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.00000000235
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = SaturnCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Saturn
   abundance = 0.00000000025
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}

Titan I guessed trace element compositions.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.984
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.014
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.0015
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.00002
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.000015
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.000005
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TitanHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Titan
   abundance = 0.000001
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}

Uranus He He He..... funny name... Helium 3 confirmed. Since D/H ratio is over twice as high than in Jupiter, I doubled He3/He4 ratio of that in jupiter.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.85
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusHelium
   guiName = LqdHelium
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.15
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.015
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusAmmonia
   guiName = Ammonia
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.00005
   resourceName = LqdAmmonia
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusHelium3
   guiName = Helium3
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.000049
   resourceName = LqdHE3
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusDeutrium
   guiName = Deutrium
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.000047
   resourceName = LqdDeutrium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.00000035
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.0000000075
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = UranusCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Uranus
   abundance = 0.00000000025
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}

Neptune Couldn't find isotope ratios, so I picked same as for Uranus.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.8
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneHelium
   guiName = Helium
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.19
   resourceName = LqdHelium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.015
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneHelium3
   guiName = Helium3
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.000063
   resourceName = LqdHe3
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneDeuterium
   guiName = Deuterium
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.000044
   resourceName = LqdDeuterium
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.0000006
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneWater
   guiName = Water Vapor
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.00000000255
   resourceName = Water
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = NeptuneCarbonDioxide
   guiName = Carbon Dioxide
   celestialBodyName = Neptune
   abundance = 0.00000000035
   resourceName = LqdCO2
}

Triton I guessed composition.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.98
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.009
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.006
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.001
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonArgon
   guiName = Argon
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.0005
   resourceName = ArgonGas
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = TritonNeon
   guiName = Neon
   celestialBodyName = Triton
   abundance = 0.0004
   resourceName = NeonGas
}

Pluto Guessed as well.

ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = PlutoNitrogen
   guiName = Nitrogen
   celestialBodyName = Pluto
   abundance = 0.7
   resourceName = LqdNitrogen
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = PlutoMethane
   guiName = Methane
   celestialBodyName = Pluto
   abundance = 0.25
   resourceName = LqdMethane
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = PlutoCarbonMonoxide
   guiName = Carbon Monoxide
   celestialBodyName = Pluto
   abundance = 0.0625
   resourceName = LqdCO
}
ATMOSPHERIC_RESOURCE_DEFINITION
{
   name = PlutoHydrogen
   guiName = Hydrogen
   celestialBodyName = Pluto
   abundance = 0.0001
   resourceName = LqdHydrogen
}

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

@raxo2222 According to my soures, all gas planet, inclusing uranus should have trace amounts of Helium3

It should be a good reason to start a mining colony at uranus which has a significantly lower gravity well than jupiter

It would be most efficient if you could create a floating factory in uranus atmoshpere, Collect the Helium3, and launch a return rocket back into orbit using Nuclear Engine which runs on scooped Hydrogen

Edited May 24, 2016 by FreeThinker

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

7 minutes ago, FreeThinker said:

@raxo2222 According to my soures, all gas planet, inclusing uranus should have trace amounts of Helium3

It should be a good reason to start a mining colony at uranus which has a significantly lower gravity well than jupiter

I know, I didn't finished it yet - I didn't calculated isotope proportions yet - wolphram doesn't show He3 or Deuter.

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

SciMan · May 24, 2016

2 hours ago, raxo2222 said:

Uranus He He He..... funny name...

@raxo2222

And that's why I always pronounce it "you-ran-us".

@FreeThinker

That's a great modification to my idea, it's basically exactly what I wanted but I was holding myself back a little because I thought it might be difficult or impossible to code it (I don't know the Unity/KSP limitations for plugin coding very well, apparently).

This is fantastically good news. Guess I'm going to have to find or edit in a few badS engineers. Maybe one called "Scotty Kerman", and another called "Geordi Kerman".

One question, would I be able to keep adding a certain type of crew to a ship to keep improving it?

If not, would it cap out at a certain sum of crew experience for that type of crew (ex. maximum 15 "stars" for engineers, 15 for scientists, 15 for pilots), a certain sum of crew experience total (ex. 45 stars max benefit no matter the crew composition), or would it cap out at a certain number of crew of any experience level (ex. top 9 most experienced crew on the vessel)?

Also, would adding additional AI cores add more performance, or would it be a "one per vessel" type thing with additional AI cores not having an effect?
I was thinking that the computer AI would not only assist the crew, but it would be fully capable of replacing crew on a 1-for-1 basis.
One AI core = one crew, each AI core can be set to substitute for a pilot, scientist, or engineer (can be re-set in flight if the vessel has an antenna because it's basically a software update), and upgrading an AI core by one level would provide the same benefits to ship performance that a crewmember of one level higher would perform.

raxo2222 · May 24, 2016

I cant find full composition of Titan/Triton/Pluto

Edited May 24, 2016 by raxo2222

iliketrains0pwned · May 24, 2016

Do you have plans on adding in a direct antimatter engine? It could run off of a mixture of matter (LFO, deuterium, argon, etc.) and antimatter to produce very high efficiency or very high impulse thrust. But there is a catch. While the engine is on, it produces a TON of waste heat. The only way you're gonna make it in one piece is if you really love radiators.

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

29 minutes ago, raxo2222 said:

I cant find full composition of Titan/Triton/Pluto

That Ok, you can make some educated guesses if needed

spirokai · May 24, 2016

The mass of Molten Salt Reactor is acting very strangely when scaling it up and down and negative part mass is starting to show up (up to -17 ton). What is also very strange, at 1.25 m radius, the empty mass is 8 ton, which is 8 times higher than pebble bed reactor of that size (empty mass 1 ton). Is that intended?

Edited May 24, 2016 by spirokai

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

5 minutes ago, spirokai said:

The mass of Molten Salt Reactor is acting very strangely when scaling it up and down and negative part mass is starting to show up (up to -17 ton). What is also very strange, at 1.25 m radius, the empty mass is 8 ton, which is 8 times higher than pebble bed reactor of that size (empty mass 1 ton). Is that intended?

What versions of Tweakscale, KSPI-E and IFS are you using ?

Edited May 24, 2016 by FreeThinker

subitan · May 24, 2016

my weights are going all weird too - the thermo-electric generator has a constant weight of 6t in the parts list in VAB, but 1333t when attached, adn which doesn't scale at all with the part scaling.

I'm using:

Tweakscale v2.2.12
KSPI-E 1.8.20

The generator also lists a "mass modiefier" in the info box, of 1, FWIW.

spirokai · May 24, 2016

18 minutes ago, FreeThinker said:

What versions of Tweakscale, KSPI-E and IFS are you using ?

Everything is up to date.

The values are:

1.25 m - 9.2 t producing 160 kW of energy

2.5 m - 12.5 t producing 2 MW of energy.

The dry mass of 1.25 is actually higher than that for 2.5 (8.6 vs 8, respectively).

EDIT: OK this is veeeeeery strange. If I scale it up to 1.875 and then scale down back to 1.25m, the mass is correct (~ 2.2 t). The same behavior is observed for 1.875 m. In the other words,the first scaling to the particular size gives wrong values, any subsequent scaling to that particular size provides the correct values.Is this a bug of tweakscale?

Edited May 24, 2016 by spirokai

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

1 hour ago, SciMan said:

This is fantastically good news. Guess I'm going to have to find or edit in a few badS engineers. Maybe one called "Scotty Kerman", and another called "Geordi Kerman".

One question, would I be able to keep adding a certain type of crew to a ship to keep improving it?

If not, would it cap out at a certain sum of crew experience for that type of crew (ex. maximum 15 "stars" for engineers, 15 for scientists, 15 for pilots), a certain sum of crew experience total (ex. 45 stars max benefit no matter the crew composition), or would it cap out at a certain number of crew of any experience level (ex. top 9 most experienced crew on the vessel)?

It depend, on the quality of the crew. The general idea is that there is no substitute for experience, but you can compensate with less trained crew if you don't have a all stars team.

This is subject to change but my initial idea on how to calculate crew quality in a specific discipline:

Expertise Quality Factor = (sum of expertise best 3 Kerbals / 18) / sqrt(number of Kerbals to reach 18 expertise / 3 )

Kerbal expertise value = level + 1

missing Kerbal count for 0.5

SciMan · May 24, 2016

25 minutes ago, FreeThinker said:

It depend, on the quality of the crew. The general idea is that there is no substitute for experience, but you can compensate with less trained crew if you don't have a all stars team.

This is subject to change but my initial idea on how to calculate crew quality in a specific discipline:

Expertise Quality Factor = (sum of expertise best 3 Kerbals / 18) / sqrt(number of Kerbals to reach 18 expertise / 3 )

Kerbal expertise value = level + 1

missing Kerbal count for 0.5

What about more than one AI core on a ship?

Would you need an AI core for each reactor you wanted to upgrade, or would you only need one for the entire ship?

Would having more AI cores than reactors mean the additional AI cores could substitute for crewmembers?

If not, would they add their own bonuses separate from crew bonuses, or would the additional AI cores just be so much dead weight (with the possible exception of science research)?.

Speaking of AI science research, computer cores that are doing science research shouldn't have a limit to the amount of science they can generate in any one location (if that's possible). Not sure if thats how it already works. AI that are doing scientific research should have a fixed rate of science data generation, multiplied by where the AI core is in the solar system (same as stock experiments) and the skill level of any scientists on-board (also same as stock experiments).

This would allow a player to "raise" an AI core from it's most basic to it's most advanced upgrade level by sending it out somewhere to learn (generate science points to upgrade itself), or spend science points they already accumulated to get it upgraded immediately.

The easiest way I can think of to implement this (minimal coding required) would be to make it act basically the same as the KSPI science lab, but remove the crew requirement at the cost of greater power consumption. It would have the same science experiment module that accumulates science data over time (different experiment ID so you can have both on the same vessel and not get duplicate experiments), and a science lab module that doesn't require any crew (with 10k data storage and science storage caps).

FreeThinker · May 24, 2016

42 minutes ago, subitan said:

my weights are going all weird too - the thermo-electric generator has a constant weight of 6t in the parts list in VAB, but 1333t when attached, adn which doesn't scale at all with the part scaling.

I'm using:

Tweakscale v2.2.12

KSPI-E 1.8.20

The generator also lists a "mass modiefier" in the info box, of 1, FWIW.

This is intended, the generator mass depends on the amount of power output and type of reactor with more advanced reactor requiring less generator mass

spirokai · May 24, 2016

6 minutes ago, FreeThinker said:

This is intended, the generator mass depends on the amount of power output and type of reactor with more advanced reactor requiring less generator mass

FreeThinker, is there a way to estimate lifetime of a reactor at particular (or even 100%) power output? I am planning a mission to Plock (~55 yrs flight time) and I have no idea how much UF4 to take.

subitan · May 24, 2016

52 minutes ago, subitan said:

my weights are going all weird too - the thermo-electric generator has a constant weight of 6t in the parts list in VAB, but 1333t when attached, adn which doesn't scale at all with the part scaling.

I'm using:

Tweakscale v2.2.12

KSPI-E 1.8.20

The generator also lists a "mass modiefier" in the info box, of 1, FWIW.

Ok - that was weird. Totally abandoned that craft, created a new one, and it was fine. There was some strange part interaction going on that I can't (now) reproduce. /shrug.

Nansuchao · May 24, 2016

2 minutes ago, spirokai said:

FreeThinker, is there a way to estimate lifetime of a reactor at particular (or even 100%) power output? I am planning a mission to Plock (~55 yrs flight time) and I have no idea how much UF4 to take.

Just avoid to set that ship as the active vessel until it reach his destination. KSPI doesn't calculate in background the consumption.

But shhh, don't say that to FreeThinker

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