DDE Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 7:09 PM, kerbiloid said: If S7 (former Siberia) succeeds, it will become the first regular airlines company flying into space. Expand Branson BTFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 10:24 AM, DDE said: Branson BTFO. Expand Well, S7 got ninja'd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teilnehmer Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/5/2018 at 7:09 PM, kerbiloid said: it will become the first regular airlines company flying into space. Expand What about Boeing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/6/2018 at 3:38 PM, Teilnehmer said: What about Boeing? Expand not an Airline Company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 1/3/2018 at 3:14 PM, tater said: The Salyut-7 movie is on Amazon Prime, BTW. Expand Wait, what? What's that? (I recently finished the English translation of Lebedev's 'Diary of a Cosmonaut,' so I've been on a 'Salyut' kick.) (Interestingly, the copy I found appears to be autographed by Lebedev himself, though I'll need to find someone to confirm that-- I can just barely make out Serbian cyrillic cursive-- Russian cursive handwriting is beyond my abilities!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 6, 2018 Author Share Posted January 6, 2018 A lot of the movie is entirely goofy compared to what actually happened. Was none the less entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) On 1/6/2018 at 5:01 PM, MaxwellsDemon said: Wait, what? What's that? (I recently finished the English translation of Lebedev's 'Diary of a Cosmonaut,' so I've been on a 'Salyut' kick.) (Interestingly, the copy I found appears to be autographed by Lebedev himself, though I'll need to find someone to confirm that-- I can just barely make out Serbian cyrillic cursive-- Russian cursive handwriting is beyond my abilities!) Expand Severely fictionalized account of Soyuz-T-13. Also, you could try and compare. Reveal hidden contents Edited January 6, 2018 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) On 1/6/2018 at 5:01 PM, MaxwellsDemon said: DDE: Severely fictionalized account of Soyuz-T-13. Ah, the repair mission. I can see how that might make a film... though the 'severely fictionalized' part concerns me. The autograph does seem to match. I'll see if I can scan it and show it... Edited January 6, 2018 by MaxwellsDemon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) On 1/6/2018 at 5:01 PM, MaxwellsDemon said: There we go. Edited January 10, 2018 by MaxwellsDemon Correcting display of image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 Khrunichev wants to pitch this thing again. For the third time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) On 1/10/2018 at 7:12 PM, DDE said: Khrunichev wants to pitch this thing again. For the third time. Expand As a launch vehicle requires 4 of them at once, it will be not that easy to implement it in KSP. On another hand, BDArmory mod family allows to pilot a (s)quad of them at once. Edited January 10, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) On 1/10/2018 at 7:18 PM, kerbiloid said: As a launch vehicle requires 4 of them at once, it will be not that easy to implement it in KSP. On another hand, BDArmory mod family allows to pilot a (s)quad of them at once. Expand Ahem... they want it as part of a single-stack Angara. Edited January 10, 2018 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 (edited) On 1/10/2018 at 8:05 PM, DDE said: they want it as part of a single-stack Angara. Expand And https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/46079/ Reveal hidden contents https://2ch.hk/spc/arch/2016-07-06/res/251286.html Reveal hidden contents Reminds me about some variant of Energy. Reveal hidden contents Also herehttp://epizodsspace.airbase.ru/bibl/tm/2001/10/baykal.html Reveal hidden contents Edited January 10, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 10, 2018 Author Share Posted January 10, 2018 That's actually a pretty cool idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotius Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 9:06 PM, tater said: That's actually a pretty cool idea. Expand Pretty Kerbal, too Two to four winged, detachable boosters on the sides. I wonder what onboard flight cotrol would make out of this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 wouldn't the air intake get filled with exhaust from the second stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Reveal hidden contents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 @kerbiloid how would you get that out while traveling at hypersonic speeds, and possibly getting welded in place by the engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 (edited) On 1/11/2018 at 5:56 AM, insert_name said: how would you get that out while traveling at hypersonic speeds, and possibly getting welded in place by the engine Expand Probably I can't understand the question. What's a problem to decouple a nosecone? The side blocks decouple at several tens kilometers height, reentry, slow down to subsonic speed, open the wings and fins, extend or unshroud the air intake. (I have read that the intake would extend from the top, but maybe they now prefer to place it in the nose.) Then the block flies to an airdrome propelled with a turbojet. Edited January 11, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insert_name Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 6:51 AM, kerbiloid said: Probably I can't understand the question. What's a problem to decouple a nosecone? The side blocks decouple at several tens kilometers height, reentry, slow down to subsonic speed, open the wings and fins, extend or unshroud the air intake. (I have read that the intake would extend from the top, but maybe they now prefer to place it in the nose.) Then the block flies to an airdrome propelled with a turbojet. Expand I was referring to your proposal to use a cork (or more likely just a plug of some sort) to prevent exhaust from entering the air intake during the hot staging event. It seems like it would be difficult to detach without getting debris from pyrotechnic separators in the intake, not to mention the issues with heating from hot staging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 7:10 PM, insert_name said: the hot staging event Expand Just because there’s a Soyuz-style lattice doesn’t mean it’s a hot staging. Angara to the best of my ability to Google uses cold staging, no ullage rockets, and two first stage retromotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/11/2018 at 9:34 PM, DDE said: Just because there’s a Soyuz-style lattice doesn’t mean it’s a hot staging. Angara to the best of my ability to Google uses cold staging, no ullage rockets, and two first stage retromotors. Expand Please forgive my ignorance-- I had always assumed the lattices were there because of hot staging. Is there another benefit to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 9:33 AM, MaxwellsDemon said: the lattices were there because of hot staging. Is there another benefit to them? Expand 1. Artist's imagination. That's how maestro sees the world. 2. As we can see, these payload, fairing and booster have nothing common in size. Maybe using a lightweight lattice interstage is a lesser evil in this case than making a massive cone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) So, a rocket. https://translate.google.ru/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=ru&ie=UTF-8&u=www.interfax.ru/russia/596681&edit-text= Quote the liquid-propellant rocket engine of external expansion with a modular combustion chamber with a shortened central body Expand I.e aerospike Edited January 23, 2018 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 9:33 AM, MaxwellsDemon said: Please forgive my ignorance-- I had always assumed the lattices were there because of hot staging. Is there another benefit to them? Expand The Russians hot-stage (next stage ignition and staging at the same time). The lattice is for the exhaust gasses to escape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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