Codraroll Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 21 hours ago, steve9728 said: I was thinking that it shouldn't be too difficult to add a self-destruct mechanism and a post-failure emergency return system consisting of releasing the parachute by detecting changes in air pressure. After all, something that can float so far and so high in the sky for so long must be more expensive than an ordinary car. A leading theory at the moment is that it was meant to self-destruct, but that the destruction mechanism was faulty, which caused the balloon to drift further than intended. The Americans let it drift along to have a good look at it, and put a big hole in it before it headed out of their airspace. The hissy fit thrown by Chinese diplomats after that suggests it was indeed of Chinese origin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Codraroll said: A leading theory at the moment is that it was meant to self-destruct, but that the destruction mechanism was faulty, which caused the balloon to drift further than intended. Whether the self-destruct mechanism has failed remains to be seen. It's far more likely that it activated after the missile brought the balloon down - at least, it's how I'd design my spy balloon. Because Occam's Razor says it's a spy balloon, and that the Chinese MoFA is going through the motions while having an absolute giggle off camera. All relatively harmless as far as diplomatic outrages go, since the vehicle was unmanned, low-energy, and the US is a big country. Anyway, Proton with Elektro-L №4, launch successful, on its way to GSO. https://ria.ru/20230205/meteosputnik-1849841646.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve9728 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) Delete it just for my new year wish* Edited February 5, 2023 by steve9728 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 50 minutes ago, steve9728 said: Uh, wrong thread dude. Also as much as it's interesting to discuss the balloon the topic involves politics and probably isn't allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Video of today's Proton launch: https://t.me/space78125/1525 If you had a long lens, you could just very barely see the initial gulp of flame from the blast trenches... https://t.me/space78125/1528 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve9728 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Guys from Heilongjiang have seen its beautiful plume! https://weibo.com/3885052060/MrCK6fWEN#comment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The last of the Typhoons is decommissioned https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5810730 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 On 2/3/2023 at 11:16 PM, kerbiloid said: Absolutely unrelated to the today balloon show. https://en.topwar.ru/21525-vysotnyy-istrebitel-m-17-stratosfera.html I don't think I've ever seen this close-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 14 hours ago, DDE said: The last of the Typhoons is decommissioned https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5810730 Sad to hear this, interesting pieces of technology but to be fair they're totally impractical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 7 hours ago, DDE said: I don't think I've ever seen this close-up. To shoot the balloon from below instead of sticking into it. 6 hours ago, Minmus Taster said: Sad to hear this, interesting pieces of technology but to be fair they're totally impractical. Practical in a shallow haven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 8, 2023 Share Posted February 8, 2023 Cosmos-2499 disintegrates. 85 trackable frag at 1200 km. https://nplus1.ru/news/2023/02/07/2499-vse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDE Posted February 9, 2023 Share Posted February 9, 2023 Photos: https://t.me/space78125/1544 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Pressure loss in Progress MS-21 (the previous one). Ship's already sealed off; no further work was planned. https://t.me/roscosmos_gk/8419 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Seems that the pressure loss is in the cooling loop again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Just now, Beccab said: cooling loop Citation needed. The description matches a drilling incident as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerbiloid Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Every beauty blogger from ua is aware of details even before any details have been published. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 ANOTHER leak? I hate to sound conspiratorial but this isn't a coincidence. It's either gross misconduct while building the two craft or it's a sabotage. Also by a depressurization do they mean the cabins atmosphere was lost or are they talking about the loss of coolant in the tanks? What if one of those things just pops open completely next time? The crew would all die and the station would be lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) As it's currently told, the previous Progress MS-21 which had been loaded with disposables, is depressurized and (before or after is unknown) its hatch is closed.. No word about the coolant, no word about the cabin (also its "cabin" is a cargo compartment). Though, if it was the coolant, they would probably not seal the hatch. Edited February 11, 2023 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: Every beauty blogger from ua is aware of details even before any details have been published. 1 hour ago, kerbiloid said: As it's currently told, the previous Progress MS-21 which had been loaded with disposables, is depressurized and (before or after is unknown) its hatch is closed.. No word about the coolant, no word about the cabin (also its "cabin" is a cargo compartment). Though, if it was the coolant, they would probably not seal the hatch. And now it's confirmed It seems that after all, the "beauty blogger" is a long time reliable source of information on the Russian space program as she has been for many years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minmus Taster Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Did MS-22 lose that much coolant? What effect is that going to have on the craft? And how the heck does this keep happening without someone looking a little further into this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beccab Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Just now, Minmus Taster said: Did MS-22 lose that much coolant? What effect is that going to have on the craft? And how the heck does this keep happening without someone looking a little further into this? Micrometeorites have decided to have revenge on Roscosmos and will only hit the cooling systems on Soyuz service modules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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