DDE Posted February 25, 2024 Share Posted February 25, 2024 Fregat dive into the Pacific expected tomorrow at 18:43:09 GMT. https://t.me/kiam_ison_network/186 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 26, 2024 Share Posted February 26, 2024 17 hours ago, DDE said: Fregat dive into the Pacific expected tomorrow at 18:43:09 GMT. Spoiler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 The Moscow space club has made a projection of the share of non-military Roscosmos funding as compared to the federal budget. There's a pretty clear linear trend of minus 0,05 percentage points per year. By 2031 the civilian space program will have to reach financial self-sufficiency, or else. https://t.me/roscosmos_press/1843 A reminder that the older space budgets were planned with the mandate of "boots on the Moon by 2030". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 2 hours ago, DDE said: The Moscow space club has made a projection of the share of non-military Roscosmos funding as compared to the federal budget. There's a pretty clear linear trend of minus 0,05 percentage points per year. By 2031 the civilian space program will have to reach financial self-sufficiency, or else. https://t.me/roscosmos_press/1843 A reminder that the older space budgets were planned with the mandate of "boots on the Moon by 2030". South Africa was the first to give up its nuclear weapons voluntarily, perhaps Russia will be the first to give up crewed spaceflight capability voluntarily. Unless... Spoiler Almaz: The Russian Battle Station Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said: 4 hours ago, DDE said: The Moscow space club has made a projection of the share of non-military Roscosmos funding as compared to the federal budget. There's a pretty clear linear trend of minus 0,05 percentage points per year. By 2031 the civilian space program will have to reach financial self-sufficiency, or else. https://t.me/roscosmos_press/1843 A reminder that the older space budgets were planned with the mandate of "boots on the Moon by 2030". Expand South Africa was the first to give up its nuclear weapons voluntarily, perhaps Russia will be the first to give up crewed spaceflight capability voluntarily. To be fair, I keep returning to this idea. Overall space funding level are at the level of "having your cake and eating it too" and the manned program has been viciously draining on the overall budget. And as someone had written, 1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said: Unless... Hide contents Almaz: The Russian Battle Station single-module stations offer a lot of value for money, quickly reaching full operational status and not requiring extremely long-lasting components. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 If remove the cost of bureaucracy, an aluminium barrel with some not very top electronics and mechanics is pretty cheap. And the UDMH+NTO production is anyway required for ICBM. P.S. I mean the Orion ship, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 Borisov: Roscosmos to perform "more than 40" launches in 2024 https://ria.ru/20240219/roskosmos-1928185605.html 2023 - 19 2023 - 21 2022 - 24 You smell that? Do you smell that?... Budgeting pitch, fellas. Nothing else in the world smells like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted February 27, 2024 Share Posted February 27, 2024 13 minutes ago, DDE said: Borisov: Roscosmos to perform "more than 40" launches in 2024 https://ria.ru/20240219/roskosmos-1928185605.html 2023 - 19 2023 - 21 2022 - 24 You smell that? Do you smell that?... Budgeting pitch, fellas. Nothing else in the world smells like that. Wasn't the annual target usually around 50 before they stopped announcing them? But yeah, good luck finding extra money for manned spaceflight in the current budget situation. Not to mention the one in a couple of years. If there even is a budget by then, things will already have gone more favourably than many are expecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted February 28, 2024 Share Posted February 28, 2024 14 hours ago, kerbiloid said: If remove the cost of bureaucracy, an aluminium barrel with some not very top electronics and mechanics is pretty cheap. Reminds me of some article about Soviet history or something, where they intended to cut out a lot of the management portion to make the workers more effective. Maybe it wasn't Soviet history, I don't remember. 9 hours ago, DDE said: Borisov: Roscosmos to perform "more than 40" launches in 2024 https://ria.ru/20240219/roskosmos-1928185605.html 2023 - 19 2023 - 21 2022 - 24 You smell that? Do you smell that?... Budgeting pitch, fellas. Nothing else in the world smells like that. Meanwhile China released a blue book on its space program, aiming for 100 launches in 2024. I think they launched like 76 last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 28, 2024 Share Posted February 28, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, SunlitZelkova said: Soviet history or something, where they intended to cut out a lot of the management portion to make the workers more effective. It's easy to cut off more managers. If hire more motivators. *** Unrelated. Idk any actual plans, of course. But as there is a lot of billionaires to play ~1:100 roulette just for fun to visit a space hotel, and much more people, willingly hired to play another roulette on ground for much lower price than a spaceship, it would be not very hard to cut off excessive reinsurance, implemented in totally peaceful time, to decrease, say, the Soyuz launch cost by order of magnitude, with no additional risk. Edited February 28, 2024 by kerbiloid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted February 28, 2024 Share Posted February 28, 2024 54 minutes ago, kerbiloid said: It's easy to cut off more managers. If hire more motivators. *** Unrelated. Idk any actual plans, of course. But as there is a lot of billionaires to play ~1:100 roulette just for fun to visit a space hotel, and much more people, willingly hired to play another roulette on ground for much lower price than a spaceship, it would be not very hard to cut off excessive reinsurance, implemented in totally peaceful time, to decrease, say, the Soyuz launch cost by order of magnitude, with no additional risk. Somewhere, someone, right now, is probably designing a free fall roulette wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 28, 2024 Share Posted February 28, 2024 Standartization, mass manufacturing. The less construction changes for every flight, the easier to control the quality. The fewer excessive coordination on every nut and bolt, the shorter is the production time, the shorter is the coordination chain, the less money is spent on the coordinator chain salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 28, 2024 Share Posted February 28, 2024 On 2/27/2024 at 9:08 AM, DDE said: By 2031 the civilian space program will have to reach financial self-sufficiency, or else. And so I shall no longer have the right to cringe at the tired "artifacts of a more advanced civilization" quip. Spoiler "Ion", tempera and silver leaf on wood, 120 cm. Posted by the author an hour ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 The Riddick Chronicles are continued? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 More air leak troubles in Zvezda's aft compartment. https://ria.ru/20240228/mks-1930083061.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 Meteor-M launch from Vostochnyi Payload separation gif available https://t.me/roscosmos_gk/12554 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DDE Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 1 hour ago, tater said: Foreign = Iranian, in case anyone is womdering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Codraroll Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 6 hours ago, DDE said: Foreign = Iranian, in case anyone is womdering Well, at this point it's them and the North Koreans. Syria, Eritrea, and Nicaragua presumably don't have the funds for a space program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunlitZelkova Posted February 29, 2024 Share Posted February 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Codraroll said: Syria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Space_Agency Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthgently Posted March 1, 2024 Share Posted March 1, 2024 1 hour ago, SunlitZelkova said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Space_Agency Does it count if it is probably fully funded by Russia and the "space agency" is just cover for payment for other services and loyalty? Not singling out Russia here, as the US, the PRC, and many others definitely play this game also. So many minor government agencies and programs around the world, and even NGOs, are just geopolitical money laundering outfits at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 1, 2024 Share Posted March 1, 2024 (edited) Mozhaisky Academy's heads of departments of space comms and radio navigation arrested over authorising (and collecting) pay for 82 non-existent researchers. https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6536138 Edited March 1, 2024 by DDE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 1, 2024 Share Posted March 1, 2024 (edited) On 3/1/2024 at 1:24 AM, Codraroll said: Well, at this point it's them and the North Koreans. Syria, Eritrea, and Nicaragua presumably don't have the funds for a space program. Another US probe decided to join Luna-25 club, together with that one with human remains, lost a month ago. https://www-interfax-ru.translate.goog/world/948591?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp Happily, we understand, that it's just a chain of accidents, not a system problem. But technically yes, while Luna-25 was lost in midair (midvacuum), Nova has dived deeper and kissed the surface. Edited March 2, 2024 by kerbiloid The lunumber typo is corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codraroll Posted March 1, 2024 Share Posted March 1, 2024 7 hours ago, kerbiloid said: Another US probe decided to join Luna-27 club, together with that one with human remains, lost a month ago. https://www-interfax-ru.translate.goog/world/948591?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=ru&_x_tr_pto=wapp Happily, we understand, that it's just a chain of accidents, not a system problem. But technically yes, while Luna-27 was lost in midair (midvacuum), Nova has dived deeper and kissed the surface. Is this pathetic attempt at whataboutism in any way relevant to the topic at hand, which is the state of the Russian space agency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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