DDE Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 9 hours ago, MaverickSawyer said: Yeah, well, that's the Soviets during the Cold War, back when they could easily control the news of a failure, and when said failure wasn't so much of an issue. It's not so easy with China... Is it? If anything, the last few years of “Emperor Xi” are said to have seen a considerable tightening of the Party’s already all-reaching grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, DDE said: Is it? If anything, the last few years of “Emperor Xi” are said to have seen a considerable tightening of the Party’s already all-reaching grip. True, but it's still not nearly as strict as it used to be, both in China and in the USSR. A failed launch today, even in China, is a rather public event, largely due to the Internet. Even 30 years ago, a failed launch could go unnoticed by outside parties for days, weeks, or even months, and even then, it'd be a deeply classified discovery at the NRO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, MaverickSawyer said: A failed launch today, even in China, is a rather public event, largely due to the Internet. Except for Internet Maintenance Day, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MaverickSawyer said: A failed launch today, even in China, is a rather public event, largely due to the Internet Those guys will ban letters when they need to. Not only that, but don’t underestimate how differently the public in authoritarian states reacts to government goof-ups. That is, circles the wagons and attacks the critics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Trust me, Chinese people aint that stupid. There is always VPN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Xd the great said: There is always VPN. ... And yet, every single report on Chinese spaceflight has always been through Weibo ? VPN may exist, but people don't bother if it's cumbersome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Xd the great said: Trust me, Chinese people aint that stupid. There is always VPN. Oh, that doesn’t necessarily change things. When you multiply the percentages of those interested in the subject, those willing to bother with VPN, and those favouring alternative narratives over official ones, you end up with a very slim audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xd the great Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 2 hours ago, DDE said: Oh, that doesn’t necessarily change things. When you multiply the percentages of those interested in the subject, those willing to bother with VPN, and those favouring alternative narratives over official ones, you end up with a very slim audience. Well, a slim audience in 1.3 billion people is a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Xd the great said: a slim audience in 1.3 billion people is a lot. You'd have to be close to the launch site as well - which is more like North Dakota than California or North East US : sparsely populated, and highly "rural". Though I'd guess that the chinese media would make the news. It doesn't make for a bad news unless it has serious effects (like falling on the populous region of the eastern coast of China, then that'd be difficult to deny.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDE Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 11 hours ago, Xd the great said: Well, a slim audience in 1.3 billion people is a lot. Some in this thread seem to think it’s about reporting, whereas I’m discussing domestic public perception. Wherein a tiny minority is a tiny minority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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insert_name Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Have they reported on what the booster hit yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kerbiloid Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Spoiler 13 hours ago, insert_name said: Have they reported on what the booster hit yet? Like you knew that village... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liweih Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 https://m.weibo.cn/5386897742/4349481921419447 Official news said the rover had move 163m by now and it reached its design lifetime. Shame there is no any new photo yet. Although the authority says popularization of science is vital, they actually willing to do little thing on it. A possible answer why the rover move so little is that the control team choose to keep the rover safe until it reach its lifetime, which guarantee a successful mission announcement can be told on the news, then after that they can do some real running and science. A balance between politics and science. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 The One Space launch failed. https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/03/maiden-launch-of-onespace-os-m-rocket-fails/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 Here's a vid (starts to corkscrew): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaverickSawyer Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Let's hope they got some good telemetry to chase the failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrandedonEarth Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I assume it's liquid fueled? Did they neglect to put anti-slosh baffles in the second stage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.50calBMG Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Looks like it's solid fuelled to me. Liquids don't smoke like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 @.50calBMG is right. It's a 3 stage solid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.50calBMG Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Now that I've seen what this rocket looks like, I'm gonna hazard a guess at a fin failure on the second stage. Then again, no way I'm right about something twice in a row... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tater Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 17 minutes ago, .50calBMG said: Now that I've seen what this rocket looks like, I'm gonna hazard a guess at a fin failure on the second stage. Then again, no way I'm right about something twice in a row... It did start corkscrewing. Seems like a reasonable cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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