Chinese location topic and it's importance

[BjM]

I have looked at this post;

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The topic was about some chinese localization that had some sexist phrase. Looks like squad changed it and some players got angry about it. IMHO it's an important discussion about the game. If the company goes with some unapropriate text I will not buy anything anymore from then, like the upcoming expansion, but if they are fixing it despite the angry reviews against, wich seems to be the case, it's very good points for them and I stand up for this.

I think the KSP discussion section of the forum is the place to discuss this kind of thing too. If it's not there should be somewere to discuss. There is a topic for more than a week discussing the EULA in this section, talk about what the company do is important.

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Edited October 10, 2017 by Snark
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[Snark]

Sorry folks, had to prune/redact content here, and the topic is locked.  (Also, moved it to Kerbal Network, since it's largely a discussion about discussions rather than about KSP itself.)

2 hours ago, BjM said:

I think the KSP discussion section of the forum is the place to discuss this kind of thing too. If it's not there should be somewere to discuss. There is a topic for more than a week discussing the EULA in this section, talk about what the company do is important.

Thank you for your concern.

However, please understand that there are some topics which are simply unsuitable for the forums, because they have historically proven to be so volatile that it's simply not possible to have a discussion about them without it erupting into spectacular flamewars where everyone loses.  That's why we have rules against discussing politics, religion, etc. on this forum.

In the current case, the difficulty is even worse, because the topic under discussion is about a different language that the overwhelming majority of the forum readers can't read.  This means a discussion here would be largely among people working off second-hand hearsay, and arguing about matters they don't actually know first-hand.  That's a recipe for unproductive unpleasantness.

That doesn't mean that anyone at Squad or on the moderator staff is being cavalier or dimissive about anything.  Issues come up, relevant people become aware, matters get looked into-- it happens all the time, on a variety of topics.  Just because some of those topics may be deemed unsuitable for public discussion in the forum here doesn't mean that they're being ignored.

On a closing note:  It's clear you meant well here, but please understand that it is not appropriate to publicly discuss or dispute moderator action.  From the forum rules:

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I understand that this may be frustrating to you, but if you think a moment, I hope you'll see why it has to be this way:  everyone whom we ever need to take action on is going to disagree with our action.  (Naturally, or they wouldn't have done/said what they did in the first place!)  If it was acceptable to take public issue with it, everything would simply devolve into endless unproductive bickering all the time, it would become impossible for moderators to do their jobs, and everyone would lose.

Also, please do not attempt to circumvent moderator actions.  If a topic is locked, it's locked for a reason, and it's not okay to work around it by posting another thread to take up the discussion.

We do value everyone's opinion, nor do we moderators claim to be infallible; we're human, we can make mistakes like anyone else.  So of course you're welcome to discuss (even dispute) any of our actions.  But it's never okay to do so publicly, per 3.3 above.  Instead, please reach out privately to the moderator with whom you have an issue.  Or, if you feel that you can't resolve the matter with that moderator, you can contact the moderator's supervisor, instead (the chain of command is publicly posted).

(For example, if we've locked a topic you think shouldn't be locked:  don't just evade the lock by posting a new thread-- instead, contact us privately and try to persuade us to unlock it again.  We'll listen.  Maybe you'll succeed in convincing us, in which case, good for you!  Or maybe you won't, and our decision will stand, in which case we respectfully ask that you abide by that decision, even though you may disagree with it.)

Thank you for your understanding.

[Vanamonde]

The original post was vague, and it sounded like an argument within some other forum was going to be re-hashed here, which is why I closed the thread. The appropriate people have since been made aware of the actual issue (about which I know nothing since I don't speak/read Chinese), but again, re-hashing it and second-guessing the situation here serves no purpose.