NSEP Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) What should we name the category of spacecraft that are like the BFS. The BFS will without a doubt have competitors/derivatives/related vehicles in the future with simulair capabilities (full reusabillity, interplanetary transport, etc) if it becomes succesfull. What should we name this new category of spacecraft? Edited March 23, 2018 by NSEP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theysen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) ICAO introduced „super“ when the A380 hit the market as identifier for ATC where a B747 or 777 was „heavy“ until then. Let’s just use super heavy lift vehicle and were done. Edited March 23, 2018 by Theysen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) BFR → HMR (Heavy Metal RockIt) BFS → ... stays BFS. (boat of Future Ship) On 3/23/2018 at 9:42 AM, Theysen said: ICAO introduced „super“ when the A380 hit the market as identifier for ATC where a B747 or 777 was „heavy“ until then. Expand It's very nice when people have an important, significant job. Edited March 23, 2018 by kerbiloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSEP Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 9:42 AM, Theysen said: ICAO introduced „super“ when the A380 hit the market as identifier for ATC where a B747 or 777 was „heavy“ until then. Let’s just use super heavy lift vehicle and were done. Expand Well, they are more than just super heavy lift vehicles, like the Saturn V Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theysen Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) On 3/23/2018 at 9:58 AM, kerbiloid said: BFR → HMR (Heavy Metal RockIt) BFS → ... stays BFS. (boat of Future Ship) It's very nice when people have an important, significant job. Expand What does that mean? at least America still uses a lot of those identifiers when pilots call the controller. You don’t want to be cleared for approach behind a 380 when you’re in a little Cessna and the controller - for what ever reason didn’t double check on his strip - , and America has a lot of the latter (Cessna, general aviation) in busy airspaces. agreed to the „more than just“ lifting vehicle like saturn, but differing by payload mass to wherever worked before, too. Edited March 23, 2018 by Theysen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 10:50 AM, Theysen said: What does that mean? Expand "Not just "heavy", let it be "supah"!" Probably a whole team of people were brainstorming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 SHLV is quite generic. I think "SHLV" and "SSTO" is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Megatonal Orbigenic Ascent Vehical (mother of all ascent vehicals) Right now the most i can place in ''virtual' earth orbit is 3.8 MT. 1 is not to bad and i could probably do RTLS on some of the lower stages. I need a bigger launch pad and VAB. Screw the name stuff, i wanna see action. Everyone is talking about gateways in space such as this weeks space fantasy (care of bruno this time). Lets see some of these hevy lift guys start building gateways and stop talking about them. If i want graphics about space fantasies i can make them myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Next Generation Launch Vehicles? Megalaunchers? Whatever Bezos, Musk etc. Decide To Call Them? Personally, I not much in favour of option 3. WBMEDTCT is a lousy acronym. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Something that implies the notion of integrating an upper stage and a spaceship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YNM Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 1:21 PM, sevenperforce said: Something that implies the notion of integrating an upper stage and a spaceship. Expand SSTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canopus Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 2:36 PM, YNM said: SSTO. Expand It‘s not an SSTO though. And upper stage already implies that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Phil Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Define previous rocket generations with numbers, and then just give this one a new number. Like: Gen 0: Small scale rockets. Goddard/VfR Gen 1: First missiles. V-2, Hermes, Redstone. Gen 2: ICBMs. R-7, Atlas, Titan And so on until you reach the new rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ment18 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Mass Market Reusable Launch Vehicles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) On 3/23/2018 at 12:52 PM, PB666 said: Megatonal Orbigenic Ascent Vehical (mother of all ascent vehicals) Expand NTM. (Next Time - Million). On 3/23/2018 at 12:43 PM, YNM said: SHLV is quite generic. Expand Super-Hype Launch Vehicle. Uses hype as main propellant. Edited March 23, 2018 by kerbiloid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sevenperforce Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 What about: Spacecraft (a reusable manned vehicle which depends on an expendable/separate module for its propulsion) Spacetug (a reusable propulsion module for moving spacecraft around) Spaceship (a reusable manned vehicle with its own reusable onboard propulsion module) That's simple, right? So we've been in the age of spacecraft so far, and we are closing in on the age of spaceships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxwellsDemon Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 Super-Hyper-Colossal-tastic! I think it all matters who's coming up with the names. A government agency will give it a string of letters unpronounceable as an acronym; if it's up to private industry, and marketing focus groups start coming up with the names, they'll start sounding like car model names or prescription drug names.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 like Orbitublion or orbitexus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSK Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) It's a wee bit snarky but how about Evolved Non-Expendable Launch Vehicles? And if all else fails, just call them Bob. Bob is a good name for almost anything. Edited March 23, 2018 by KSK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kerbiloid Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 MyRocket1 MySpaceship1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchz95 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 I'm reminded of the HMS Dreadnought, which revolutionized naval battleships to the point that all prior battleships were referred to as "pre-dreadnoughts". If Elon does name the first BFR Heart of Gold, perhaps rockets will be divided into pre-Gold and post-Gold vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSEP Posted March 23, 2018 Author Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 2:47 PM, Bill Phil said: Define previous rocket generations with numbers, and then just give this one a new number. Like: Gen 0: Small scale rockets. Goddard/VfR Gen 1: First missiles. V-2, Hermes, Redstone. Gen 2: ICBMs. R-7, Atlas, Titan And so on until you reach the new rockets. Expand Fireworks and model rockets should be in Gen Minus (Gen Minus sounds cool right?) Gen 3: First Dedicated Orbital Launch Vehicles. Saturn IB, Atlas II>, Proton, Et Cetera Gen 4: Cryogenic Orbital Launch Vehicles. Delta-IV, SLS, Vulcan, New Glenn Gen 5: Multipurpose Orbital Launch Vehicles and Spacecraft. Space Shuttle, BFR, New Armstrong On 3/23/2018 at 5:33 PM, Mitchz95 said: I'm reminded of the HMS Dreadnought, which revolutionized naval battleships to the point that all prior battleships were referred to as "pre-dreadnoughts". If Elon does name the first BFR Heart of Gold, perhaps rockets will be divided into pre-Gold and post-Gold vehicles. Expand That sounds awesome! BFR, the dreadnaught of space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB666 Posted March 23, 2018 Share Posted March 23, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 6:01 PM, NSEP said: Fireworks and model rockets should be in Gen Minus (Gen Minus sounds cool right?) Gen 3: First Dedicated Orbital Launch Vehicles. Saturn IB, Atlas II>, Proton, Et Cetera Gen 4: Cryogenic Orbital Launch Vehicles. Delta-IV, SLS, Vulcan, New Glenn Gen 5: Multipurpose Orbital Launch Vehicles and Spacecraft. Space Shuttle, BFR, New Armstrong That sounds awesome! BFR, the dreadnaught of space Expand Dreadnaughts became very well thought of because of a fluke in history, The great war (WWI) was supposed to be the war that ended all wars, and the Dread naught was decommisioned after 14 years of use, being on the winning side but hardly a cause for victory. By second 'great' war it would have been about the same size as a heavy cruiser. But even then the high wide profile of battleships made them prime targets for attack from above and below. Either one was crippling. The Aircraft carrier centered fleet as been a mainstay of major Navies since. Even the biggest heavy hulled mega aircraft carrier produced during WWII was sunk during its sea-trials. And basically the size of ACC has not significantly increased since 1960 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Enterprise_(CVN-65), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier. If you want something with sustained power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Soviet Tank Posted April 6, 2018 Share Posted April 6, 2018 I vote "Big Daddies" or "Meaty Boys". I mean, look at the size of those rockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NSEP Posted April 6, 2018 Author Share Posted April 6, 2018 On 3/23/2018 at 3:56 PM, kerbiloid said: MyRocket1 MySpaceship1 Expand Part of me thinks you are an actual kerbal. On 4/6/2018 at 8:02 PM, A Soviet Tank said: I vote "Big Daddies" or "Meaty Boys". I mean, look at the size of those rockets. Expand WoooOO000ooww. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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