[1.12.x] BDArmory Continued v1.3.5 beta [1/29/2022] + Vessel Mover, Camera Tools, BDMk22, Destruction Effects, Burn Together

[jrodriguez]

On 11/25/2018 at 7:34 PM, Hotdiggitydog said:

But would it not be easier and look cleaner to have it as one part? Especially because it is based off of real life ordnance.

 

13 minutes ago, Cassel said:

I like that, I would also like more space-weapons.

 

3 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

Yeah, me too. Some type of KKV.

BDArmory is just a military framework. I don't think we will add any more weapons to the mod. The idea is that other modders can create their weapons using the functionally that BDA provides to support this.

Usually when a new feature is implemented, we add a new part to show how it works and how the cfg looks like.

[Xd the great]

On 11/24/2018 at 4:04 AM, Hotdiggitydog said:

I don't know if you guys are still taking ideas for additions to this awesome mod, but I have found a weapon that might be of interest for the next update.

It's called the AGM-12, a fast joystick controlled air-to-ground missile from the Vietnam War.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-12_Bullpup

It seems perfect, as it would be its own craft with a remote control, rocket engine, and winglets that you could pilot yourself until it hits the ground. Just a suggestion if you are looking for more ideas.

How is this different from a craft with no weapons manager?

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Could a fix be implemented for weapons killing the host craft? it seems to be related to the minimum engagement distance, possibly have the engagement distance start having an effect a few seconds after launch or make it configurable to not arm until after ex amount of time in the Cfgs.

[Hotdiggitydog]

8 hours ago, Xd the great said:

How is this different from a craft with no weapons manager?

Not sure I understand the question you are asking.

 

9 hours ago, jrodriguez said:

 

 

BDArmory is just a military framework. I don't think we will add any more weapons to the mod. The idea is that other modders can create their weapons using the functionally that BDA provides to support this.

Usually when a new feature is implemented, we add a new part to show how it works and how the cfg looks like.

Well I guess if anybody wanted to make it they could, but wouldn't it be a new concept you guys could toy with? The two realms of aircraft ordnance that BD Armory has yet to try out are TV-guided weapons (not sure if that is even possible in KSP), and Radio-Guided Missiles. There are plenty of weapons that use those 2 guidance concepts, and I'm am guessing that I am not the only user that would like to see them implemented by somebody. Now, I am not a mod maker, I have no idea how long you guys work on models and code, but maybe the reason nobody else has tried to implement them is that they are a little too complicated of something. Maybe if you guys tried your hand at one or even just made some notes for other mod developers, we might see some great new and fun designs. From just looking at it from the surface as a layman, it would seem like it wouldn't be too hard to implement for an experienced modder, as it would be its own self-contained craft just like those mods that add the 1-piece fighter jets. The TV-guided bombs on the other hand seem like a big challenge to get the camera on the nose to display on screen (or maybe not, I don't really know), so maybe that idea isn't so good. I've played with BD Armory in different stages of development since basically it started, and have loved the new additions to the mod it has gotten from updates and add-ons, but it seems recently many modders who made add-ons to BD, especially North Kerbin Dynamics, have stopped updating. Now it seems like BD Continued is the only reliably updated mod for ordnance and weapons for KSP right now. So, if you ever exhaust your pool of new features and things to the mod, new weapons for the base mod would be rally cool to have. These are just some ideas that you might use eventually.

Edited November 28, 2018 by Hotdiggitydog

[Xd the great]

28 minutes ago, Hotdiggitydog said:

Not sure I understand the question you are asking.

 

Well I guess if anybody wanted to make it they could, but wouldn't it be a new concept you guys could toy with? The two realms of aircraft ordnance that BD Armory has yet to try out are TV-guided weapons (not sure if that is even possible in KSP), and Radio-Guided Missiles. 

Yes, radio guided missiles are excellent for aadditional development, TVs ones are too, but how are they dirrerent from manually guiding a craft/missile onto the ground?

[Hotdiggitydog]

19 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

Yes, radio guided missiles are excellent for aadditional development, TVs ones are too, but how are they dirrerent from manually guiding a craft/missile onto the ground?

Well I guess they are not much different, but they would look better than just several parts slapped together, probably be better performing, and it would be less finicky than making a missile with those nose warheads, as those never seem to work for me.

[Sidestrafe2462]

18 hours ago, Xd the great said:

How do the setting look like?

Don't know, I forgot and can't find it again. Might have been in the universal ammo cfg.

 

12 hours ago, Xd the great said:

Yeah, me too. Some type of KKV.

Also some smaller large caliber guns, like a bofors or something similar. 

[Cassel]

On 11/28/2018 at 2:48 PM, jrodriguez said:

BDArmory is just a military framework. I don't think we will add any more weapons to the mod. The idea is that other modders can create their weapons using the functionally that BDA provides to support this.

Usually when a new feature is implemented, we add a new part to show how it works and how the cfg looks like.

I would want to suggest few things.

Self-reloading single-rocket-launcher something that can look like this one below. In addition to the launcher, there would also be a part with additional rockets, just like we have ammo containers.

 

A military version of the battery for powering the laser. Maybe even two versions, one large for ships and ground vehicles, and the other version suspended for airplanes.

Military version of tracks or wheels. Covering the standard wheels with armor is problematic, they are also too weak, have a low capacity, and do not match the design of the tank or combat vehicle.

Military version of cargo and service bay. The standard ones are good for airplanes, but there is no cargo bay for land vehicles.
Some armored capsule for vehicles with windows in such places that it could be used in the construction of a tank or armored vehicle.

 

 

[SuicidalInsanity]

On 11/22/2018 at 11:56 AM, jrodriguez said:

Currently, no. But it is something that all of us would like to see

Did some poking around in the code, not too difficult.

Added Weapon Group functionality - Weapons can be assigned to user-defined weapon groups (in this case "Turrets") in the VAB/SPH, that can then be accessed both manually and by the AI like any other weapon.
I can get a PR with the code up tomorrow.

[Xd the great]

22 hours ago, Cassel said:

I would want to suggest few things.

Self-reloading single-rocket-launcher something that can look like this one below. In addition to the launcher, there would also be a part with additional rockets, just like we have ammo containers.

The ammo can be done with a self made box containing the relevant rockets.

I agree that they should add a demo part for the reloading missile module

[Cassel]

48 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

The ammo can be done with a self made box containing the relevant rockets.

I agree that they should add a demo part for the reloading missile module

I am speaking from user perspective not from perspective of person who wants to create add-on based on BDA.

[jrodriguez]

2 hours ago, SuicidalInsanity said:

Did some poking around in the code, not too difficult.

Added Weapon Group functionality - Weapons can be assigned to user-defined weapon groups (in this case "Turrets") in the VAB/SPH, that can then be accessed both manually and by the AI like any other weapon.
I can get a PR with the code up tomorrow.

@SuicidalInsanity that sounds very interesting. I will send you a PM about it.

[AReallySadPerson]

How do I switch ammo types?

[Xd the great]

1 hour ago, AReallySadPerson said:

How do I switch ammo types?

Use the new universal ammo box, right click on it in the VAB/SPH, select the required ammo.

[AReallySadPerson]

12 minutes ago, Xd the great said:

Use the new universal ammo box, right click on it in the VAB/SPH, select the required ammo.

I’ve done this, but the weapon (m230) I’m attempting to use won’t fire 

[Xd the great]

1 hour ago, AReallySadPerson said:

I’ve done this, but the weapon (m230) I’m attempting to use won’t fire 

1. Select the 30mm ammo, i think it is 30x173mm, double check in the info of the m230 tab in VAB.

2. Check the engagement settings, and min/max engagement range. And also the turret settings.

3. Try manual firing. Check for obstructions in the craft.

4. Try the other 30mm ammo box.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Xd the great

[Xd the great]

How is flaking supposed to work in bdac? Auto explode at a proximity?

[Xd the great]

3 hours ago, Xd the great said:

How is flaking supposed to work in bdac? Auto explode at a proximity?

Yeah, i got the flaking. But no auto timing and explosion.

[Vegatoxi]

On 10/20/2018 at 3:58 AM, Xd the great said:

Install module manager and PRE.

It helps. Thank you.

[Hojoz]

I just found out about the orbital and clamped/unclamped buttons in the AI. Can someone explain to me what these functions do? 

[XOC2008]

1 hour ago, Hojoz said:

I just found out about the orbital and clamped/unclamped buttons in the AI. Can someone explain to me what these functions do? 

Orbit changes the orbit direction over a target point once the AI reaches destination/altitude. You can go clockwise or counter clockwise. (Or port or starboard, I forget how its labeled.) Great for AC-130 type planes.

Clamped/unclamped just gives you normal/higher options like raising the flight ceiling, top speed, etc.

[Hodo]

So I am trying to figure out how the cruise missiles work.  They dont seem to function correctly for me. 

 

Sorry hit submit before I was done typing...

 

But when I launch a cruise missile from an aircraft, like the air launched cruise missile and I have the targeting pod lasing the target and the missile just fires its engine and falls away and goes straight to the ground.. well more at a 45deg angle. 

Edited December 7, 2018 by Hodo

[Xd the great]

2 hours ago, Hodo said:

So I am trying to figure out how the cruise missiles work.  They dont seem to function correctly for me. 

 

Sorry hit submit before I was done typing...

 

But when I launch a cruise missile from an aircraft, like the air launched cruise missile and I have the targeting pod lasing the target and the missile just fires its engine and falls away and goes straight to the ground.. well more at a 45deg angle. 

You need it to lock onto a gps target. Manually. Lock onto the target with laser and select send to gps. Then select the target from gps coordinator, and fire the missile.

Edited December 8, 2018 by Xd the great

[Hodo]

Thank you.. I will test it out tonight.

[Xd the great]

Also, @jrodriguez will it be possible to make modular missile guidance a torpedo? Making the cruise height capable of being negative...