Kerbal Space Program Update 1.5 Grand Discussion thread

[MikeO89]

12 hours ago, <noname> said:

MODULE
    {
        name = ModuleWheelSuspension
        baseModuleIndex = 0
        suspensionTransformName = piston
        suspensionColliderName = piston_collider
        
        suspensionDistance = 0.95
        suspensionOffset = -0.95        
        maximumLoad = 40.0
        targetPosition = 1.0            
        springRatio = 6
        damperRatio = 1.5
        boostRatio = 0.7

Stock settings for LT-2. I already tried to mess with those and did not have a good experience. Don't know what to do with those setting to make the legs fixed so there is no suspension.

[shdwlrd]

4 hours ago, MikeO89 said:

Stock settings for LT-2. I already tried to mess with those and did not have a good experience. Don't know what to do with those setting to make the legs fixed so there is no suspension.

Change the spring and damper ratios to zero to make them fixed. 

[Guest]

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Edited March 29, 2020 by Guest

[Shadowmage]

18 hours ago, MikeO89 said:

Stock settings for LT-2. I already tried to mess with those and did not have a good experience. Don't know what to do with those setting to make the legs fixed so there is no suspension

AFAIK Unity WheelColliders do not function without suspension.  They need the spring/damper physics to provide data to the rest of the simulation code.

All that will happen if you set 'spring' to zero is that it will compress all of the way, and end up resting on whatever colliders are present in the rest of the model.

[juanml82]

On 10/19/2018 at 8:58 AM, Johnny Wishbone said:

First, I'm happy to report that 1.5.1 has addressed the aero issues I was having. My planes actually glide again as they did in previous releases

I think it has less drag then previous versions. I've tried an MK3 spaceplane which uses Nertea's Cutlass engines from NF Aeronautics and the old patch to make it use LH2 instead of liquid fuel. The plane used to work ok in 1.4, in 1.5.1 it can go fast enough during ascend to blow the nose due overheating (not complaining though)

Edited October 22, 2018 by juanml82

[MikeO89]

7 hours ago, Shadowmage said:

AFAIK Unity WheelColliders do not function without suspension.  They need the spring/damper physics to provide data to the rest of the simulation code.

All that will happen if you set 'spring' to zero is that it will compress all of the way, and end up resting on whatever colliders are present in the rest of the model.

Correct. I had tried setting it to 0,0 long ago and the results were as you said. I also agree that there is currently no way (that I'm aware of) to make those legs fixed. Or at least, no one has posted a successful cfg that did it and I have not been able to. I'm surprised this is not a big deal. Apparently I'm one of the few who hate the landing bounce so much, they even bring it up. I'm still stymied why the FASA LEM legs behave the way they do with no bounce. Comparing the settings, they are structured quite different and I don't know how to translate one to the other.

Edited October 22, 2018 by MikeO89

[Shadowmage]

11 minutes ago, MikeO89 said:

Correct. I had tried setting it to 0,0 long ago and did as you said. I also agree that there is currently no way (that I'm aware of) to make those legs fixed. Or at least, on one has posted a successful cfg that did it and I have not been able to. I'm surprised this is not a big deal.

I actually include a 'rigid suspension' option for landing legs if you use KSPWheel + the (unsupported) stock part conversion patch.  Basically turns the off the suspension and replaces it with standard colliders, while still allowing for animated retract/deploy.

https://github.com/shadowmage45/KerbalFoundries2/tree/master/KerbalFoundries-Patches/Stock

(the patches are 'unsupported' as I've never had a chance to go over them for balance reasons; many of the 'max load' ratings/etc need to be adjusted; they are functional though and seem to work aside from balance issues)

 

[Hummingbird Aerospace]

wait... w0t?

The parts look nice, i'm just worried how they will look along the not-revamped parts.

Its just that i am so used to the old parts. Maybe in the future there will be a way to change texture packs, kind of like Minecraft. 

 

[Kerbart]

4 minutes ago, Hummingbird Aerospace said:

wait... w0t?

The parts look nice, i'm just worried how they will look along the not-revamped parts.

Its just that i am so used to the old parts. Maybe in the future there will be a way to change texture packs, kind of like Minecraft. 

This is not the first update with revamped parts and I doubt it will be the last. I suspect that the emphasis on the next updates (those that are expected to have a 3-month release schedule) is to have all parts revamped.

I’m not speaking with any authority or source here, this is merely speculation but I doubt Squad is happy with a mix of old-style and new-style parts, and it makes a good, visible element on top of bug fixes.

[Hummingbird Aerospace]

@Kerbart Maybe it's just me paranoid of change. Does anyone else have similar opinions?

Oh yeah, we also really need something like a Duna tutorial or a mk1 payload bay. Maybe some sort of environmental visual enhancements mod will even be incorporated in! The new parts still look cool, they just may take a little adjusting to.

Edited October 22, 2018 by Hummingbird Aerospace

[MikeO89]

20 minutes ago, Hummingbird Aerospace said:

@Kerbart Maybe it's just me paranoid of change. Does anyone else have similar opinions?

I am paranoid of change in this game. For me personally, things have been going down hill since version 1.3.1. I would still be playing that version except for I can't play the craft I build with it cause too many parts are no longer compatible.  After 1.3.1, they changed one of the single most important things to me, the RCS thruster plume. It was a big deal for me as sometimes changing a small thing can totally change the game experience (like when they changed the RCS thruster and retro rocket sounds after 1.4.3). Progress is a "B" for this game, confounded with, if you use mods. It's why I save my versions, I never know what to expect.

Edited October 22, 2018 by MikeO89

[Hummingbird Aerospace]

If I have a ship with pre-1.5 part textures, will they work?

[klgraham1013]

33 minutes ago, Hummingbird Aerospace said:

If I have a ship with pre-1.5 part textures, will they work?

Yes.

[Hummingbird Aerospace]

3 hours ago, klgraham1013 said:

Yes.

Will it retain it's original textures?

Thanks for the response.

[StrandedonEarth]

1 hour ago, Hummingbird Aerospace said:

Will it retain it's original textures?

Thanks for the response.

Yes, it should, AFAIK. I haven’t tested that yet, but old parts are supposed to be deprecated and hidden, but still there for crafts that use them. I believe that it’s the same for textures

[AdamFra]

Just saying, I like the 1.4 Spacesuit. It looked more technical. If possible, could we have a 1.4 spacesuit option?

Edited October 27, 2018 by AdamFra

[Cataclism]

I´m having a lot of fun with the new "paintings", specially the "dark" option on the fuel tanks. Man, those are cool!
-The changes on the trails on the Map Screen are pretty cool, as well.
-And now Valentina is happy at the mais screen! :-D
-I can´t say the new faces are beautiful, but personally I like them most than the previous "all-the-same".
-In my opinion, both the new and the old suits are very nice, but I´m VERY happy that the "original four" kerbonauts can actually dress their orange suit on atmospheric EVA.
...........
-Finally, besides all the good changes (that didn´t seem to slow down the game on my notepad), the other good part on these updates is that, for relative new players like me (I´ve started in Kerbal only in july/18), if one filters by "last update" the mod on the mais page, is easy to get to know other cool mods just as they maintainers uptdate them.

Thank you Squad and thank you modders!

[Mr. Gonk]

Hi,

Could someone send over images of the new interior of the Mk 1 Command Pod, please?

I've been looking in vain all over the web for decent reference images.

I'm modelling the interior in blender. I've already made the exterior:

 

[Burning Kan]

@Mr. Gonk WWWOOWWW,  a M.A.S version is ok?

will this be download -able or is it fanwork?

 

Edited October 29, 2018 by Burning Kan

[Mr. Gonk]

6 hours ago, Burning Kan said:

@Mr. Gonk WWWOOWWW,  a M.A.S version is ok?

will this be download -able or is it fanwork?

 

This version is from a mod, I believe. I'd rather have references of the stock IVA. Thank you, though. I love the enthusiasm!

[Burning Kan]

@Mr. Gonkwill this be useable in game??? in far future??

[Mr. Gonk]

1 hour ago, Burning Kan said:

@Mr. Gonkwill this be useable in game??? in far future??

neh. I'm building these assets for standalone animated cinematics of my own. I'm not affiliated with squad in any way. The images I embedded took half an hour each to render their reflections to the quality that you see. I can't imagine the game running at 2frames per hour. 

Edited October 30, 2018 by Mr. Gonk

[Burning Kan]

all clear ,thx

thought that would not run good on a normal system,but never say never maybe in ten years from now?

[Mr. Gonk]

48 minutes ago, Burning Kan said:

all clear ,thx

thought that would not run good on a normal system,but never say never maybe in ten years from now?

YEAAA BWOIIIIIIIII

[Stewcumber]

Has anyone else experienced much longer load times since the update? I've been building a ship of 100 parts and it will take a good 2 minutes loading up the craft, and then back into the SPH, and also back to the KSC overview and even back to the main menu. It also got worse the longer I played. 

I only have one active ship and no mods so something has gone wrong somewhere! 

Previously it was fine, only a few seconds to load anything. I have a 4770k overclocked and 8GB RAM

Edited November 1, 2018 by Stewcumber