sturmhauke Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Entropian, you are insane, I love it! Although you already seem to be seriously pushing the limit just to get to the Moon, I don't know what you're going to do for Duna and still keep stock parts. MUN STS-2-4: Looks good! I haven't made all the RSS badges yet, so here's the standard badge for now. I'll post the new one later today when I get a chance. For MUN STS-5-7, to be honest I don't know how to calculate what the RSS orbits vs. stock orbits should be. I would like the RSS orbits to be proportionally as difficult as the stock ones. I'll say you can use your best judgement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, sturmhauke said: I don't know what you're going to do for Duna Mars and still keep stock parts. Fixed it. I think I'm probably going to do a 2-shuttle mission with 1 in orbit to refuel and another one that lands and docks to the orbiter one. Probably I'll visit Phobos and Deimos to refuel as well. For the orbit problem, I think I'll just pack a bunch of extra dV to make sure that it can go to pretty much any orbit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojjy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Well done, @Entropian, I can't imagine trying to use stock parts in a real solar system since they're so under-powered. This challenge is super fun, so I've been cranking out missions very quickly: here's my STS-4 (commander) rescue mission. Once again, I underestimated how much deltaV I would need to change my inclination, and despite filling my shuttle to the brim with fuel, I barely managed de-orbit after completing the mission. Also, while I tried to realistically transfer the crew between shuttles by using ladders which would connect the two ships, I forgot to add RCS thrusters, so aligning the ships in order to allow for this transfer was impossible. I ended up settling on just using the kerbal's jetpacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 9, 2020 Author Share Posted September 9, 2020 @Wojjy, nice work on STS-3 and STS-4/4R. I'm excited to see what else you have come up with, Commander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Wojjy said: Well done, @Entropian, I can't imagine trying to use stock parts in a real solar system since they're so under-powered. Thanks! It's actually pretty fun once you get the hang of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 11, 2020 Author Share Posted September 11, 2020 @Entropian, I got your RSS Mun STS-2-4 badge, and the next one is ready when you complete the mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 11, 2020 Share Posted September 11, 2020 Great, thanks! I'll probably do the LOP-G thing this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 @sturmhauke, I finished Moon STS-5-7. I ended up using the same lifter that I used for Moon STS-1. Liftoff: Orbit: TLI and core sep: TLI complete: Capturing: Payload deployment: Final orbit: Escape burn: NERV stage sep: Propulsively braking at Earth: Atmospheric entry: Gliding back: Landed: Takeoff: Going straight into TLI: Core sep: Capturing: Correcting inclination: Rendezvousing: Deploying science module: Docked: Escaping: NERV sep: Braking: Atmospheric entry: Gliding: Landed: Takeoff: Orbit: TLI: Core sep: Capturing: NERV sep during rendezvous: Payload deployment: Docked: Firing up the ions: Orbit raised: Shuttle escape burn: Propulsive braking: Deorbiting: I forgot to take a photo of atmospheric entry. Gliding back: Landed: Now, on to Mars! I have an insane tanker planned, with an even more insane lander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 I'm designing the Mars mission now, and I'm wondering, can I merge Mars STS-1 2 and 3 into a single megamission? I'm pretty sure I can complete all the Commander requirements in a single mission, plus more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Entropian said: I'm designing the Mars mission now, and I'm wondering, can I merge Mars STS-1 2 and 3 into a single megamission? I'm pretty sure I can complete all the Commander requirements in a single mission, plus more... Hmm... sounds bonkers. Approved! Just remember that the shuttle from Duna Mars STS-2 and the lander from Mars STS-3 still need to land separately. Deploying the lander from the surface with the shuttle would not meet the specs for Mars STS-3; you need to demonstrate that it can land, return to orbit, and dock by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 I'll review your Moon mission when I get a chance. My internet connection has been flaky lately, and I can't consistently get all your images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 12, 2020 Share Posted September 12, 2020 Great! Also, is it fine to have the support package be an ion freighter-transfer stage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 12, 2020 Author Share Posted September 12, 2020 19 minutes ago, Entropian said: Great! Also, is it fine to have the support package be an ion freighter-transfer stage? Yes, that's fine. You might need a lot of ion engines to get a reasonable burn time though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 13, 2020 Author Share Posted September 13, 2020 @Entropian, congrats on completing the Moon missions! I have a feeling the Mars missions are going to dwarf them, somehow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Entropian Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 So I've spent the past several days designing and redesigning the mission architecture for my Mars mission. Unfortunately, the dV requirements are so high that the only solution that won't destroy my computer is an ultra-low TWR ion freighter that basically does all the work, which, of course, takes away the real point of the Shuttle Challenge. I've been thinking about it, and if I can do 2 or 3 support missions to construct a nuclear shuttle freighter in orbit, I may be able to complete all 3 missions in one. I understand that for each mission I can only do 1 support launch; since I'm doing all 3 missions in one, can this requirement be waived? I totally understand if that's not ok. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 16, 2020 Author Share Posted September 16, 2020 You can do up to 3 support launches. And maybe pray to the kraken. I hear it likes to snack on probes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Kermstrong Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Hey, I think I'll try this challenge, but I want to know: can I use any mod that adds shuttle parts? honestly I find the stock ones kinda bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 hours ago, Neil Kermstrong said: Hey, I think I'll try this challenge, but I want to know: can I use any mod that adds shuttle parts? honestly I find the stock ones kinda bad Welcome! Most mods are fine - the general rule is that part performance should be similar to stock, especially engines and RCS thrusters. Please see the rules in the first post for more details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingDominoIII Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Duna STS-3 complete! https://imgur.com/gallery/HPjzQGp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikenike Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 Seems fun. I'll get to work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Kermstrong Posted September 25, 2020 Share Posted September 25, 2020 2 hours ago, sturmhauke said: Welcome! Most mods are fine - the general rule is that part performance should be similar to stock, especially engines and RCS thrusters. Please see the rules in the first post for more details. Thanks but nevermind, I think I'll just use stock parts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 25, 2020 Author Share Posted September 25, 2020 8 hours ago, KingDominoIII said: Duna STS-3 complete! https://imgur.com/gallery/HPjzQGp Looks good! With the dV readouts, it may have to do with where your root part is. If it's not on the uppermost stage, the game gets confused sometimes. Anyway, that concludes your Duna missions, congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Kermstrong Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 (edited) I am still trying to do this challenge and man, the reentry is too godamn hard. After a LOT of time I have managed to make a shuttle that doesn't flip at the reentry, but now my issue is the temperature. People say to point the shuttle up but it's impossible, it keeps pointing down Any one knows how to fix this? It also makes landing harder (tested with no reentry temperature cheat) Edited September 26, 2020 by Neil Kermstrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmhauke Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 What does your orbiter look like? You want a ton of pitch authority, which tends to result in either a delta wing or a substantial tail plane (I've used both). The real shuttle also had a body flap under the main engines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Kermstrong Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 8 minutes ago, sturmhauke said: What does your orbiter look like? You want a ton of pitch authority, which tends to result in either a delta wing or a substantial tail plane (I've used both). The real shuttle also had a body flap under the main engines. Kinda looks like the american shuttle, but with a long rocket fuselage and it's wings are a bit larger than the big S delta wing I also am really bad at managing fuel consuming, if I knew how to do it I'd use a medium tank Btw now I am building a MK2 shuttle and it's going pretty well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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