PTNLemay Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I was just performing a simple munar fly-by and I looked up the highest point, to see how low I could go to stay safe. The wiki currently gives 3400 meters. http://wiki.kerbalspaceprogram.com/wiki/MunUnfortunately with the new surface textures this is no longer true... I smacked right into a mountain side at around 3900 meters in altitude. Does anyone happen to know the new highest-point/lowest safe fly-zone? Actually landing on it is hard so I like to compensate for my inability to do so by making really low fly-bys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR4Y Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I always assume that the Mun has mountains 5 Km high, just like Minmus. Or, if you wanna be safe, assume that it has 8 Km high mountains, like Moho has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTNLemay Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 For general safety that's fine, but I'm wondering if anyone knows the actual highest peak, down to... meter precision. Just so I can actually know it's technically safe to fly down to... 3947 meters, say. Even if in practice it's unwise to do so due to potential unforeseen factors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0jam3290 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I can't really say for exact height, but using Mapsat and looking at the mountains on the map will give you a general idea(possibly down to a hundred-meter difference). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric S Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I don't know for sure, but I'm pretty sure I was at about 4200m (not certain, was tabbed out looking at something) when I suddenly discovered that the wiki info was out of date :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTNLemay Posted July 27, 2013 Author Share Posted July 27, 2013 @ EricThat is a good way of testing it if all else fails. Keep flying as low as you can until you hit something, then treat that as your new minimum.Next run I'll got at 4250 meters and see how long the capsule lasts, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneshot Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 lol yeah my 4k+ orbit ended abruptly on the dark side of the Mun about an hour after .21 was out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlternNocturn Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Whilst attempting to rendezvous around the Mun, my periapsis dropped to about 5.2km and I came REALLY close to some mountains, but never hit them. Perhaps the new minimum is somewhere between 4.5 and 5km? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shania_L Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 I would say based on the two places I have managed to land so far that you had better stay over 6km.This pic shows me landed at 4.1km altitude and the mountains are still soaring above me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyron42 Posted July 27, 2013 Share Posted July 27, 2013 Right now I'm busy mapping out Kerbin's new elevations, but I plan to mapsat the Mun next; if you haven't gotten an answer before that's done, I'll post what I find in the raw data from mapsat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyron42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 After gathering mapsat data overnight but not yet having full coverage of the Mun, the highest point it shows in the raw data is 7054.9. There might be higher points out there that I didn't get, but I got full coverage of both polar regions and that seems to be the highest points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMS Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Anyone know the highest equatorial point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PDCWolf Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I crashed at around 5km on a equatorial retrograde orbit with about 1º or 2º inclination. It was coming out of a capture maneuver where I lowered my periapsis to 5k (Previous tallest point on the mun was about 4.4k) and came up a little down at 5.2km and 3 seconds later I crashed into a mountain at a ludicrous speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyron42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Searching through my data again for just points with "0.something" as latitude, I get 5873.2 elevation at -129 longitude on the equator. The equator is where my data had the biggest gaps still so there could be something even higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMS Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Aiming for 5.9k.Smoke me a kipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyron42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Ooops... forgot to check for "-0.something" latitudes. 0.27 degrees south of the equator there's a mountain 5967 tall. Hope your orbit's really exact, TMS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeefTenderloin Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Ooops... forgot to check for "-0.something" latitudes. 0.27 degrees south of the equator there's a mountain 5967 tall. Hope your orbit's really exact, TMS!"Eh, should be close eno-BOOM!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMS Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 lol... I think I just found it.I literally just read your post as I was at 5870 (+/-20) on a zero inclined orbit... and then saw this on the horizon... I think the engine may need dusting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khyron42 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) Beautiful handling of it though!Just so you can see what I mean about gaps in my scans, here's my current Mun map: Edited July 28, 2013 by khyron42 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decoherent Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Heh, you must have missed it by what, five meters? The spotlights suddenly appearing out of the darkness was blood-chilling! Also also, watching other people's KSP videos is annoying because I keep trying to move the viewpoint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneshot Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 lol... I think I just found it.I literally just read your post as I was at 5870 (+/-20) on a zero inclined orbit... and then saw this on the horizon...~snip~I think the engine may need dusting Nice! Well done! ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superfluous J Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 I had an orbit set up just over 5km, figuring it was safe. I chose that because it was as close as possible while still being able to accelerate time. I hit a mountain, I know not where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brotoro Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 lol... I think I just found it......I think the engine may need dusting Great little video! Have a cookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PTNLemay Posted July 30, 2013 Author Share Posted July 30, 2013 Damn TMS... nice reflexes.So yeah, I think I'll make ~6000m my new "close shave" point. Also thank khyron for the pretty map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geschosskopf Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 6km is definitely the hard deck. I feel safer at 7km, but unless I'm actually in the process of landing, I try to stay at 10km.Note that high places (or vast areas--there are both) aren't the only worry. There's no such thing as level ground on Mun these days, but you can find small, RELATIVELY flat areas (sloped no more than 15-20^ if you look carefully. Best bet is to land near the terminator so the low-angle sunlight helps show the terrain slopes, don't use powerful spotlights if possible, and be ready to move sideways at the last moment to avoid a microcrater that wasn't visible when you started down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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